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Duke92 · 10-11-2017 01:30AM

Duke92 wrote: »

P and o fr bulls today 18 months old €3:70 today in Waterford 339 average weight

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Good loser · 10-11-2017 02:22AM

Duke92 wrote: »

P and o fr bulls today 18 months old €3:70 today in Waterford 339 average weight

Do they do a flat price for Fr bullocks do you know?

Bass Reeves · 10-11-2017 09:35AM

Good loser wrote: »

Do they do a flat price for Fr bullocks do you know?

Sometimes, there is rumours that at present if you have Friersians that some plants are flat pricing them at the base or at 4-6 cent less. This would be for Friesian under 30 months. Looking at official steer prices in this weeks journal(for week ending 3/11) it is interesting to see that both Jennings in Ballinrobe and Donegal meats both have high O prices and are virtually flat from O+ to O- in Jennings case. dawn In Dawn Ballyhaunis have a high O-/P price which suggests some flat pricing as well there.

Cavanjack · 10-11-2017 10:32AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Sometimes, there is rumours that at present if you have Friersians that some plants are flat pricing them at the base or at 4-6 cent less. This would be for Friesian under 30 months. Looking at official steer prices in this weeks journal(for week ending 3/11) it is interesting to see that both Jennings in Ballinrobe and Donegal meats both have high O prices and are virtually flat from O+ to O- in Jennings case. dawn In Dawn Ballyhaunis have a high O-/P price which suggests some flat pricing as well there.

I don't pass much remarks of them tables in the back of the journal. It doesn't take into account aa, hf or quality bonus. Often killed steers for example, rang a few plants and went with the highest quote, the next week my plant could be bottom of the list.
Next week all will be either 3.75 or 3.80 for steers yet the plants killimg most u30 month or paying the most bonuses will be higher up. What I'm saying is the charts don't say who is paying the highest base price (I understand what You mean though).

Bass Reeves · 10-11-2017 11:26AM

Cavanjack wrote: »

I don't pass much remarks of them tables in the back of the journal. It doesn't take into account aa, hf or quality bonus. Often killed steers for example, rang a few plants and went with the highest quote, the next week my plant could be bottom of the list.
Next week all will be either 3.75 or 3.80 for steers yet the plants killimg most u30 month or paying the most bonuses will be higher up. What I'm saying is the charts don't say who is paying the highest base price (I understand what You mean though).

No and with certain cattle it is not about the base price at time. But if you look closely at it some plants you will see good O+/O= only and a sharp drop to O- wich signals base price only HE/AA bonus are pulling the average up towards the base. But if you see O- prices that are within a cent or two of O+/O= then it it is a signal that flat pricing is taking place.

charolais0153 · 10-11-2017 05:15PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Sometimes, there is rumours that at present if you have Friersians that some plants are flat pricing them at the base or at 4-6 cent less. This would be for Friesian under 30 months. Looking at official steer prices in this weeks journal(for week ending 3/11) it is interesting to see that both Jennings in Ballinrobe and Donegal meats both have high O prices and are virtually flat from O+ to O- in Jennings case. dawn In Dawn Ballyhaunis have a high O-/P price which suggests some flat pricing as well there.

Ballyhaunis always getting artics of friesians and dairy crosses from up the country

poor farmer · 10-11-2017 09:02PM

good weight for 18 months

Base price · 10-11-2017 09:21PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Ballyhaunis always getting artics of friesians and dairy crosses from up the country

Ballyhaunis since UMP/Halal days always catered for FR's.

kk.man · 10-11-2017 11:07PM

poor farmer wrote: »

good weight for 18 months

There bulls, the would want to be that weight.

Snowfire · 10-11-2017 11:53PM

If bullock at base € 3.75 grades R+ 2- what should it's price be...?

tanko · 10-11-2017 11:58PM

Snowfire wrote: »

If bullock at base € 3.75 grades R+ 2- what should it's price be...?

A bullock needs to be 2+ to 4= for fat to get on the grid.

Snowfire · 11-11-2017 12:07AM

tanko wrote: »

A bullock needs to be 2+ to 4= for fat to get on the grid.

But would a deduction of 30 cent sound right..?

epfff · 11-11-2017 12:10AM

Snowfire wrote: »

If bullock at base € 3.75 grades R+ 2- what should it's price be...?

Your at he mercy of procesor
Have seen better and worse than 30c

Bass Reeves · 11-11-2017 12:11AM

Snowfire wrote: »

If bullock at base € 3.75 grades R+ 2- what should it's price be...?

It up to the factory. An R+ 2- should not have gone to the factory. As no QA it would be at less than 3.7/kg. How much did you get.

Snowfire · 11-11-2017 12:18AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

It up to the factory. An R+ 2- should not have gone to the factory. As no QA it would be at less than 3.7/kg. How much did you get.

€3.45,I know shouldn't have let him off also had a U- 2= that just got base price 3.75

tanko · 11-11-2017 12:20AM

The mart was the place for them.

Bass Reeves · 11-11-2017 12:38AM

Snowfire wrote: »

€3.45,I know shouldn't have let him off also had a U- 2= that just got base price 3.75

3.45 was a bit harsh I have said 3.50/kg. However very lean carcasses are hard to move. The R should have gone to the Mart. The U great bullock more than likely made as much in the factory as in the mart.

Cavanjack · 11-11-2017 10:56AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

3.45 was a bit harsh I have said 3.50/kg. However very lean carcasses are hard to move. The R should have gone to the Mart. The U great bullock more than likely made as much in the factory as in the mart.

Chanced a lad a few months ago that was coming up to 30 months. Knew he was a bit lean but had feeding in him and there was a load going. He graded u- 2= Which falls out of the spec for quality payment. The base price was €3.85 and got 3.91 for him. He was 440kg.
He was a mighty animal and was only getting a bit of meal for 6 weeks. In hindsight I should have fed him on another month and forget about the 12 cent.

Bass Reeves · 11-11-2017 01:48PM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Chanced a lad a few months ago that was coming up to 30 months. Knew he was a bit lean but had feeding in him and there was a load going. He graded u- 2= Which falls out of the spec for quality payment. The base price was €3.85 and got 3.91 for him. He was 440kg.
He was a mighty animal and was only getting a bit of meal for 6 weeks. In hindsight I should have fed him on another month and forget about the 12 cent.

Maybe maybe not if he had scraped into a 2+ you be 18c/kg better off. If the base price dropped you were at nothing. I tend to start feeding anything hitting 30 month 10 weeks before if they are good enough. Nothing wrong with feeding 3kgs to a 600+ kg bullock in April or May to make sure he is out sub 30 months. He still hit 1700 euro you would never see that kind of money in a mart for an 800kg bullock.

Willfarman · 11-11-2017 03:49PM

It's at the mercy of the procurement manager. If you get the base price you'd be doing ok. It's a big problem with blonde,parathanaise, some bb and limousine cattle. Taking a lot of meal and driving them into big carcass weights before they are fit.

Pidae.m · 11-11-2017 10:31PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Maybe maybe not if he had scraped into a 2+ you be 18c/kg better off. If the base price dropped you were at nothing. I tend to start feeding anything hitting 30 month 10 weeks before if they are good enough. Nothing wrong with feeding 3kgs to a 600+ kg bullock in April or May to make sure he is out sub 30 months. He still hit 1700 euro you would never see that kind of money in a mart for an 800kg bullock.

830kg made €1940 in Ennis thurs

kk.man · 11-11-2017 10:43PM

There's always a story behind those 'who has the biggest manhood' types...

Willfarman · 12-11-2017 12:23AM

Good u grade mart weight bullock (empty belly) is worth that to kill.

kk.man · 12-11-2017 12:28AM

Willfarman wrote: »

Good u grade mart weight bullock (empty belly) is worth that to kill.

I'd say 430 kgs dead weight would be generous and would ya get 4.05 for a u atm?....he be under serious pressure to make that money in the factory.

kk.man · 12-11-2017 12:31AM

Even an E grade at 4.20 ...sorry figures just don't add up and I'm not even going to mention deductions at both locations.

Willfarman · 12-11-2017 12:40AM

If bullock was a very good sort, and after standing all day belly was empty I'd be assuming a kill out of 58%. (55 or 56 full belly) be a 485 kg carcass. And I'm being conservative!

kk.man · 12-11-2017 12:45AM

Willfarman wrote: »

If bullock was a very good sort, and after standing all day belly was empty I'd be assuming a kill out of 58%. (55 or 56 full belly) be a 485 kg carcass. And I'm being conservative!

Ok if you say so but its a gamble...but what price would a u or e come into?..and the fat score would need to be band on?

Willfarman · 12-11-2017 12:52AM

4.00 to 4.10 off top of my head. Not saying bullock was sold cheap, just maybe not as mad as it would appear to a layman.

gerryirl · 12-11-2017 01:00AM

I killed a bullock a 2 months ago .. He killed out 480kg. Cant remember rightly but I think he was around 820/830 kgs alive. Was a U+ 3+ ended up getting €1973 for him so that mart price of €1940 mightn't have been so bad

charolais0153 · 12-11-2017 09:34AM

kk.man wrote: »

I'd say 430 kgs dead weight would be generous and would ya get 4.05 for a u atm?....he be under serious pressure to make that money in the factory.

Gotten 430kgs dw from a 730 kg liveweight young bull before

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