Xbox One/360 Dashboard & Update Discussion (Retail/Beta/Preview Versions)

02-10-2017 11:22PM

Dash looks like it's very close to being pushed to all. Latest update was a big improvement in how the home screen is presented and makes wallpaper worth having again.

MJohnston · 02-10-2017 11:26PM

It hasn't made it to Insider Ring 3 yet, which I'd expect it to do before going out to everyone.

02-10-2017 11:38PM

MJohnston wrote: »

It hasn't made it to Insider Ring 3 yet, which I'd expect it to do before going out to everyone.

Buy close I mean weeks not tomorrow

marcbrophy · 03-10-2017 10:06AM

Is the dash meant to be public for the Nov 7th One X launch?

It's still a good bit buggy in beta ring for me anyway. I'd say the dev teams are in meltdown trying to get this done

CatInABox · 03-10-2017 10:18AM

marcbrophy wrote: »

Is the dash meant to be public for the Nov 7th One X launch?

It's still a good bit buggy in beta ring for me anyway. I'd say the dev teams are in meltdown trying to get this done

It's named 1710, so it's meant to be out this month, probably sometime around the 17th to coincide with the release of the "Fall Creators update" (Such an unbelievably stupid name) for Windows 10.

They've a new alpha release that was due yesterday/today, but got delayed due to a bug. Most likely, they'll get this one out, and then polish it over the space of a week and a half, which is what happens with all of their updates so far. I've actually been impressed with how they manage to pull it together by the release date, several times now I've doubted that a release would make it, and then they release it in a solid state a week or so later.

marcbrophy · 03-10-2017 01:38PM

CatInABox wrote: »

It's named 1710, so it's meant to be out this month, probably sometime around the 17th to coincide with the release of the "Fall Creators update" (Such an unbelievably stupid name) for Windows 10.

They've a new alpha release that was due yesterday/today, but got delayed due to a bug. Most likely, they'll get this one out, and then polish it over the space of a week and a half, which is what happens with all of their updates so far. I've actually been impressed with how they manage to pull it together by the release date, several times now I've doubted that a release would make it, and then they release it in a solid state a week or so later.

Oh they always get it done alright, they are a credit!
I just wonder how many double or triple shifts some of them end up doing close to release day, to get it to market on time

Gamer Bhoy 89 · 03-10-2017 11:15PM

I think the latest preview build is butchering one of my games (keeps crashing to dashboard without warning). I was always fine with frequent updates and genuinely testing out each little feature it added and giving feedback - it's part of the fun. But I never had a game be unstable and I hope it is the firmware and not my Xbox. My brother, who isn't in the program, played the same game and it never crashed on him.

I think I might take a break from the preview as I'm really trying to enjoy this game.

(I'm not saying what the game is because it's a pretty notorious game I feel guilty for enjoying :P )

04-10-2017 12:17AM

Xbox off voice command now turns it off without confirmation , great if you have a 3 year old who knows this ... just great.

runawaybishop · 04-10-2017 10:38AM

CatInABox wrote: »

It's named 1710, so it's meant to be out this month, probably sometime around the 17th to coincide with the release of the "Fall Creators update" (Such an unbelievably stupid name) for Windows 10.

They've a new alpha release that was due yesterday/today, but got delayed due to a bug. Most likely, they'll get this one out, and then polish it over the space of a week and a half, which is what happens with all of their updates so far. I've actually been impressed with how they manage to pull it together by the release date, several times now I've doubted that a release would make it, and then they release it in a solid state a week or so later.

1710 is done and will be the update the X is launched with. The alpha ring is some way behind the latest builds.

CatInABox · 27-10-2017 09:47PM

First insider build for 1711 is out tonight/tomorrow, with some nice quality of life stuff

• For Xbox Insiders in the Alpha ring, the Microsoft Store now enables gifting of select digital Xbox One games, “durable” downloadable content (DLC) (map packs, weapon skins, etc.), Xbox Live Gold, and Xbox Game Pass—right from your console! Just choose a game within the Store, select “Buy as Gift,” and send it to your friends or family members by picking their Gamertag or entering their email address.
NOTE: Digital gifting will be enabled for Preview Alpha @ 1:00PM PDT on 10/27 and is not tied to the system update. Please see Digital Gifting below for more information.
• In addition to games and friends, you will soon be able to add club blocks to Home. We’re also making it easier to explore additional types of blocks at the bottom of Home by adding a new section under “Add More.”
• We’re improving the setup experience to make it better for both new users and upgraders. The settings from your home console will now be saved to the cloud, just like your game saves. Whenever you set up a new console, you will have the option of applying these settings during the sign-in process.
• Additionally, your console will now back up even more settings, including your TV & OneGuide settings. This expansion will provide a simple experience when you transition from one console to another using the settings backup to your external games and apps storage device.
• The Xbox app for iOS and Android will now enable you to finish setting up your new Xbox One X console while it’s downloading the day one update. Additionally, we’ve also improved the process for enabling 4K output right out of the box.
• Xbox’s new notifications provide an at-a-glance status of what activities you can immediately step into after you’ve had to step out for a moment. We’re adding additional notifications types when your system goes idle, including LFG posts, broadcasts, and Achievements.
• We’re adding miniature Game Hubs for your most recently used games in the Guide. That way, you can access the great content on a game hub without having to leave the action.
• Adults who have enabled the "Buy & download" online safety setting will now have an easier time purchasing games thanks to a passkey/password challenge directly in the Xbox dashboard.
• We’ve heard your feedback! Games with no unlocked achievements can now be hidden from the personal and public view of your profile.
These features will roll out to Xbox Insiders over the next few weeks. Insiders can check the release notes within the Xbox Insider Hub for more details, or navigate to the Xbox Insider forums at forums.xbox.com.

Game gifting and removing games with 0G are nice.

pcadhain · 27-10-2017 09:56PM

Some really nice new features coming to insiders including:

The ability to gift games and DLC to friends

Store more setup settings to the cloud e.g. home console, TV settings etc

More types of idle notifications and game hubs in the guide

Hiding games with no completed achievements from your profile

Edit: When I started writing this I forgot that CatiInABox is so much faster than me.

MiskyBoyy · 27-10-2017 10:08PM

pcadhain wrote: »

Some really nice new features coming to insiders including:

Edit: When I started writing this I forgot that CatiInABox is so much faster than me.

Oh dear summer child, how I feel your pain!

Mickeroo · 27-10-2017 10:23PM

Any word on how gifting will work?

wotzgoingon · 27-10-2017 10:26PM

That is a odd one alright. Unless they move to buying keys like steam. As I doubt they will let you buy a game and then when you are finished playing gift it to your friend.

pcadhain · 27-10-2017 10:35PM

Mickeroo wrote: »

Any word on how gifting will work?

Here's a gif that speeds through the process. Looks simple and great for me to send some lazy Christmas presents.

CatInABox · 27-10-2017 10:43PM

There's some odd restrictions on the gifting/codes as well, particularly around discounted games, and they're also not region free

There are a handful of rules and restrictions currently in place for digital gifting:

• Users can gift select Xbox One games, downloadable content (DLC), and subscriptions (Xbox Live Gold and Xbox Game Pass)
• Gifting of “durable” game DLC (map packs, weapon skins, etc.) is supported, but the gifting of “consumable” game DLC (virtual currency, etc.) is not supported.
• When a particular item is discounted, users are allowed to send two (2) gifts of that item every fourteen (14) days. The 14-day clock starts once the first copy is purchased at discount. Once the limit for that item is reached, users will not be able to purchase that item again as a gift until the 14-day period is over, even if the product is no longer discounted.
• Users are allowed to send ten (10) total gifts at discount every 14 days. There are no limits on items that are at full price.
• Not all Xbox One games are available for gifting, including some XPA titles.
• Xbox 360 backward compatible games and consumable DLC (such as virtual currency) are not eligible for gifting.
• Pre-ordered games and pre-ordered durable DLC are not eligible for gifting.
• Digital codes can only be redeemed in the country/region where they were purchased.
• Refunds for digital gifts are not supported, nor can entitlements for content or subscriptions be transferred once redeemed.
• Please see the gifting terms and conditions as well as the Microsoft Store terms and conditions for a full list of policies.

MJohnston · 27-10-2017 11:05PM

CatInABox wrote: »

There's some odd restrictions on the gifting/codes as well, particularly around discounted games, and they're also not region free

The region free thing is largely unimportant, you can just switch your console to a new region in a few minutes, redeem the code and download, then right away switch back to your actual region. The only time it’s difficult is when you need to buy something worth more than the code value, but I’m guessing this won’t ever be an issue with game gifting.

I’ve done the above a few times to buy digital movies on the Xbox that are available in the US but not Ireland yet. Amazon.com handily lets you buy digital USD Xbox gift cards with an Irish card.

runawaybishop · 31-10-2017 12:27PM

MJohnston wrote: »

The region free thing is largely unimportant, you can just switch your console to a new region in a few minutes, redeem the code and download, then right away switch back to your actual region. The only time it’s difficult is when you need to buy something worth more than the code value, but I’m guessing this won’t ever be an issue with game gifting.

I’ve done the above a few times to buy digital movies on the Xbox that are available in the US but not Ireland yet. Amazon.com handily lets you buy digital USD Xbox gift cards with an Irish card.

Won't work. Tied to account region, not xbox region.

Stone Deaf 4evr · 31-10-2017 12:56PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Won't work. Tied to account region, not xbox region.

its often the case that games in brazil are cheaper than here, what happens if you had a friend in brazil who wanted to gift you a game? does he pay Irish prices?

runawaybishop · 31-10-2017 12:59PM

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

its often the case that games in brazil are cheaper than here, what happens if you had a friend in brazil who wanted to gift you a game? does he pay Irish prices?

He pays his local price, but can't gift it to you successfully unless you have a Brazilian account.

CatInABox · 31-10-2017 01:02PM

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

its often the case that games in brazil are cheaper than here, what happens if you had a friend in brazil who wanted to gift you a game? does he pay Irish prices?

I'd say so. I think the publishers are afraid of the sh*tshow that steam keys have become. It's possible that it might go region free if it's direct gifting, i.e. from one gamertag directly to another gamertag, so there's no possibility of the code being sold on a key reseller site.

As it is, most of the restrictions seem designed to combat people from stockpiling codes while they're on sale, and then selling them on when the price goes back up.

MJohnston · 31-10-2017 02:49PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

Won't work. Tied to account region, not xbox region.

You can change that very easily too, just not via the Xbox directly. It isn't how it used to be a few years ago where you had one region change and that was it.

runawaybishop · 31-10-2017 03:00PM

MJohnston wrote: »

You can change that very easily too, just not via the Xbox directly. It isn't how it used to be a few years ago where you had one region change and that was it.

If you have an address and a mobile for verification, then yes its easy.

MJohnston · 31-10-2017 03:17PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

If you have an address and a mobile for verification, then yes its easy.

You don't need a mobile, you do need an address. But nothing gets sent to that address, so it can be any valid address in the region you're wanting.

runawaybishop · 31-10-2017 05:53PM

MJohnston wrote: »

You don't need a mobile, you do need an address. But nothing gets sent to that address, so it can be any valid address in the region you're wanting.

I've been asked for a valid mobile number to verify, as of last week anyway creating a US account.

MJohnston · 31-10-2017 06:37PM

runawaybishop wrote: »

I've been asked for a valid mobile number to verify, as of last week anyway creating a US account.

I wasn't creating an account, I was switching the region of an existing account.

CatInABox · 17-11-2017 09:40PM

https://twitter.com/majornelson/status/931622186523095040

More improvements to the store, nice to see.

Of course, it'd be more welcome if the store wasn't riddled with reviews like: "Haven't bought it yet, but 5/5!!!! OMG!!!!"

pcadhain · 17-11-2017 09:52PM

I don't think I've ever seen Xbox be so active in improving the console experience as they are lately. It's not that long ago that they'd only update twice a year, in a spring and fall update. Now it's a constant evolution. I'm not part of the insider program, but 5/5!!!! OMG!!!!

marcbrophy · 28-11-2017 03:22PM

Howdy!

Is there a place that shows requested upcoming features?
I seem to remember a blog or something that people voted on ideas!

I'm mad for a wishlist in the store. But I don't see them ever putting one in.

runawaybishop · 28-11-2017 03:26PM

marcbrophy wrote: »

Howdy!

Is there a place that shows requested upcoming features?
I seem to remember a blog or something that people voted on ideas!

I'm mad for a wishlist in the store. But I don't see them ever putting one in.

https://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/363186--new-ideas

Xbox One/360 Dashboard & Update Discussion (Retail/Beta/Preview Versions)

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