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Sexual Assault ?

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  • #92
    server down
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭server down


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    Your defecting the argument, the thread is "sexual assault" do I report her or not?

    Her only argument was about work.


  • #93
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    server down wrote: »
    Her only argument was about work.

    #meetoo it was a work do


  • #94
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    lazybones32 wrote: »
    On breakingnews.ie last wednesday (9d ago), they had an article on sexual harrassment in the workplace. The solicitor who was giving the interview said that if telling a sex-related joke makes a person uncomfortable, then that is entering the realm of sexual harrassment.
    lazybones32 wrote: »
    So sexual harrassment is defined by the individual interpretation?
    A woman, feeling body-confident, attractive and feeling good about herself and life hears a sex joke and finds it funny.
    Same woman on a bad day hears the same joke but this time it is harrassment.

    We can make laws that are based on feelings that change and personal taste.
    ...And Justice wrote: »
    #meetoo it was a work do

    Perhaps you'd best direct your query to Lazybones 32 as he was the person who brought up workplaces. Which does not relate in any way to the topic in the original post.


  • #95
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Its exactly what you said.



    Those are your words and they are unambiguous.

    How about we do this properly?
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »
    While a woman is not responsible for what happens to her while she is drunk, she is responsible for how much she has to drink.

    The bit in bold is a non-consentual act, I'm pretty sure and one that will land most people in trouble.

    Saying that someone is responsible is pretty much the exact opposite of absolving them.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #96
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    anewme wrote: »
    I am sorry but I am not sure where this is related to the original topic.

    I am the only woman on a team with 15 men. I would deem it unacceptable for people to be cracking sexual jokes. Its unprofessional. It would make me uncomfortable. . These ppl are not my friends, they are work colleagues.

    The body confident or not confident comment is a load of crap.

    Sexual comments in a workplace are a no no.

    Keep it professional.

    This is a discussion site, not a thesis or dissertation that must stick rigidly to the topic. If you think my posts are derailing the thread, report them.

    If jokes/conversations about human activity are inappropriate in the workplace, will you not take part any more? You are there in a professional capacity...


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  • #97
    lazybones32
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    anewme wrote: »
    Perhaps you'd best direct your query to Lazybones 32 as he was the person who brought up workplaces. Which does not relate in any way to the topic in the original post.
    Aww good girl! It's MY fault that you responded to my reply to 2 different users (obviously having missed my response to the OP).


  • #98
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    Your defecting the argument, the thread is "sexual assault" do I report her or not?
    lazybones32 wrote: »
    This is a discussion site, not a thesis or dissertation that must stick rigidly to the topic. If you think my posts are derailing the thread, report them.

    If jokes/conversations about human activity are inappropriate in the workplace, will you not take part any more? You are there in a professional capacity...

    Perhaps direct your response also to ...And Justice.

    I would also suggest you read your HR handbook or ask for guidance if you are unsure of what is acceptable conduct in your workplace.


  • #99
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    arayess wrote: »
    i'#d like to pose a question.

    i can fully understand how you can be too drunk to consent to sex as you can be a passive and unconscious etc..and taken advantage of. .

    but surely giving a bj would require you to take the active role...to me the notion of not consenting due to drunkenness would impossible.

    any takers?

    Men don't have to be awake to have an erection or ejaculate. Stimulating the penis will increase bloodflow, which causes an erection. Morning boners are common and wet dreams happen when men don't have sex or masturbate.

    In TGC, there is an article posted about a number of men who were raped by women.


  • #100
    368100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭368100


    anewme wrote: »
    What on earth has this got to do with sexual comments in the workplace?

    That's not the topic of the thread


  • #101
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    anewme wrote: »
    Perhaps direct your response also to ...And Justice.

    I would also suggest you read your HR handbook or ask for guidance if you are unsure of what is acceptable conduct in your workplace.

    I agree, is she a rapist or not? Can I get a straight answer?


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  • #102
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    368100 wrote: »
    That's not the topic of the thread

    My point exactly.

    I was wondering why Lazybones brought it into it.


  • #103
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    I agree, is she a rapist or not? Can I get a straight answer?

    I'm sure lazybones can answer that themselves.


  • #104
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    anewme wrote: »
    Perhaps direct your response also to ...And Justice.

    I would also suggest you read your HR handbook or ask for guidance if you are unsure of what is acceptable conduct in your workplace.
    No. You quoted 2 of my replies (to different people and accused me of derailing) and then you name me as being the one who should answer for your posts. And now you are taking the thread off topic by referring people to HR...but that is my fault because you are under compulsion to reply to me?
    It's always someone else's fault...


  • #105
    368100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭368100


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    I agree, is she a rapist or not? Can I get a straight answer?

    You say she tried....so it would be attempted if anything. Swap the sexes. ....if a fella drunkly tried to rip his sister in laws jeans off to finger her what would he be called? Same rules should apply.


  • #106
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    anewme wrote: »
    My point exactly.

    I was wondering why Lazybones brought it into it.
    I've already answered you on why.


  • #107
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    lazybones32 wrote: »
    No. You quoted 2 of my replies (to different people and accused me of derailing) and then you name me as being the one who should answer for your posts. And now you are taking the thread off topic by referring people to HR...but that is my fault because you are under compulsion to reply to me?
    It's always someone else's fault...

    But it was her fault, she tried and failed to get me into bed, she ripped the jeans off me, is she a rapist? Or should I be glad my wife was onto her and knew what her her sister was like? Is she a rapist or is it just a laugh?.....


  • #108
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    368100 wrote: »
    You say she tried....so it would be attempted if anything. Swap the sexes. ....if a fella drunkly tried to rip his sister in laws jeans off to finger her what would he be called? Same rules should apply.

    He'd be called a rapist #metoo


  • #109
    jcon1913
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭jcon1913


    NinetyTwoTeam wrote: »
    I

    But really you have two mates where the women overpowered them, forced them to become erect, knocked the condom out of their hand, forced themselves onto their junk, and held them down while they rode them until they orgasmed?

    If they were really that wasted the soldier would no be able to salute. And if they were able to do that and also achieve orgasm, I don't buy the fact that they were unwilling or unwitting participants.
    .

    Comment on the first paragraph - youve not been inan Irish pub / night club

    Comment on second paragraph - the soldier would not be able to salute - laughed? I nearly wet myself.... Hahaha


  • #110
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    lazybones32 wrote: »
    I've already answered you on why.

    You commented that whether sexual comments in the workplace are acceptable or not depend on whether or not a woman was feeling 'body confident'

    I've not seen the term 'body confident' referenced in any Company Handbook or HR legislation or laws relation to dignity at work.

    Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us.


  • #111
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    But it was her fault, she tried and failed to get me into bed, she ripped the jeans off me, is she a rapist? Or should I be glad my wife was onto her and knew what her her sister was like? Is she a rapist or is it just a laugh?.....

    What did your wife say to her?


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  • #112
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    anewme wrote: »
    What did your wife say to her?

    None of your business. That's not the question I asked.


  • #113
    368100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭368100


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    He'd be called a rapist #metoo

    When I was 16 I started working in a local music venue that was very popular for hen parties. I'd be collecting glasses hands full and regularly have my trousers opened and hands stuck down etc. So I guess #metoo


  • #114
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    Or should I be glad my wife was onto her and knew what her her sister was like?
    anewme wrote: »
    What did your wife say to her?
    ...And Justice wrote: »
    None of your business. That's not the question I asked.


    Bit hard to answer a question about how your wife knows what her sister is like and is onto her when you don't want to share how she feels about her.


  • #115
    lazybones32
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    anewme wrote: »
    You commented that whether sexual comments in the workplace are acceptable or not depend on whether or not a woman was feeling 'body confident'

    I've not seen the term 'body confident' referenced in any Company Handbook or HR legislation or laws relation to dignity at work.

    Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us.


    Am glad i've made an impression on you but i'll be needing payment before enlightening or educating anyone.


  • #116
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    368100 wrote: »
    When I was 16 I started working in a local music venue that was very popular for hen parties. I'd be collecting glasses hands full and regularly have my trousers opened and hands stuck down etc. So I guess #metoo

    Well believe it.

    It happens to both young men and women.

    I worked as a "lounge girl" back in the day and the treatment of the lads and girls was horrific.

    It was accepted as a peril of the job. Terrible.


  • #117
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    anewme wrote: »
    You commented that whether sexual comments in the workplace are acceptable or not depend on whether or not a woman was feeling 'body confident'

    I've not seen the term 'body confident' referenced in any Company Handbook or HR legislation or laws relation to dignity at work.

    Perhaps you'd care to enlighten us.
    lazybones32 wrote: »
    Am glad i've made an impression on you but i'll be needing payment before enlightening or educating anyone.

    It's fine. We all realise you are spoofing


  • #118
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    anewme wrote: »
    Bit hard to answer a question about how your wife knows what her sister is like and is onto her when you don't want to share how she feels about her.

    Not really, they don't talk that much anymore... do I report her for sexual assault, c'mon 3 pages ? Well...?


  • #119
    anewme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    Not really, they don't talk that much anymore... do I report her for sexual assault, c'mon 3 pages ? Well...?

    The only person who can answer the question is yourself. No one else is privy to your life.

    You do what you need to do and what you feel is right to do and what you feel comfortable with.

    That applies to anyone, in any circumstances, in any situation.


  • #120
    ...And Justice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭...And Justice


    anewme wrote: »
    The only person who can answer the question is yourself. No one else is privy to your life.

    You do what you need to do and what you feel is right to do and what you feel comfortable with.

    That applies to anyone, in any circumstances, in any situation.

    Mtly point is all you liberal lefties have been "sexually assaulted" under new rules, I must admit I sexually assault me wife a few times a week, she wants it. But under fcuking feminist terms.. I've raped her....


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  • #121
    368100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭368100


    ...And Justice wrote: »
    Mtly point is all you liberal lefties have been "sexually assaulted" under new rules, I must admit I sexually assault me wife a few times a week, she wants it. But under fcuking feminist terms.. I've raped her....

    What feminist terms say that if it's consentual it's rape?

    Simple enough to me, if consent is given, it's not rape.


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