All-new Peugeot 5008 SUV

deathtocaptcha wrote: »

Why is this the case? Are there any plans to bring it to 1.2 version?

I don't know, but is a real pity. I would get the 1.2 instead of the 1.6 if it was available.

Ad 1.5 130 HDI vs 1.6 120 HDI... They both have exactly same top torque (and same power at that point) of 300 Nm at 1750 rpm, with the 1.5 having a bit more of it at 3750 rpm - which results with a bit more power.

Surprisingly, despite higher power at 3750 rpm, the 1.5 has longer 80-120 overtaking times. It must be down to marginally longer gearbox ratio, which allows it to get better economy...

http://media.peugeot.fr/file/69/2/prix-nouveau-suv-5008.162692.pdf#_ga=2.247210692.1507568663.1508507107-603236748.1508507107

grogi wrote: »

Ad 1.5 130 HDI vs 1.6 120 HDI... They both have exactly same top torque (and same power at that point) of 300 Nm at 1750 rpm, with the 1.5 having a bit more of it at 3750 rpm - which results with a bit more power.

Surprisingly, despite higher power at 3750 rpm, the 1.5 has longer 80-120 overtaking times. It must be down to marginally longer gearbox ratio, which allows it to get better economy...

http://media.peugeot.fr/file/69/2/prix-nouveau-suv-5008.162692.pdf#_ga=2.247210692.1507568663.1508507107-603236748.1508507107

Grogi, what do you think of the 1.6 Petrol. I would have taken the 1.2 but it doesn't have an automatic and this is something that is a requirement with my OH, shes driven auto now for 5+ years and I couldn't see here ever going back to manual. We also do a lot of short journeys around town, roughly we average about 12KM per year.

To put it into perspective we have a 520 BMW from new in 2013 with 56k KM on the clock to date.

grogi wrote: »

It depends for how long you want the car. With such little mileage you should be perfectly fine for at least 5 years. What's more, the independent workshops know the issues very well and have a lot of experience.

I once talked to a Mini specialist here, he was doing the chains in them (1.6 THP) for not much more than regular timing belt would set you off. So it really isn't that bad as I portrait it. The 1.6 is a devil and if you are into driving, the bit of risk might be worth it.

Thanks man. I want to hold onto this car for AT LEAST 5 years. Thinking 7-10.

Would you go near a diesel with my mileage

grogi wrote: »

Personally I would have no issue with a diesel, even with that mileage. I don't do much mileage either, but with schools in walking distance and having another banger to park at Aldis, my miles are 95% outside of town made on family trips...

Nevertheless there is a nationwide anty-diesel hysteria starting. You simply might not want to be part of it...

The disadvantages of diesel are that you need to do a fairly regular half hour on the motorway to clear out that particulate filter. And there's also the real reason why diesel has become unpopular - nitrous oxide. It's highly toxic and it's your own family who'll be exposed to your emissions first.

For me, if the usage is 90% short local runs, the 1.2 petrol is a Godsend. The torque of a diesel is great for overtaking on long journeys, and the efficiency is there on long trips, but if your not doing them, then you gain all the disadvantages of diesel without the benefits.

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Was talking to someone the other day who stated the dealer said residual value of the asset would be 12-14k after 3 years.

If that's the case I couldn't see myself buying one.

a) You said previously you are going to keep it for 5 or more years. Why would you care about residuals after 3?!

b) I guess that might have been GMFV, not the actual residual. Half information.

c) 14k from 35k car that is an SUV? Seriously!?

grogi wrote: »

a) You said previously you are going to keep it for 5 or more years. Why would you care about residuals after 3?!

b) I guess that might have been GMFV, not the actual residual. Half information.

c) 14k from 35k car that is an SUV? Seriously!?

40k Car, he was looking at the GT-Line.

Even if its GMFV surely you want a higher value so you have more equity left when coming back. Selling for 14k, with 14k remaining on a PCP deal leaves you with nothing in the bank and you're going again for another 12k deposit.

Surely you want somewhere in the region of 20-25 if you're looking to go again... 14 to cover the cost of the lump sum and equity towards a deposit.

Understandably you want a lower GMFV if you're planning on keeping the car after 3 as there is less to pay back.

I suppose, I just want to understand if he's getting a decent deal, I'm at the stage now where I need to start talking finances to the next garage I go to and I want to make sure I have a good understanding of whats a good deal or a bad deal.

SmithySeller wrote: »

The future value will be determined mostly by the market, not an individual sales person. Ordinarily if going PCP I would have thought that a lower GMFV is a good thing. Usually its a 3rd of the list price.
If the asset is only really worth 12 to 14K after 3 years well then the bottom has fallen out of the market I would think. I would use the very approx. sum of 50% after 3 years, or losing approx. 18% year on year.

If you want to have lower monthly payments well then you need to stump up a larger deposit. None of this will affect the GMFV.
If you have a third of the price up front, I would consider HP anyhow. I think the APR is the same. Just maybe push it over 5 years. Food for thought!

If you know you have the lump sum after 3 years is it not better to lower the cash flow out goings over 3 years (PCP) monthly payments and pay the lump sum.

Does anyone know if services and maintenance are included in PCP. IF you're essentially hiring the car, should it not fall under the garage to maintain the asset?

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Is has ordinary cruises control though? That’ll do me.

Don't underestimate how much better ACC is than CC. Day and night.

SmithySeller wrote: »

Dealer is also trying to talk me out of the 1.6THP, all well and good but you wont sell me a 1.2 in GT-Line (which is what I want). Very frustrating, and this has me looking at the Kodiaq again, although they haven't reverted on the trade-in price yet!!

They are absolutely hopeless.

It seems they have hard goals to reach with diesels and cannot really be bothered with the petrols. It would seem they DON'T want you to buy a car from them, unless it is a diesel... That's where the government efforts to reduce the diesel market share should be focused, not on €0.03 on litre of diesel...

I see there is an alarm included in the options list. Does anyone know if the car comes with a standard alarm or must you option it up? I would imagine if no alarm is fitted this would be frowned upon by Insurance.

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

I've drove it. Loved it. Found the 1.6 diesel quiet and plenty of kick if required.

It's the car I've settled on. Will be putting a deposit down this week.

Wife loved it too.

Congrats. What colour are you going for?

SmithySeller wrote: »

I see there is an alarm included in the options list. Does anyone know if the car comes with a standard alarm or must you option it up? I would imagine if no alarm is fitted this would be frowned upon by Insurance.

Extra (of course). 300 euros. You don't have to preorder it, they can install it on the dealer at a later stage if I understood correctly.

AstraMonti wrote: »

Congrats! I went for the same colour. Did you put any extras? I went with the grip control, the adaptive cruise control and the electric boot. I wanted electric seats too, but the whole thing was getting out of hand after all the previous.

What made you decide for the diesel in the end?

I Would honestly have no need for anything extra in addition to the GT-LINE. I've never used cruise control in my life. We have a 520 which has it and in 5 years we've never used it...lol

The only thing id have considered was leather seats but the cost to upgrade was too much.

One thing I never asked about was an alarm. I assumed it came standard. Do you know if this was the case for yours.

grogi wrote: »

What do you need alarm for? The only thing it can achieve is annoying the neighbours.

Would have thought most cars come with an alarm in this day and age .