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Half a million Pagans in the Country.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?

    Cheers them up in the depths of Winter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    drake70 wrote: »
    Pagan:

    noun

    1. (no longer in technical use) one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
    2. a member of a religious, spiritual, or cultural community based on the worship of nature or the earth; a neopagan.
    3. Disparaging and Offensive.
    a. (in historical contexts) a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim; a heathen.
    b. an irreligious or hedonistic person.
    c. an uncivilised or unenlightened person.

    http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pagan

    Well will you look at that, turns out I'm a pagan:D

    make that half a million and 1 OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,043 ✭✭✭Berserker


    murpho999 wrote: »
    who turned up at a wedding in Galaliee and looked after the booze and food.

    I think you are confusing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.
    murpho999 wrote: »
    Out of that 78%, I'd say an awful just go to churches for funerals, weddings, christenings and christmas.

    Funerals, weddings and christenings, where applicable, are important days in most peoples lives. If people chose to celebrate those events in a church then the church must be of some value to them. It'd be inaccurate not to tick the box in the census in that case.
    Ipso wrote: »
    Or a protestant.

    Not all, some use the term 'non-believer'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock



    Funerals, weddings and christenings, where applicable, are important days in most peoples lives. If people chose to celebrate those events in a church then the church must be of some value to them. It'd be inaccurate not to tick the box in the census in that case.
    Except they dont show up because it's some value. They do it to support family members (who in turn do it to keep other family members quiet).

    If they did it because it was value to them, then they'd do it a bit more often, obviously.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭beefburrito


    Pagan myself,and I think we're cooler and more creative and earthy than those Atheists.

    Fck Atheism and abrahamic religion's they have the same origins....

    Pagan all the way....


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  • Posts: 14,242 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Berserker wrote: »
    I think you are confusing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.
    I think you're mixing up the wedding at Cana (John 2:9) with transubstantiation.

    The wedding at Cana constitutes part of the Christian teaching on the life of Jesus, it isn't simply a Roman Catholic teaching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Pagan/Pantheist was actually listed as a religion. 2,565 people ticked it.
    I didn't have permission to access that page, probably because I'm not a pagan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I prefer the term Heretic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭Sue Pa Key Pa


    Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?


    So they can do the 12 pubs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?

    Probably because the Christians took the festival from the Pagans.

    Also food.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    Hopefully the Muslim rise evens out. We have had enough trouble in this country with the Catholic Church for it to be replaced by other headbangers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,144 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    I think you're mixing up the wedding at Cana (John 2:9) with transubstantiation.

    The wedding at Cana constitutes part of the Christian teaching on the life of Jesus, it isn't simply a Roman Catholic teaching.

    You mean the “myth of the wedding at Cana”.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I got asked my religion when going into hospital. A+E check in. Ended up staying in for 10 days and there was a a random women going around offering communion daily. Not a nun or priest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,797 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Berserker wrote: »
    I think you are confusing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.

    No, as all Catholics are Christians so they believe in the stuff I mentioned

    Funerals, weddings and christenings, where applicable, are important days in most peoples lives. If people chose to celebrate those events in a church then the church must be of some value to them. It'd be inaccurate not to tick the box in the census in that case.

    Many people in Ireland have weddings and funerals in churches due to social conditioning and cultural norms.

    I had two colleagues who married in the last month. Both are not religious, never go to church but insisted on getting married in the church as it's the thing to do and nicer than a registry office.

    It makes zero sense to me. Both couples did their utmost to get out of the compulsary 'Pre Marriage course' as they deemed it ridiculous and a waste of time.
    It's like the church is just really in the venue rental business.
    Couples end up with an impersonal ceremony dominated by the priest talking rubbish and nothing about the couple themselves.

    I was recently at a family wedding and it was a humanist ceremony in the hotel venue. It was much more meaningful, with the ceremony being much more personal and designed by the couple and seemed much more sincere.

    Christenings are also often due to social conditioning or the need to get the child a school place in the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Huexotzingo


    I was born a snake handler and I'll die a snake handler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭TresGats


    Hatchings, matchings and dispatchings are the only reason the vast majority of the population attend mass at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Probably because the Christians took the festival from the Pagans.

    Also food.
    I too celebrate Yule every year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,471 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Every time I've ever gone up to a couple after they got married in a church and said 'It was a beautiful ceremony, very moving' I was lying.

    Church wedding ceremonies are unbelievably dull, you can try and liven it up with a nice song or two, but they're all basically the same.

    On the other hand, I've been to a few non religious weddings in hotels and they've been way way better. Simply because there is a proper sense of humour, the friends of the couple have more space to get involved and do little unexpected things, they can incorporate videos and recordings and the songs and poems they use are chosen because they fit the couple, not because they're acceptable to the church.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,468 ✭✭✭Anesthetize


    Been to any pagan weddings performed by a druid where they jump over a broomstick?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    George Carlin had it right. Worship the Sun. That has been around a hell of lot longer than we have and certainly around a hell of a lot longer than any made-up-religion (i.e. all).

    But forget praying to the sun. There is only one deity you should pray to.

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  • Site Banned Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Not all of us have imaginary friends....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71 ✭✭beerpong


    Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?

    Celebrations on December 25th predate Christians by 2000 years or so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 553 ✭✭✭shaunr68


    Oh PAGANS! I read it as Penguins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,369 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    People
    Against
    Goodness
    And
    Normalcy.

    Now, where's everyone's goat leggings?

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    TresGats wrote: »
    Hatchings, matchings and dispatchings are the only reason the vast majority of the population attend mass at all.
    The big three!

    An american online 'friend' used describe herself as a Catholic CEO (christmas + easter only).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,647 ✭✭✭lazybones32


    shaunr68 wrote: »
    Oh PAGANS! I read it as Penguins.

    P-p-p pick up your coat and get out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Donal55


    People
    Against
    Goodness
    And
    Normalcy.

    Now, where's everyone's goat leggings?

    The Wicker Man treatment for you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?

    Presents and a nice dinner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    shaunr68 wrote: »
    Oh PAGANS! I read it as Penguins.

    Kowalski? Give me options!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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