Half a million Pagans in the Country.

Donal55

Well, the figures are out. Not since before St.Patrick has there been as many non believers in this Fair Isle.

The number of Catholics have fallen to almost 78% of the population and the second largest group are the Pagans.

Muslims on the rise and Prods on the wane.
Changing times according to the latest Census Figures.

Are Am Eye

Once they get enough protein from other sources in their diet, I don't see the harm.

theteal

I'm fairly sure pagans are not "non believers"

VinLieger

Donal55 wrote: »

Well, the figures are out. Not since before St.Patrick has there been as many non believers in this Fair Isle.

The number of Catholics have fallen to almost 78% of the population and the second largest group are the Pagans.

Muslims on the rise and Prods on the wane.
Changing times according to the latest Census Figures.

Pity the figures dont reveal the cultural catholics or the ones who ticked catholic to keep mammy happy

the beer revolu

I seriously doubt that there are many pagans in Ireland.

looksee

Maybe before this thread gets out of hand you should clarify:

what definition of 'pagan' you are using, and

what do you mean by non-believers, non-believers in what?

wakka12

Pagan means religious you know? I think youre confusing it with non religious.

Donal55

looksee wrote: »

Maybe before this thread gets out of hand you should clarify:

what definition of 'pagan' you are using, and

what do you mean by non-believers, non-believers in what?

Christianity thataway.
After hours will do for Pagans.

seamus

It's alright, OP I'll forgive you. A good Catholic Irish education tells you that anyone who doesn't believe in God is a "pagan". I remember.

Donal55

seamus wrote: »

It's alright, OP I'll forgive you. A good Catholic Irish education tells you that anyone who doesn't believe in
God is a "pagan". I remember.

Im actually one of the ProdsðŸ˜႒

dr.fuzzenstein

Don't forget 2000 Jedis:

https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/movies/2017/0418/868382-a-force-in-numbers-2-000-jedi-knights-now-in-ireland/

But sadly I cannot find any information on how many Pastafarians.

Ireland was pagan much longer than it was Christian, Christianity is merely a blow in.

marcbrophy

Paganism =/= Atheism

I worship nathin!

A Little Pony

Good news as far as the actual Irish people is at 94%.

bodice ripper

A Little Pony wrote:

Good news as far as the actual Irish people is at 94%.

In your rush to be a jerk, you read it wrong...

who the fug

Who is going to tell the Hells Angels

A Little Pony

bodice ripper wrote: »

A Little Pony wrote:

Good news as far as the actual Irish people is at 94%.

In your rush to be a jerk, you read it wrong...

Oh I see, it's 84%, my bad. Still good news.

Mickeroo

You keep saying that word, but I don't think it means you think it means.

Widdershins

People who described themselves with that word ''pagan'' or people who chose ''no religion''?

Paganism isn't a religion as such but they do have some beliefs that look like it.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Donal55 wrote: »

Well, the figures are out. Not since before St.Patrick has there been as many non believers in this Fair Isle.

The number of Catholics have fallen to almost 78% of the population and the second largest group are the Pagans.

Muslims on the rise and Prods on the wane.
Changing times according to the latest Census Figures.

You might want to look up the definition of pagan. There's a huge difference between people who don't believe in a God and a follower of a polytheistic religion.


The findings are hardly surprising. At least people will now state that they have no religion rather than enter the religion they were born into.

murpho999

I don't get why the OP is toning his post as if it's regretful that more and more people are not believing in a man in the sky who created the earth in 6 days or his son who turned up at a wedding in Galaliee and looked after the booze and food.

Good to see that more people are choosing "No Religion", shows we're maturing and slowly leaving our enforced religious past behind.

Out of that 78%, I'd say an awful just go to churches for funerals, weddings, christenings and christmas.

valoren

Can they not just include a N/A option for the next census?

drake70

Pagan:

noun

1. (no longer in technical use) one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
2. a member of a religious, spiritual, or cultural community based on the worship of nature or the earth; a neopagan.
3. Disparaging and Offensive.
a. (in historical contexts) a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim; a heathen.
b. an irreligious or hedonistic person.
c. an uncivilised or unenlightened person.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pagan

For Forks Sake

valoren wrote: »

Can they not just include a N/A option for the next census?

There already is a No Religion option. http://www.cso.ie/en/media/csoie/releasespublications/documents/population/2017/Chapter_8_Religion.pdf

Sue Pa Key Pa

Do I have to stick to being a heathen until the next census? Is there a cooling off period if I'm not fully satisfied with my choice?

_Kaiser_

I chose "no religion" anyway, so yay!

Chips Lovell

Pagan/Pantheist was actually listed as a religion. 2,565 people ticked it.

Ipso

seamus wrote: »

It's alright, OP I'll forgive you. A good Catholic Irish education tells you that anyone who doesn't believe in God is a "pagan". I remember.

Or a protestant.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Donal55 wrote: »

Christianity thataway.
After hours will do for Pagans.

How, exactly, are you defining the word "Pagan"?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »

Do I have to stick to being a heathen until the next census? Is there a cooling off period if I'm not fully satisfied with my choice?

I'm so busy down on the farm I won't have much time for the ol' heathen.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?

Widdershins

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?

Cheers them up in the depths of Winter?

sbsquarepants

drake70 wrote: »

Pagan:

noun

1. (no longer in technical use) one of a people or community observing a polytheistic religion, as the ancient Romans and Greeks.
2. a member of a religious, spiritual, or cultural community based on the worship of nature or the earth; a neopagan.
3. Disparaging and Offensive.
a. (in historical contexts) a person who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim; a heathen.
b. an irreligious or hedonistic person.
c. an uncivilised or unenlightened person.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pagan

Well will you look at that, turns out I'm a pagan:D

make that half a million and 1 OP

Berserker

murpho999 wrote: »

who turned up at a wedding in Galaliee and looked after the booze and food.

I think you are confusing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.

murpho999 wrote: »

Out of that 78%, I'd say an awful just go to churches for funerals, weddings, christenings and christmas.

Funerals, weddings and christenings, where applicable, are important days in most peoples lives. If people chose to celebrate those events in a church then the church must be of some value to them. It'd be inaccurate not to tick the box in the census in that case.

Ipso wrote: »

Or a protestant.

Not all, some use the term 'non-believer'.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Funerals, weddings and christenings, where applicable, are important days in most peoples lives. If people chose to celebrate those events in a church then the church must be of some value to them. It'd be inaccurate not to tick the box in the census in that case.

Except they dont show up because it's some value. They do it to support family members (who in turn do it to keep other family members quiet).

If they did it because it was value to them, then they'd do it a bit more often, obviously.

beefburrito

Pagan myself,and I think we're cooler and more creative and earthy than those Atheists.

Fck Atheism and abrahamic religion's they have the same origins....

Pagan all the way....

Berserker

Berserker wrote: »

I think you are confusing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.

I think you're mixing up the wedding at Cana (John 2:9) with transubstantiation.

The wedding at Cana constitutes part of the Christian teaching on the life of Jesus, it isn't simply a Roman Catholic teaching.

diomed

Baron de Charlus wrote: »

Pagan/Pantheist was actually listed as a religion. 2,565 people ticked it.

I didn't have permission to access that page, probably because I'm not a pagan.

suicide_circus

I prefer the term Heretic

Atoms for Peace

I'm more of a heathen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07deilweYQE

Sue Pa Key Pa

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote:

Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?

So they can do the 12 pubs.

Sonics2k

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Why do non Pagans and non Christians celebrate Christmas?

Probably because the Christians took the festival from the Pagans.

Also food.

Creative83

Hopefully the Muslim rise evens out. We have had enough trouble in this country with the Catholic Church for it to be replaced by other headbangers

Zebra3

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I think you're mixing up the wedding at Cana (John 2:9) with transubstantiation.

The wedding at Cana constitutes part of the Christian teaching on the life of Jesus, it isn't simply a Roman Catholic teaching.

You mean the “myth of the wedding at Cana”.

RasTa

I got asked my religion when going into hospital. A+E check in. Ended up staying in for 10 days and there was a a random women going around offering communion daily. Not a nun or priest.

murpho999

Berserker wrote: »

I think you are confusing Roman Catholicism with Christianity.

No, as all Catholics are Christians so they believe in the stuff I mentioned

Funerals, weddings and christenings, where applicable, are important days in most peoples lives. If people chose to celebrate those events in a church then the church must be of some value to them. It'd be inaccurate not to tick the box in the census in that case.

Many people in Ireland have weddings and funerals in churches due to social conditioning and cultural norms.

I had two colleagues who married in the last month. Both are not religious, never go to church but insisted on getting married in the church as it's the thing to do and nicer than a registry office.

It makes zero sense to me. Both couples did their utmost to get out of the compulsary 'Pre Marriage course' as they deemed it ridiculous and a waste of time.
It's like the church is just really in the venue rental business.
Couples end up with an impersonal ceremony dominated by the priest talking rubbish and nothing about the couple themselves.

I was recently at a family wedding and it was a humanist ceremony in the hotel venue. It was much more meaningful, with the ceremony being much more personal and designed by the couple and seemed much more sincere.

Christenings are also often due to social conditioning or the need to get the child a school place in the future.

Huexotzingo

I was born a snake handler and I'll die a snake handler.

TresGats

Hatchings, matchings and dispatchings are the only reason the vast majority of the population attend mass at all.

Anesthetize

Sonics2k wrote: »

Probably because the Christians took the festival from the Pagans.

Also food.

I too celebrate Yule every year.

Akrasia

Every time I've ever gone up to a couple after they got married in a church and said 'It was a beautiful ceremony, very moving' I was lying.

Church wedding ceremonies are unbelievably dull, you can try and liven it up with a nice song or two, but they're all basically the same.

On the other hand, I've been to a few non religious weddings in hotels and they've been way way better. Simply because there is a proper sense of humour, the friends of the couple have more space to get involved and do little unexpected things, they can incorporate videos and recordings and the songs and poems they use are chosen because they fit the couple, not because they're acceptable to the church.

Anesthetize

Been to any pagan weddings performed by a druid where they jump over a broomstick?