Why does America have so many cases of student-teacher relationships?

donegaLroad · 08-10-2017 09:24PM

It happened in Ireland about 27 years ago, and nobody found out

Permabear · 08-10-2017 09:27PM

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wakka12 · 08-10-2017 09:43PM

Wonder why it happens so much. LIke would it not deter you seeing how many teachers have gotten prison sentences or ruined reps or at the very least lost their jobs and couldnt teach again.
Are these 15 year old boys worth it..

Ash.J.Williams · 08-10-2017 09:49PM

nigel_wilson wrote: »

If you read nearly any online comments on a female teacher having sex with a male student from an news article, YouTube, Twitter etc..there is an overwhelming mindset among males of "lucky kid!" or "Damn! Where were these teachers when I was in school!". Meanwhile the reverse (male teacher and female student) would garner a much angry reaction.

I think the attitude among a lot of people is probably what contributes to this indirectly.

i think you'll find most comments say "niiiice" which is a southpark reference of a satirical nature.

Ash.J.Williams · 08-10-2017 09:49PM

mzungu wrote: »

None of this happened before Van Halen released "Hot For Teacher". Blame them.

that drumbeat

08-10-2017 09:53PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Wonder why it happens so much. LIke would it not deter you seeing how many teachers have gotten prison sentences or ruined reps or at the very least lost their jobs and couldnt teach again.

How many instances do you know (without jumping on to google now) of secondary school teachers who have been convicted for having sex with a student?

Apart from assuming this stuff goes on...

Are these 15 year old boys worth it..

Some people like plucking 'cherries'. Never saw the appeal myself, but then, there are plenty of odd sexual fantasies out there that make little sense to me.

Outlaw Pete · 08-10-2017 09:55PM

The reaction from society to such cases certainly doesn't compare to the reaction when the sexes are reversed.... that's for sure.

Seems so damn common these days too, as almost every week there seems to be a new one in the news. One that I was reading about a few weeks ago was where a 30-something female teacher had effectively groomed this 14-year-old boy for a few years and when the authorities eventually find out (which was recently enough) it turned out that she had even had a kid with him. Still before the courts obviously. I'm on my phone so can't link but her name is Laura Lynn Cross.

DellyBelly · 08-10-2017 09:59PM

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

The reaction from society to such cases certainly doesn't compare to the reaction when the sexes are reversed.... that's for sure.

Seems so damn common these days too, as almost every week there seems to be a new one in the news. One that I was reading about a few weeks ago was where a 30-something female teacher had effectively groomed this 14-year-old boy for a few years and when the authorities eventually find out (which was recently enough) it turned out that she had even had a kid with him. Still before the courts obviously. I'm on my phone so can't link but her name is Laura Lynn Cross.

Nice!

wakka12 · 08-10-2017 10:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

How many instances do you know (without jumping on to google now) of secondary school teachers who have been convicted for having sex with a student?

Apart from assuming this stuff goes on...

Some people like plucking 'cherries'. Never saw the appeal myself, but then, there are plenty of odd sexual fantasies out there that make little sense to me.

None personally but I regularly hear stories on news or social media, and I dont know if its same in USA but the majority of irish secondary school teachers seem to be middle aged and or male. In the 3 secondary schools I was in there was always only 3 or 4 attaractive relatively young female teachers out of 30-50 or so staff so if were hearing a good few stories on the news it makes me think its a little bit common I suppose

B.A._Baracus · 08-10-2017 10:02PM

I say it happens more than what we know. After all you only get to hear about things when they get caught.

As for it happening more in America? It could be the way it is or could be that we all live in americana in the western media. Probably live in Asia or somewhere and it happens just as much... just we don't hear alot of news stories from there.

wakka12 · 08-10-2017 10:06PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I say it happens more than what we know. After all you only get to hear about things when they get caught.

As for it happening more in America? It could be the way it is or could be that we all live in americana in the western media. Probably live in Asia or somewhere and it happens just as much... just we don't hear alot of news stories from there.

Id honestly say a large proportion of them are caught as I find it hard to believe many 14-15 year old boys could maintain a relationship with their teacher without their parents realising

the_pen_turner · 08-10-2017 10:07PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Id honestly say a large proportion of them are caught as I find it hard to believe many 14-15 year old boys could maintain a relationship with their teacher without their parents realising

or bragging about it to his friends

B.A._Baracus · 08-10-2017 10:15PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Id honestly say a large proportion of them are caught as I find it hard to believe many 14-15 year old boys could maintain a relationship with their teacher without their parents realising

I get what you're saying but there doesn't have to be a relationship everytime. Teacher can shag a student once then just play the "I made a mistake"card. You can't tell anyone as my life will be ruined etc.

the_pen_turner wrote: »

or bragging about it to his friends

True. Teenagers would brag.

08-10-2017 11:28PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I get what you're saying but there doesn't have to be a relationship everytime. Teacher can shag a student once then just play the "I made a mistake"card. You can't tell anyone as my life will be ruined etc.

Yup. Definitely. However, teens aren't all that rational with their emotions. It takes time for us to learn how to control them, and all it takes is one angry outburst from the student for everything to come out. Especially now in the modern environment where sexual assault receives so much attention. Even the suggestion of it is enough to ruin lives. That gives a student a lot of blackmail power over a teacher...

True. Teenagers would brag.

But would he be believed? I remember plenty of boys saying they'd this girl and that girl, and for the vast majority, it was BS.

You're also assuming that the teachers are picking the extrovert students who have plenty of friends. It's just as likely that teachers are picking the quiet shy students because they're less likely to tell anyone... they're also the students to raise the least attention by visiting the teachers home for extra tuition.

Permabear · 09-10-2017 12:14AM

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Shpudnik · 09-10-2017 12:26AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNIZofPB8ZM

the_pen_turner · 09-10-2017 12:33AM

Permabear wrote: »

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I have to agree. 15 years ago I was in school. the majority of teachers were women. the men were mostly the woodwork , engineering, tech graph subjects and 50/50 in science, art, history
most of the women were in languages, maths, pe, home ec, music,

most men were in their 40s 50s and getting towards retiring

there were a good few teachers still in the 20s and early thirties. there were a few that would catch your eye and still would 15 years later

Pictures Of Lilly · 09-10-2017 01:07AM

steddyeddy wrote: »

It can be quite damaging to the kids involved.

What? I'd have lovely mature woman to ask me for it. I'm damaged either way, may as well get a lay out of it.

Permabear · 09-10-2017 03:27AM

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Pac1Man · 09-10-2017 08:07AM

Flipping it around, I don't know how an adult could fancy a 15 year old!

Pac1Man · 09-10-2017 08:22AM

Ottobre wrote: »

You don't know how an 18 year old could fancy a 15 year old? By the way have you seen some 15 year olds, they could be mistsken for women in their twenties.

I mean a teacher. I don't know any 18 year old teachers.

Teyla Emmagan · 09-10-2017 08:40AM

I know a girl, the friend of a friend and she had a relationship with one of her students. "Relationship". Anyway, they were shagging. This is in Meath. Obviously he told all his buddies. I actually couldn't believe anyone could be so stupid. She was in a "bad place" in her marriage, he was 17 and still in school. A mutual friend told me and I looked her up on "ratemyteacher" and there she is, with a load of slurs. It was just absolutely nuts.

PeterParker957 · 09-10-2017 09:05AM

I used to have a mate who was a teacher and one night another friend of ours was getting the serious come on from this gorgeous woman.

We were late 20s at the time.

Mate was about to go home with her when teacher pal walks in and goes "Stacey what on earth are you playing at ??!"

Turns out "gorgeous pouting Stacey" that my 28 year old pal was going to go home with - was 14.

Easily done chaps.

corner of hells · 09-10-2017 09:06AM

PeterParker957 wrote: »

I used to have a mate who was a teacher and one night another friend of ours was getting the serious come on from this gorgeous woman.

We were late 20s at the time.

Mate was about to go home with her when teacher pal walks in and goes "Stacey what on earth are you playing at ??!"

Turns out "gorgeous pouting Stacey" that my 28 year old pal was going to go home with - was 14.

Easily done chaps.

Where was Stacys mom ?

PeterParker957 · 09-10-2017 09:13AM

corner of hells wrote: »

Where was Stacys mom ?

Dunno but she had it goin on!

Fine song that!!! First name I thought of to protect the guilty!

Pac1Man · 09-10-2017 09:45AM

Teachers know what age their students are! We're not talking about random encounters.

Just to clarify my double standards, I would take the view of 'niiice' if it was a male student but wonder what the hell was wrong with the teacher if the sexes were reversed.

Illogical I know but I'm looking at it from a purely male perspective on either side of the fence.

mikhail · 09-10-2017 10:09AM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I have to agree. 15 years ago I was in school. the majority of teachers were women. the men were mostly the woodwork , engineering, tech graph subjects and 50/50 in science, art, history
most of the women were in languages, maths, pe, home ec, music,

most men were in their 40s 50s and getting towards retiring

there were a good few teachers still in the 20s and early thirties. there were a few that would catch your eye and still would 15 years later

I went to a secondary school run by Christian Brothers. Fifteen years ago, their last brother retired from teaching. At that time, maybe 3/40 of the staff were women. I was in the staff room recently. I'd say 30+ of those staff have retired or moved on, and it's a majority of women now.

The prestige of teaching has probably diminished as the country got wealthier, and there's a taboo about guys who want to work with kids. Given the number of stories in this thread about female teachers who slept with their students, it would seem that that taboo is utterly ridiculous. It's not guys who are dangerous around kids, it's adults.

Will I Am Not · 09-10-2017 10:22AM

Happened at my school. Female teacher and female student. They're still together 20 years later.

nigel_wilson · 09-10-2017 07:33PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

I know a girl, the friend of a friend and she had a relationship with one of her students. "Relationship". Anyway, they were shagging. This is in Meath. Obviously he told all his buddies. I actually couldn't believe anyone could be so stupid. She was in a "bad place" in her marriage, he was 17 and still in school. A mutual friend told me and I looked her up on "ratemyteacher" and there she is, with a load of slurs. It was just absolutely nuts.

Was she good looking?

This posts along with the ones on "Most beautiful women in the world" really bring the painful reality that so much of our life is our control...I'm starting to think that men who are 'loners' are probably destined due to their ****ty genetics, family, etc...

Why hasn't any women ever approached me?

Pac1Man · 09-10-2017 08:24PM

nigel_wilson wrote: »

Was she good looking?

This posts along with the ones on "Most beautiful women in the world" really bring the painful reality that so much of our life is our control...I'm starting to think that men who are 'loners' are probably destined due to their ****ty genetics, family, etc...

Why hasn't any women ever approached me?

I don't think you will find the answers you are looking for here. Set aside the women for a bit.

1. Start by pursuing hobbies or interests you have or might like to try. Not for the purpose of meeting women (forget that remember), but purely for enjoyment. Talk about your interests with others. Just talk. Think they won't be interested? Fuk it. Talk about it anyway. Opening up to people will free them to open up to you.

2. Stop putting people on a pedestal. Have something you want to say? Say it. See what happens. Stop putting filters in the way. As long as you are not being rude, you will be amazed how well people will react to you.

3. This is a tough one. Stop taking things personally. Some people may not react the way you hoped. Laugh it off. Laugh at the s***ty situation that just occurred rather than focusing on your role within it if that makes sense.

All of this helps build genuine confidence. This allows you to act with conviction which gets results and breeds more confidence.

...and remember, always wear sunscreen.

Why does America have so many cases of student-teacher relationships?

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