A world without America?

branie2 · 09-10-2017 12:08AM

I wouldn't have visited New England 2 years ago

eeguy · 09-10-2017 12:19AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

More of a bad influence? Seriously? Think about all the music, films, TV shows, technology, literature etc that the us has contributed to the world. The amount of foreign aid that they pay yearly. You think the rest of the world would be better off without them?

Pretty much most of the advancements in space, energy, robotics, automotive, computers and entertainment come from the US.

Sure if you look at tabloid news and celebrity rags the place looks like hell, but so does everywhere under that light.

Gatling · 09-10-2017 12:26AM

donegaLroad wrote: »

you mean if Russia never existed

Not really ,

We'd back to the famine only calling each other comrade rather than Irish

branie2 · 09-10-2017 12:28AM

And the Church would supressed

Abel Gideon · 09-10-2017 12:32AM

Without America we never would have the Backstreet Boys music

user2011 · 09-10-2017 12:35AM

branie2 wrote: »

I wouldn't have visited New England 2 years ago

No great loss, 11 years later i'm still wishing i didn't visit that place.

gitzy16v · 09-10-2017 01:36AM

Abel Gideon wrote: »

Without America we never would have the Backstreet Boys music

Yeah!!!

BACKSTREETS BACK !!

Kermit.de.frog · 09-10-2017 01:41AM

The human race would be no where near as advanced as it is today if the USA never existed.

It's not just technology, wealth and culture but the Americans have an endeavor, entrepreneurialism and "can do" spirit matched nowhere else in the world.

Hence they are the most powerful country in the world.

gitzy16v · 09-10-2017 01:52AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

The human race would be no where near as advanced as it is today if the USA never existed.

Point taken
Like Homer said "America the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems"

I think!@#

the_syco · 09-10-2017 02:36AM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Anyone ever wonder how we would fare without our big crazy loudmouth mates in the good old US of A?

We'd be all speaking German, and wouldn't think anything of old people and anyone with autism being turned into ashes as part of the final solution?

kona · 09-10-2017 06:00AM

Wouldnt it be great if these anti americans excercised their anti americaness instead of posting on the internet off a ipad or a pc or whatever.
Even better if they left and went to a country more inline with their views, obvious not on ryanair because it would be a bit hypocitical to use boeing aircraft. And they would have to avoid using a ford or gm made taxi to get to the airport. Pain in the ass really. They couldnt even make a fry before they left on a non stick pan.

MarcusP12 · 09-10-2017 06:24AM

gitzy16v wrote: »

Point taken
Like Homer said "America the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems"

I think!@#

Wasn't that beer??!

Heres Johnny · 09-10-2017 06:27AM

Ireland would still be looking for their first win over new Zealand if it wasn't for America. The thoughts of it.....

Zebra3 · 09-10-2017 06:32AM

the_syco wrote: »

We'd be all speaking German, and wouldn't think anything of old people and anyone with autism being turned into ashes as part of the final solution?

The Americans are pretty good are turning people in to ashes too.

KungPao · 09-10-2017 07:45AM

We'd have no Internet and no Dirty Harry.

What would be the point of life?

suicide_circus · 09-10-2017 07:47AM

People always seek to denigrate the biggest and most successful fish in the pond.

AKA: haters gonna hate

branie2 · 09-10-2017 10:58AM

JFK might have been Taoseach

donegaLroad · 09-10-2017 11:23AM

Gatling wrote: »

Not really ,

We'd back to the famine only calling each other comrade rather than Irish

sorry I dont understand.

branie2 · 09-10-2017 11:55AM

On the bright side, we wouldn't have Bible Belt fundamentalists

eeguy · 09-10-2017 12:47PM

the_syco wrote: »

We'd be all speaking German, and wouldn't think anything of old people and anyone with autism being turned into ashes as part of the final solution?

Don't understand this "We'd all be speaking German". Sure the Germans were defeated and they don't all speak English or Russian

Noveight · 09-10-2017 12:48PM

Often wondered what the world/US would be like today had the Confederates won.

HalloweenJack · 09-10-2017 12:50PM

If it weren't the Americans, it'd be somebody else.

donegaLroad · 09-10-2017 01:30PM

eeguy wrote: »

Don't understand this "We'd all be speaking German". Sure the Germans were defeated and they don't all speak English or Russian

It is a popular claim as an alternative ending to WW2, had the Allies not defeated the Germans, the Nazis would have continued their takeover of Europe and as a result, we would all be speaking German.

What is not mentioned though, is that Russia played a very large part in defeating the Germans before the Allies ever moved in. The Russians lost over 8 million soldiers during WW2. By one calculation, for every single American soldier killed fighting the Germans, 80 Soviet soldiers died doing the same.... the Germans suffered 75% of their wartime losses fighting the Russians.

Also, the US sold strategic materials to the Nazis in 1941, in order to help them defeat the Russians. The Nazi's were funded by large American banks, and supported by American companies such as IBM and Standard Oil.

PeterParker957 · 09-10-2017 01:31PM

branie2 wrote: »

On the bright side, we wouldn't have Bible Belt fundamentalists

On the even brighter side there'd be no Taylor Swift and the Kardashians would be Armenian peasant folk!

branie2 · 09-10-2017 01:33PM

Noveight wrote: »

Often wondered what the world/US would be like today had the Confederates won.

There'd still be slavery

09-10-2017 01:42PM

branie2 wrote: »

There'd still be slavery

Probably not. America didn't end slavery. British anti-slavery organisations campaigned for the end of slavery long before the American civil war, and pressure from the British people forced the British government to commit naval assets to siezing slave ships operating within or near British territories.(although some of that would be greed for prize ships and sale of assets taken) Admittedly a large part of it was to eliminate the income made from slavery that nations in the M.East or African nations where the British wished to expand into next, but the point remains that the British actually did more to combat slavery than America. All America did was to remove a major market.

RustyNut · 09-10-2017 01:53PM

rustynutz wrote: »

Id say we'd be all speaking German if America never existed

Yea it would be terrible to have our native language and culture
outlawed and oppressed by foreign colonists.

jmayo · 09-10-2017 02:06PM

A Little Pony wrote: »

Only been three tragic losses to the world which is the Macedonian Empire, Roman Empire and the British Empire.

You really are a Grade A shyte stirrer.

Deleted User wrote: »

Such archaic perception of capitalism, and business entities. Corporations and companies of these sizes are not 'American'. They're international constructs that go where the money and talent is. Being American is just marketing hype for funding.

All the major IT multinationals started in the US.
The US offers probably one of the best chances for startups in comparison to lots of other countries.

Most of the industries that have shaped our modern way of life are down to the US.
The entire computer industry has been a US invention, from the beginnings with companies like IBM, Bell Labs, Xerox, Intel, Motorola, Novell, Compaq, HP, right up to today with Microsoft, Dell and Apple.

Personal computers are down to Intel, IBM, Microsoft and Apple.

The internet's parent was the ARPANET military communications network.
Berners-Lee just took that and created the WWW.
And others put the fancy browser interface to it.

Apple revolutionised mobile technology and mobile communications with the iphone.

The likes of Boeing, McDonnell Douglas made aircraft that were capable of carrying more people over longer distances and helped revolutionise air travel.
The US's investment in the space race has had countless knock on affects that touch people in their everyday lives.

US medical companies have contributed massively to advances in medical technology.

And most of these advances in computers, aviation, medicine have been since 1945.

Go back further and the US gave the start and opportunity to innovators and inventors that gave the world the telephone, electric light bulb, the vacuum cleaner, refrigeration, combine harvester, the telegraph, induction motor, the zipper, air conditioning, crystal oscillator and a whole load of advances in weaponary.
The last one is not that surprising. :rolleyes:

Now of course there is bad as well such as the Americanised media world we live in or their fast food outlets that dot the world.

Richard Hillman · 09-10-2017 02:13PM

We would be living under a full blown socialist dictatorship. Even the British would have fallen to the evils of socialism.

It's sad that we are allowing socialism in through the backdoor. The only thing keeping Europe in check and the people dreaming of economic freedom is the Americans. The capitalist might of America is too big for European governments to go full on crazy and strip everybody of their wealth

prinzeugen · 09-10-2017 02:19PM

jmayo wrote: »

And most of these advances in computers, aviation, medicine have been since 1945.
.

Thanks mainly to operation paperclip at the end of WW2.

These things would still have existed in some form without the USA as they never invented them in the first place.

A world without America?

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