What's with this "I've not had" shyte?

Paleblood · 07-10-2017 11:07AM

emo72 wrote: »

"owning" is a new one too. Have you got a problem? Is it bothering you? Here's my advice, you have to "own" it.

Very American so it is.

My 62 year old mother said that recently!

What a douche.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 07-10-2017 11:08AM

Paleblood wrote: »

Did you mean to say you hear it creeping in lately?

This isn't fcuking synesthesia. This is Ireland.

We don't see words, we hear them.

And if you're only measure of popular vernacular is After Hours contributors then I suggest you open your front door and, wait for it.... go outside.

On boards.ie, you would SEE (or read) words. You wouldn't HEAR them. So I was grammatically correct.

Victor · 07-10-2017 11:29AM

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

I see this creeping in to use recently.
'I've not done...' or 'I've not had'...

This isn't fcuking Coronation Street. This is Ireland.

We say have not, or haven't.

Ye Plastic Paddy bashterds.

The effect of mass media on pronounciation: http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/cambridge-app-maps-decline-in-regional-diversity-of-english-dialects

elperello · 07-10-2017 11:40AM

Paleblood wrote: »

My 62 year old mother said that recently!

What a douche.

Sounds like a right goer get her to give me a bell.

07-10-2017 12:13PM

LeinsterDub wrote: »

Language evolves. Get over yourself

Devolves too, lol xoxo

server down · 07-10-2017 12:15PM

bluewolf wrote: »

If I ever hear "I was stood" or "I was sat", I will be going on a murderous rampage

I was thinking something similar. Although I quite like the English when they say it.

But for us: leave it out

07-10-2017 12:15PM

emo72 wrote: »

"owning" is a new one too. Have you got a problem? Is it bothering you? Here's my advice, you have to "own" it.

Very American so it is.

That's a bigger p*ss boiler in all honesty.

server down · 07-10-2017 12:19PM

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

So, nothing is as bad as starting sentences with an unnecessary "so".

So, like this.

So, now I'm off to the shops.

That’s been common in Ireland for generations. What’s more interesting is why Irish people are only getting annoyed now. I have an explanation for that too.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 07-10-2017 12:22PM

Sad state of affairs whe nwe lose the ability to spell ****ugn swear words.
"Fooker"? "Shyte"?

Victor wrote: »

The effect of mass media on pronounciation: http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/cambridge-app-maps-decline-in-regional-diversity-of-english-dialects

I am sure the OP will take this on board with enthusiasm and, like you, I look forward to his considered observations on the attached document and its effects on his opening presentation in the form of a carefully thought-out rebuttal.

server down · 07-10-2017 12:26PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Sad state of affairs whe nwe lose the ability to spell ****ugn swear words.
"Fooker"? "Shyte"?

I am sure the OP will take this on board with enthusiasm and, like you, I look forward to his considered observations on the attached document and its effects on his opening presentation in the form of a carefully thought-out rebuttal.

Well the link doesn’t rebutt the op, to be fair.

Paleblood · 07-10-2017 12:27PM

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

On boards.ie, you would SEE (or read) words. You wouldn't HEAR them. So I was grammatically correct.

Which I alluded to in my final line. Try keep up.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 07-10-2017 12:47PM

Victor wrote: »

The effect of mass media on pronounciation: http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/cambridge-app-maps-decline-in-regional-diversity-of-english-dialects

server down wrote: »

Well the link doesn’t rebutt the op, to be fair.

What's thee spotin' 'bout nah, bairn? Ah've not got no time for reedin' when there's trouble down t'mine!

indioblack · 07-10-2017 01:08PM

"Winders. W I N D E R S, go an' clean 'em"
Charles Dickens.

Gwynplaine · 07-10-2017 01:12PM

"I love curry me" why is there a "me" at the end?
Also, "my bad". I have been known to blush when I hear someone say it.

dr.fuzzenstein · 07-10-2017 01:23PM

Am I the only one who read "I've not had a shyte" as the thread title? I almost started researching laxatives before clicking into this...

Samaris · 07-10-2017 01:29PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Sad state of affairs whe nwe lose the ability to spell ****ugn swear words.
"Fooker"? "Shyte"?

I'm now madly curious as to what "****ugn" could possibly mean.

dd972 · 07-10-2017 01:30PM

Do English folk say that?, can't say I've ever noticed.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 07-10-2017 01:41PM

Samaris wrote: »

I'm now madly curious as to what "****ugn" could possibly mean.

You typed it yourself!

Samaris · 07-10-2017 01:48PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

You typed it yourself!

Yeah, but I had to read yours to do it. I can't even think of any words offhand that end in "ugn", let alone ones that need to be cens- wait, mine appeared with asterixes.

If there's a way to turn that off, I've never found it (or really thought to look for it, tbh!)

dr.fuzzenstein · 07-10-2017 05:18PM

dd972 wrote: »

Do English folk say that?, can't say I've ever noticed.

Naught so queer as folk...

RayM · 07-10-2017 05:22PM

Eeh, well I'll go to the foot of our stairs.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

This isn't fcuking Coronation Street. This is Ireland.

Is it 'eck as like.

MonkieSocks · 07-10-2017 05:29PM

noone knows

Uosdwis R. Dewoh · 07-10-2017 05:33PM

Anyone notice the fashion of dropping "will" or "would" in social media comments sections?

E.g. "He be delighted" ("He'd" or "He'll" be delighted) or "I love to go" ("I'd" love to go). People don't say it so I guess writing it has just come from the laziness caused by text speak.

Ungood.

Zebra3 · 07-10-2017 06:21PM

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

I see this creeping in to use recently.
'I've not done...' or 'I've not had'...

This isn't fcuking Coronation Street. This is Ireland.

We say have not, or haven't.

Ye Plastic Paddy bashterds.

Why are you calling people Plastic Paddies? A Plastic Paddy is somebody trying to be Irish.

In this case it seems like you wanna be calling people West Brits.

Paleblood · 08-10-2017 11:02AM

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

So, nothing is as bad as starting sentences with an unnecessary "so".

So, like this.

So, now I'm off to the shops.

Seamus Heaney started his translation of Beowulf with the word 'so'.

"So. The Spear-Danes in days done by
And the kings who ruled them had courage and greatness.
We have heard of those princes' heroic campaigns."

Previous translators have started with 'Listen!' and J.R.R. Tolkien, in his only recently published translation, used 'Lo!', which has a completely different feel to it.

Heaney, in his translator's note introducing the poem, says that he chose 'so' because in his native Northern Ireland (in Ireland in general, I would argue) the word 'so' is both an end and a beginning, which he thought appropriate for the story of Beowulf. It draws a line under what's previously been said and gives a start to what's about to be said.

He also said that the word captures the solemnity of the men and women of Northern Ireland that he was born amongst and the poem is best read and understood in that spirit

So (see what I did there), the next time you're on the receiving end of it just remember the grand literary tradition you're a part of!

exaisle · 08-10-2017 11:28AM

What gets me is the ignoramuses (ignorami?) who say "should of" and "would of" instead of "should have" and "would have"....

I blame english teachers for not nipping this in the bud. Standards of grammar and syntax these days have slipped to an all-time low.

Harumph!

(PS. Tongue inserted in cheek)

emo72 · 08-10-2017 06:04PM

Omackeral wrote: »

That's a bigger p*ss boiler in all honesty.

It was put there to subtly provoke.

Agricola · 08-10-2017 06:28PM

Flamin' eck! Can you all just give ova! Someone stick kettle on........ I'd murder a brew me.

Permabear · 08-10-2017 06:53PM

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server down · 08-10-2017 07:05PM

Paleblood wrote: »

Seamus Heaney started his translation of Beowulf with the word 'so'.

"So. The Spear-Danes in days done by
And the kings who ruled them had courage and greatness.
We have heard of those princes' heroic campaigns."

Previous translators have started with 'Listen!' and J.R.R. Tolkien, in his only recently published translation, used 'Lo!', which has a completely different feel to it.

Heaney, in his translator's note introducing the poem, says that he chose 'so' because in his native Northern Ireland (in Ireland in general, I would argue) the word 'so' is both an end and a beginning, which he thought appropriate for the story of Beowulf. It draws a line under what's previously been said and gives a start to what's about to be said.

He also said that the word captures the solemnity of the men and women of Northern Ireland that he was born amongst and the poem is best read and understood in that spirit

So (see what I did there), the next time you're on the receiving end of it just remember the grand literary tradition you're a part of!

Exactly. Here is why some Irish people are annoyed with this. It spread in the US particularly in Silicon Valley recently ( I like to think with Irish influence) and started to annoy people over there. That annoyance spread back via some British commentary and now some Irish people think that we never said this, though we may have originated it.

What's with this "I've not had" shyte?

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