Leinster v Munster Build Up Thread

RichieRich89 · 05-10-2017 03:27PM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Obviously I have. Where have they been outcoaches, specifically? "Sloppy rugby" "Basic errors" "poor decisions" doesn't really mean anything.

Leinster are incredibly sloppy for a supposedly elite team. There's just not the necessary clarity and accuracy in their play. It's no wonder it all unravels when the pressure comes on. Leinster play like Lancaster's England, and they never had the precision to win anything.

.ak · 05-10-2017 03:29PM

So random question... anyone know of a bar in Kyoto, Japan showing the match?

irishbucsfan · 05-10-2017 03:29PM

RichieRich89 wrote: »

Leinster are incredibly sloppy for a supposedly elite team. There's just not the necessary clarity and accuracy in their play. It's no wonder it all unravels when the pressure comes on. Leinster play like Lancaster's England, and they never had the precision to win anything.

Like...?

aloooof · 05-10-2017 03:36PM

You might say there isn't necessary clarity and and accuracy in RichieRich's posts.

(Sorry Richie, couldn't resist

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Erik Shin · 05-10-2017 03:41PM

.ak wrote: »

So random question... anyone know of a bar in Kyoto, Japan showing the match?

Very, very, very thinly veiled "look where i am you peasants"

RichieRich89 · 05-10-2017 03:49PM

It's across the board really. Being brilliant technically in everything they do just doesn't seem to be a feature of this Leinster team. Passing, running lines, cleanouts, mauling, lineout, maul defence are a bit all over the place and liable to go haywire. At the breakdown, they look to protect the ball with weight of numbers. Body positions often aren't great. It's not tight and controlled and technically sound. That's the picture I'm getting anyway

aloooof · 05-10-2017 03:55PM

Specifically on the rucking side of things, wasn't there some rule change so that attacking players not bound to the ruck, that get in the way of a defending player trying to block a kick are deemed offside? I vaguely remember hearing this on some podcast, which might go to explain why more numbers are hitting rucks on occasion, to lengthen the ruck and give the 9 more time for the kick. In any case, that's just a small aside.

05-10-2017 05:44PM

Can't remember if it was this thread or not but someone on the forum asked about bringing bags into Lansdowne, they are not allowed, as per an email from Leinster there.

DGRulz · 05-10-2017 05:47PM

It's official Barry Daly is faster than Zebo.

Discuss.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/rugby/isa-nacewa-reveals-leinsters-fastest-player-no-one-else-ireland-surely-comes-close-138677

Also, apologies for sending people to joe.ie

05-10-2017 05:54PM

DGRulz wrote: »

It's official Barry Daly is faster than Zebo.

Discuss.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/rugby/isa-nacewa-reveals-leinsters-fastest-player-no-one-else-ireland-surely-comes-close-138677

Also, apologies for sending people to joe.ie

Wellity wellity wellity

thomond2006 · 05-10-2017 06:02PM

DGRulz wrote: »

Also, apologies for sending people to joe.ie

Apology is not enough. Out. OUT!

leakyboots · 05-10-2017 06:29PM

Curious to see how the scrums fare on Saturday, Munster scrum has been quite dominant thus far this season, wonder will it continue

irishfan9 · 05-10-2017 06:30PM

leakyboots wrote: »

Curious to see how the scrums fare on Saturday, Munster scrum has been quite dominant thus far this season, wonder will it continue

If it does serious questions have to be asked.

leakyboots · 05-10-2017 06:33PM

Can't see it happening myself, but we've been strong up to now. Will be a good test. Won't happen but I'd love to see young O'Connor start in the front row.

Meant to say, I'd hope Munster will be targeting the Leinster 12-13 axis, get Farrell steaming down those channels

RichieRich89 · 05-10-2017 06:53PM

Liam Lively Ultrasound wrote: »

Can't remember if it was this thread or not but someone on the forum asked about bringing bags into Lansdowne, they are not allowed, as per an email from Leinster there.

Mod: No need for this rubbish

05-10-2017 06:54PM

leakyboots wrote: »

Can't see it happening myself, but we've been strong up to now. Will be a good test. Won't happen but I'd love to see young O'Connor start in the front row.

Meant to say, I'd hope Munster will be targeting the Leinster 12-13 axis, get Farrell steaming down those channels

What sort of docile, amicable shíte is this? You realise this is a build up thread??

Allow me to convert your post to the appropriate format:

leakyboots wrote: »

Can't see it happening myself, but we've been strong up to now. Won't happen but if it did a 30 - 0 drubbing of the double velvet quilt parade (Leinster) would go down nicely.

Meant to say, I'd hope Munster will be targeting the Leinster 12-13 axis, get Farrell steaming down on the hard tackling and positionally excellent(LOL) Reid / O'Loughlin.

Looking forward to hearing all about Toner's ruck stats on here after the game! What a hero. trolololololololo

RichieRich89 · 05-10-2017 07:01PM

DGRulz wrote: »

It's official Barry Daly is faster than Zebo.

Discuss.

https://www.sportsjoe.ie/rugby/isa-nacewa-reveals-leinsters-fastest-player-no-one-else-ireland-surely-comes-close-138677

Also, apologies for sending people to joe.ie

It's a bit disingenuous to use Bolt's average speed when he ran 9.58 as a comparison if they're talking about top speed

DGRulz · 05-10-2017 07:15PM

RichieRich89 wrote: »

It's a bit disingenuous to use Bolt's average speed when he ran 9.58 as a comparison if they're talking about top speed

Again. joe.ie

DGRulz · 05-10-2017 07:19PM

thomond2006 wrote: »

Apology is not enough. Out. OUT!

John Hayes said it's all good while I was chatting to him earlier. Also mentioned he personally ranks props in the following order Furlong > Ross > Buckley > himself. Thought it was very honest of him personally.

mfceiling · 05-10-2017 07:24PM

.ak wrote: »

So random question... anyone know of a bar in Kyoto, Japan showing the match?

You gotta love .ak

The big inter pro derby and he swans off round Japan without a care for this forum or his fellow mods.

*Internet high five*

RichieRich89 · 05-10-2017 07:53PM

DGRulz wrote: »

Again. joe.ie

Comparing Daly's top speed of 10.5m/s to Bolt's top speed of 12.27m/s when running 9.58s you come up with a time of 11.19s for 100m (I think). That's pretty good. It's similar to Hickie's 11.20 on the track. Maybe Daly would be faster on a track, although if he doesn't have Bolt's speed endurance, only using top speeds to compare might give an inflated idea of what Daly is capable of.

05-10-2017 08:00PM

Did Hickie only run an 11.2?

Not to be picky but was that hand timed or electronic?

impr0v · 05-10-2017 08:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Did Hickie only run an 11.2?

Not to be picky but was that hand timed or electronic?

It was into a strong headwind, and before his later aero assistance.

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Rigor Mortis · 05-10-2017 09:02PM

He ran 11.19 in the All Ireland Schools 100m, be surprised if he never clocked faster than that in his 20s

05-10-2017 09:20PM

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

He ran 11.19 in the All Ireland Schools 100m, be surprised if he never clocked faster than that in his 20s

Oh he for sure did in a proper training setup.

11.20 is not particularly fast even for a non sprinter. I'd have thought most of the back 3 lads in Ireland should have the conditioning for sub 11 but then again they've a lot more jobs aside from being fast so who knows.

RichieRich89 · 05-10-2017 09:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh he for sure did in a proper training setup.

11.20 is not particularly fast even for a non sprinter. I'd have thought most of the back 3 lads in Ireland should have the conditioning for sub 11 but then again they've a lot more jobs aside from being fast so who knows.

Anything close to 11 would be fast for a rugby player. Zebo claims to have been timed running 11.1. There's a video of some Aussie rugby players including Jarryd Hayne and Lachlan Turner racing 100m on a track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc-e129SBb4

05-10-2017 09:45PM

RichieRich89 wrote: »

Anything close to 11 would be fast for a rugby player. Zebo claims to have been timed running 11.1. There's a video of some Aussie rugby players including Jarryd Hayne and Lachlan Turner racing 100m on a track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc-e129SBb4

That was very interesting actually, thanks. First semi-accurate time comparison setup I've seen. Don't know how this would compare to the top lads in the NH but overall my takeaway from this is that pro rugby players are a LOT slower than I thought.

Squidgy Black · 05-10-2017 11:09PM

Who do we reckon will start at 10 for Munster, Keatley or Bleyendaal?

If Keatley starts and goes well he'll definitely be putting his hand up to be part of the AI squad I reckon.

RichieRich89 · 05-10-2017 11:30PM

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Who do we reckon will start at 10 for Munster, Keatley or Bleyendaal?

If Keatley starts and goes well he'll definitely be putting his hand up to be part of the AI squad I reckon.

Dunno, but it should be Hanrahan. Ronan O'Gara talking on The Hard Yards about Hanrahan: "I think JJ is a guy that has the capacity to excel at international level. That's probably a big statement but I think his game would stand up at Test level, and could excel. "What he doesn't need to be doing - because he's a great sub too, and can cover 10, 12, 15 - is if he becomes a utility bench man, it's going to really hinder his chances to try to challenge for the number two spot [behind Johnny Sexton] in the Irish team." Pretty much exactly what I was saying earlier

thomond2006 · 05-10-2017 11:36PM

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Who do we reckon will start at 10 for Munster, Keatley or Bleyendaal?

If Keatley starts and goes well he'll definitely be putting his hand up to be part of the AI squad I reckon.

Well it can't be the furriner. Dey tuk er jerbs.

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