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Ashill5 · 26-09-2017 10:42PM #1

Just want a bit of advice on what would be the best cross for Texel & Beltex crosses.
While I'd be used of cattle, this is my first time having sheep!

Lambman · 27-09-2017 12:11AM

Ashill5 wrote: »

Just want a bit of advice on what would be the best cross for Texel & Beltex crosses.
While I'd be used of cattle, this is my first time having sheep!

I'd it hoggets you bought? I'd go with the charrlois on hoggets..... crosses well on most breeds IMO

cuff92 · 27-09-2017 07:21AM

Lambman wrote: »

I'd it hoggets you bought? I'd go with the charrlois on hoggets..... crosses well on most breeds IMO

I'd have to agree with the man, ease of lambing too as them beltex can be narrow.

Ashill5 · 27-09-2017 02:02PM

They bought in as store lambs and they turned out great, very quite sheep. So I decided I'd try and lamb them.
Think I'll go with the Charlouis
Thanks for the replies.

Hard Knocks · 28-09-2017 05:13PM

Ashill5 wrote: »

They bought in as store lambs and they turned out great, very quite sheep. So I decided I'd try and lamb them.
Think I'll go with the Charlouis
Thanks for the replies.

Just to note, Charolais wouldn't be suited to outdoor lambing, but are super lambs when the get going

Sheep breeder · 28-09-2017 05:25PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Just to note, Charolais wouldn't be suited to outdoor lambing, but are super lambs when the get going

Have to disagree with you on that,a Charollais great lamb to get up and get going and no problem.

Cran · 28-09-2017 06:42PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Just to note, Charolais wouldn't be suited to outdoor lambing, but are super lambs when the get going

Totally disagree have lambed 1000s of ewes in lamb to charollais over the years, for me best lamb outdoors.

Hard Knocks · 28-09-2017 09:46PM

Cran wrote: »

Totally disagree have lambed 1000s of ewes in lamb to charollais over the years, for me best lamb outdoors.

Put a Charolais with Ewe lambs last year (first time using Charolais), really impressed, but was told as I'm part-time to lamb indoors & let out on the morning of a good day as they wouldn't have the same cover as other breeds

cuff92 · 28-09-2017 09:51PM

Had them here outa hiltex ewes. No handling, up fast, they nearly hit the ground suckling. Great cross. Had them outta Suffolk type ewes too and found them good but too bare. Them being that bare didn't suit us

grassroot1 · 28-09-2017 10:20PM

Texel or beltex cross ewes wouldnt be world champions for outdoor lambing either.
Crans mules would be more suited to outdoor lambing.
A ewe that will look for a sheltered place to lamb and has been bred to outdoor lamb (mountain crosses or romneys) and a sire breed that makes an effort to get up and suck are the key to outdoor lambing.

charolais0153 · 28-09-2017 10:47PM

Charollais can be bare cold lambs. Would jackets be a good job for them perhaps. Pita bringing lambs in that are hunched by the wall

Hard Knocks · 29-09-2017 08:59AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Charollais can be bare cold lambs. Would jackets be a good job for them perhaps. Pita bringing lambs in that are hunched by the wall

Put jackets on all here, some last a day others a week.

farming93 · 29-09-2017 06:07PM

Rams went out today 10 ewes tipped so far. Have the ewes and ewe lambs mixed together so hopefully a few ewe lambs will go in lamb.

Sheep breeder · 29-09-2017 09:40PM

cuff92 wrote: »

Had them here outa hiltex ewes. No handling, up fast, they nearly hit the ground suckling. Great cross. Had them outta Suffolk type ewes too and found them good but too bare. Them being that bare didn't suit us

Any new born only needs one thing plenty of suck and if the ewe hasn't got that it's not the rams fault let him be a char, suff, Tex,
Have used Charollais for nearly twenty years and never had problem when the ewe is well fed,bareness is only a excuse for poor management.

charolais0153 · 29-09-2017 09:47PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Any new born only needs one thing plenty of suck and if the ewe hasn't got that it's not the rams fault let him be a char, suff, Tex,
Have used Charollais for nearly twenty years and never had problem when the ewe is well fed,bareness is only a excuse for poor management.

What can you do when the texel and suffolk lambs are fine but your constantly bringing in charollais lambs cos their up against the wall with humps on their backs. What do you propose we do so they arent as cold

Ard_MC · 29-09-2017 09:49PM

Bought a ram 2 weeks ago. I house all my rams for a few weeks now till i let them out. Just pure laziness as i am workin and i know they wiil be there when i am gone!

Any way ram is eating and looking healthy but is lyin down alot. Every time i pass he is lyin but hops up an eats and then back down. Like if i put him up he is lyin by the time i get back with his nuts. Again he is healthy...well nothing obvious. No lameness, pneumonia etc..

Is he is just lazy or is did i buy a flop?!

kk.man · 30-09-2017 12:30AM

Ard_MC wrote: »

Bought a ram 2 weeks ago. I house all my rams for a few weeks now till i let them out. Just pure laziness as i am workin and i know they wiil be there when i am gone!

Any way ram is eating and looking healthy but is lyin down alot. Every time i pass he is lyin but hops up an eats and then back down. Like if i put him up he is lyin by the time i get back with his nuts. Again he is healthy...well nothing obvious. No lameness, pneumonia etc..

Is he is just lazy or is did i buy a flop?!

Can't answer your question but that's a great idea 're housing. One of my rams managed to break through 2 fields to reach ewe lambs I intend keeping 4 hoggets. I don't know how long he was there for (hours) or damage he did. Lambs weren't that interested in him when I arrived and I got him out of field on his own ! I was thinking of putting him in with a few cast ewes till mating starts.

Sheep breeder · 30-09-2017 07:24AM

Ard_MC wrote: »

Bought a ram 2 weeks ago. I house all my rams for a few weeks now till i let them out. Just pure laziness as i am workin and i know they wiil be there when i am gone!

Any way ram is eating and looking healthy but is lyin down alot. Every time i pass he is lyin but hops up an eats and then back down. Like if i put him up he is lyin by the time i get back with his nuts. Again he is healthy...well nothing obvious. No lameness, pneumonia etc..

Is he is just lazy or is did i buy a flop?!

Has being on the 4 or 5 time a day feed system and when he see you he thinks it feeding time.

Ard_MC · 30-09-2017 08:21AM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

Has being on the 4 or 5 time a day feed system and when he see you he thinks it feeding time.

No this buck was defo not on hevay feedin. I am tempted to buy a spare incase he does the same when he sees the ewes!

rangler1 · 30-09-2017 08:26AM

Ard_MC wrote: »

Bought a ram 2 weeks ago. I house all my rams for a few weeks now till i let them out. Just pure laziness as i am workin and i know they wiil be there when i am gone!

Any way ram is eating and looking healthy but is lyin down alot. Every time i pass he is lyin but hops up an eats and then back down. Like if i put him up he is lyin by the time i get back with his nuts. Again he is healthy...well nothing obvious. No lameness, pneumonia etc..

Is he is just lazy or is did i buy a flop?!

Your lambing will be a lot more compact if you put the rams in the next field to the ewes for two weeks before mating and the rams will be fitter too....if your fencing is right that is

Ard_MC · 30-09-2017 08:39AM

rangler1 wrote: »

Your lambing will be a lot more compact if you put the rams in the next field to the ewes for two weeks before mating and the rams will be fitter too....if your fencing is right that is

Yah i know rangler but most of my ewes are running on a mountain and wont be gathered till about 10 days before the rams go out..its rhe neighbours ewes i am keeping them away from! I swear some of the swales can jump 6ft!!

IH784man · 04-10-2017 08:11AM

My rams been out since 25th and hasn't tipped any yet,might be time to get a new one sharpish

Inchilad · 04-10-2017 07:10PM

Picked out a few mules to put with the hampshire at weekend.my thinking is that ill have a few lambs ready for muslim festivals next year.trying to keep the swale in a shed until 1 november.like a feckin grand national winner.some hoors to jump

Lambman · 04-10-2017 08:14PM

The dates change everyyear.... wat dates are the festivals next year?

farming93 · 04-10-2017 08:49PM

IH784man wrote: »

My rams been out since 25th and hasn't tipped any yet,might be time to get a new one sharpish

I didn't raddle my rams last year.. one ewe lambed the 18th of February (the due date) the rest all burst off lambing the 1st of March. Sometimes it goes like that but probably would you of been safer having the second ram or even a ram lamb from the start? Just for peace of mind.

razor8 · 04-10-2017 09:11PM

Two weeks earlier next year

Hard Knocks · 04-10-2017 09:41PM

razor8 wrote: »

Two weeks earlier next year

Yea hopefully good prices in April & May for spring lambs

Western Pomise · 04-10-2017 11:17PM

Just checking my dates for ram....

I hope to have ewes lambing from March 24th....so with that in mind what date should I let ram in on?

Thanks for any replies.

charolais0153 · 05-10-2017 07:25AM

Western Pomise wrote: »

Just checking my dates for ram....

I hope to have ewes lambing from March 24th....so with that in mind what date should I let ram in on?

Thanks for any replies.

29th october

Green farmer · 05-10-2017 08:02AM

What lambing dates are lads aiming for next year ? Undecided here.

charolais0153 · 05-10-2017 08:10AM

Ram out since 22nd sept. Around 75% tipped so far. Texel x ewes have been very slow

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