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farawaygrass · 23-09-2017 10:57AM

I admire mol and quietly admire lg, as I think I would be slated amounts my friends if I said so aloud. The world was, is and will always be the same when it comes to business. If it wasn't lg if would have been someone else, maybe not to the same excess, or maybe more, who knows.
In both men's cases, there were rules in place, and they played to the limit, and bent them, but as the saying goes rules are made to be broken! Unethical and unfair-yes, but life is unfair at the best of times. I think lg looked after his workers too and a lot had good time for him.
If we all had the sharp minds, charisma and confidence like lg and mol would we be much different?
Also, I think what was said about money not being your god is correct. You should not ignore community and family chasing money. Mol gives a lot back to racing.

rangler1 · 23-09-2017 10:57AM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Sometimes I wonder about you Rangler. You seem to have the cap in hand fawning attitude from a bygone era. I recently had dealing with a few Limerick GAA supporters. There was a similar attitude to JP McManus. Now again I have a huge respect for JP But similar to other super rich who at time preach to us(to be fair JP is not one of them) I like to remind people that they do not pay there taxes in Ireland something that LG and MOL do.

But I do not hold them up as Gods. Money and success at any cost seem to be your God Rangler. You brag about your personnel success in IFA however were you involved in your local community in sporting or charity organisations.

Yes there are bigger crimes but a lot of LG's business practices were sharp at best and seems to lack a moral ethos. TBF MOL has seem to operate within ethical boundries AFAIK. Success is more often in what you leave behind you whether it is love of sport in you children, a love of farming an scense of ethics just the ability to live life. Not a life where money is god.

Money is definitely not my God, wouldn't be foolish enough to Drystock farm if it was, I respect people who work hard to achieve their goals, I don't go cap in hand to anyone and you're getting personal again in your posts....again

Certainly don't respect begrudgery, plenty of opportunities to go into beef processing for you out there, another factory for sale for you.
A love of sport in children isn't much good to pay the bills in a country,
I think someone should wake you up because you're dreaming

patsy_mccabe · 23-09-2017 11:22AM

Sad the way this thread is going. Sometimes you're better off not to say anything.

farawaygrass · 23-09-2017 11:29AM

What would your expert opinions be on these bull calves-good enough or too poor to try finish as u16 bulls? Never done it before

farawaygrass · 23-09-2017 11:33AM

Few more pics

rangler1 · 23-09-2017 12:37PM

farawaygrass wrote: »

Few more pics

What age and weight are they now,
A neighbour claims that they need to be 'Lost' in the furze for a few months before you register them at that crack

farawaygrass · 23-09-2017 01:40PM

rangler1 wrote: »

What age and weight are they now,
A neighbour claims that they need to be 'Lost' in the furze for a few months before you register them at that crack

Late Feb to middle of April. Registered correctly. About 300kg tops

FarmerDougal · 23-09-2017 02:41PM

farawaygrass wrote: »

Late Feb to middle of April. Registered correctly. About 300kg tops

You could do u16 with them but it's a long time in shed until next June July..u could let them out in spring and then put in but it's questionable with small numbers

charolais0153 · 23-09-2017 02:44PM

farawaygrass wrote: »

Late Feb to middle of April. Registered correctly. About 300kg tops

Tall orange lad maybe. But it wouls be a loss making exercise for the rest of them

Muckit · 23-09-2017 02:54PM

The money is one thing. Time is another.

patsy_mccabe · 23-09-2017 02:59PM

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.

gerryirl · 23-09-2017 04:08PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.

is that what he sold for. I have a lad for the factory next week similar to him and a little over that weight but he wont make that money anyway .. What does the man that bought him do with him.. did you get his number by any chance..lol

charolais0153 · 23-09-2017 04:21PM

gerryirl wrote: »

is that what he sold for. I have a lad for the factory next week similar to him and a little over that weight but he wont make that money anyway .. What does the man that bought him do with him.. did you get his number by any chance..lol

He looks decent on his feet. Id say hes gone for breeding

patsy_mccabe · 23-09-2017 07:09PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

He looks decent on his feet. Id say hes gone for breeding

He's a bullock.

charolais0153 · 23-09-2017 07:22PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

He's a bullock.

Oh lol ha

farawaygrass · 23-09-2017 07:27PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Tall orange lad maybe. But it wouls be a loss making exercise for the rest of them

That was my thinking too tbh. Might try sell him soon and squeeze the rest and keep for next summer

Hard Knocks · 23-09-2017 07:29PM

FarmerDougal wrote: »

You could do u16 with them but it's a long time in shed until next June July..u could let them out in spring and then put in but it's questionable with small numbers

Would u16 bulls be better suited to Autumn born?
If these bulls were housed now @ 300kg, pushed over the winter what weight would they be in Apr/May?

CloughCasey1 · 23-09-2017 07:42PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would u16 bulls be better suited to Autumn born?
If these bulls were housed now @ 300kg, pushed over the winter what weight would they be in Apr/May?

Yup.

farawaygrass · 23-09-2017 08:33PM

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Would u16 bulls be better suited to Autumn born?
If these bulls were housed now @ 300kg, pushed over the winter what weight would they be in Apr/May?

I was wondering that too the last day, but say you are calving in august, then these calves will be 16 months old in December, when there isn't traditionally a huge demand for beef due to the Christmas.

charolais0153 · 23-09-2017 09:12PM

farawaygrass wrote: »

I was wondering that too the last day, but say you are calving in august, then these calves will be 16 months old in December, when there isn't traditionally a huge demand for beef due to the Christmas.

Have them at xmas .reg in feb kill in june. Would be handiest

Cavanjack · 23-09-2017 09:25PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

He's a bullock.

Some bullock, and you can still see his ribs. Bit of feeding left in him yet.

farawaygrass · 24-09-2017 12:50AM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Have them at xmas .reg in feb kill in june. Would be handiest

Buy by having them at Christmas, there is a hell of a lot more labour, and probably expense, as you meed to keep them indoor longest, sat Tull march

CHOPS01 · 24-09-2017 01:10AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.[/quo

What was the dearest bullock ever sold in a mart?

Pidae.m · 24-09-2017 09:14AM

CHOPS01 wrote: »

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.[/quo

What was the dearest bullock ever sold in a mart?

I bought two weanling for 600 when I was starting out. I can guarantee they were!

patsy_mccabe · 24-09-2017 10:49AM

Cavanjack wrote: »

Some bullock, and you can still see his ribs. Bit of feeding left in him yet.

Nobody commented on the red rosette on his back. That went a long way to boost his price. :cool:

orm0nd · 24-09-2017 11:05AM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Nobody commented on the red rosette on his back. That went a long way to boost his price. :cool:

show sale, was that yesterday?

we have a fancy lm heifer here, was thinking of showing her next week,

patsy_mccabe · 24-09-2017 11:09AM

orm0nd wrote: »

show sale, was that yesterday?

we have a fancy lm heifer here, was thinking of showing her next week,

Ya, for the older cattle, not the weanlings.

gerryirl · 24-09-2017 04:57PM

CHOPS01 wrote: »

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

€2100 and 800kg. Sixmilebridge mart in Clare.[/quo

What was the dearest bullock ever sold in a mart?

you know I'll be shot for saying this but there everywhere the Show dog farmers as I call them.. They buy the prize winners and all the best cattle at the mart and are polled rightly. might not make a cent on them but hell what do they care everyone talks about them..

Ill get my coat

CloughCasey1 · 26-09-2017 08:48AM

10 BULLOCKS 24-30mts gone this morning. 3.80bp.

CHOPS01 · 26-09-2017 09:13AM

Making the call myself in a while to organise to get a few away.

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