7ft mower

studdlymurphy · 15-09-2017 10:44AM #1

Lads,
I'm looking for a good either new or nearly new 7ft mower. The tractor is 90hp and the tedder is 20ft so that's the reason for not wanting an 8ft or 9ft.
Any suggestions. Vicon seem decent and do kverneland make 7ft mower I like their build quality. Or any more that I am overlooking?
I had looked at a major and was impressed but they only come in 8 or 9ft.
Thanks.

cute geoge · 15-09-2017 10:58AM

A 7 foot mower is not a whole lot wider the a 5 foot 6 rotary mower .What has a 20 foot turner to do with what size mower you have ???
Most lads would at least go 8 foot unless you like to pass the day driving around the field

emaherx · 15-09-2017 11:04AM

studdlymurphy wrote: »

Lads,
I'm looking for a good either new or nearly new 7ft mower. The tractor is 90hp and the tedder is 20ft so that's the reason for not wanting an 8ft or 9ft.
Any suggestions. Vicon seem decent and do kverneland make 7ft mower I like their build quality. Or any more that I am overlooking?
I had looked at a major and was impressed but they only come in 8 or 9ft.
Thanks.

I was looking at the kverneland myself. The most important thing to me at the moment (after struggling with stripping beds to replace bearings) is serviceability. From looking at the kverneland all bearings can be replaced without having to strip the bed.

Lely may be worth a look too as they claim to have direct shaft drive to each disk making it easier to drive with lower HP and less fuel.

https://www.lely.com/ie/in-the-field/mowing/rear-mowers/splendimo-classic/modular-cutter-bar/

studdlymurphy · 15-09-2017 11:34AM

cute geoge wrote:

A 7 foot mower is not a whole lot wider the a 5 foot 6 rotary mower .What has a 20 foot turner to do with what size mower you have ??? Most lads would at least go 8 foot unless you like to pass the day driving around the field

The 7ft is 1ft more at 6.5ft. That gives me 3 cuts to the width of the tedder the first turn being the important one. Whereas the 8ft will only give me 2 to the width possibly half hitting the third

studdlymurphy · 15-09-2017 11:36AM

emaherx wrote:

Lely may be worth a look too as they claim to have direct shaft drive to each disk making it easier to drive with lower HP and less fuel.

I didn't look at any key. I'll do some reading on it now

Sam Kade · 15-09-2017 01:48PM

emaherx wrote: »

I was looking at the kverneland myself. The most important thing to me at the moment (after struggling with stripping beds to replace bearings) is serviceability. From looking at the kverneland all bearings can be replaced without having to strip the bed.

Lely may be worth a look too as they claim to have direct shaft drive to each disk making it easier to drive with lower HP and less fuel.

https://www.lely.com/ie/in-the-field/mowing/rear-mowers/splendimo-classic/modular-cutter-bar/

Can the bearings of the idle gears be changed without opening the bed?

FeelTheBern · 15-09-2017 01:49PM

emaherx wrote: »

I was looking at the kverneland myself. The most important thing to me at the moment (after struggling with stripping beds to replace bearings) is serviceability. From looking at the kverneland all bearings can be replaced without having to strip the bed.

Lely may be worth a look too as they claim to have direct shaft drive to each disk making it easier to drive with lower HP and less fuel.

https://www.lely.com/ie/in-the-field/mowing/rear-mowers/splendimo-classic/modular-cutter-bar/

What kind of HP minimum would you need to have for 8 foot?

emaherx · 15-09-2017 02:27PM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Can the bearings of the idle gears be changed without opening the bed?

On the kverneland?
Yes. This would be the biggest selling point for me. Infact the bed is a completely welded tube and cannot be split.

Idler gears can be removed sideways after disk and disk gear/bearings are removed.

studdlymurphy · 15-09-2017 03:27PM

emaherx wrote:

Lely may be worth a look too as they claim to have direct shaft drive to each disk making it easier to drive with lower HP and less fuel.

New Lely 205 7ft for 5,750 anybody have any experience of them? Or thoughts?

emaherx · 15-09-2017 04:12PM

FeelTheBern wrote: »

What kind of HP minimum would you need to have for 8 foot?

I'm currently driving an 8ft with a 390T. Tractor is well capable at 94 HP. Any bigger would be too heavy (mounted) I think apart from the extra HP requirement.

FeelTheBern · 15-09-2017 05:41PM

emaherx wrote: »

I'm currently driving an 8ft with a 390T. Tractor is well capable at 94 HP. Any bigger would be too heavy (mounted) I think apart from the extra HP requirement.

Would a 390 manage one?

emaherx · 15-09-2017 05:49PM

FeelTheBern wrote: »

Would a 390 manage one?

I would imagine it would be fine. Possibly need a lower gear in heavier crops. It will be the same weight as 390T. Biggest thing to watch out for before mowing with an older tractor is that your cooling system is working correctly especially gauges.

Sam Kade · 15-09-2017 10:14PM

emaherx wrote: »

On the kverneland?
Yes. This would be the biggest selling point for me. Infact the bed is a completely welded tube and cannot be split.

Idler gears can be removed sideways after disk and disk gear/bearings are removed.

Interesting, I've a galfre mower with a similar setup. there's a seal gone in an idle gear and my mechanic told me it would have to be split to change the seal, he never saw the mower so I presume the same could be done with my mower. There's a large allen screw on the idle gear, do you think it could be repaired without opening the bed?

FeelTheBern · 15-09-2017 11:13PM

studdlymurphy wrote: »

The 7ft is 1ft more at 6.5ft. That gives me 3 cuts to the width of the tedder the first turn being the important one. Whereas the 8ft will only give me 2 to the width possibly half hitting the third

What would a standard haybob turn out - would it be just one 8 foot or 10 foot swarth?

Sam Kade · 15-09-2017 11:19PM

FeelTheBern wrote: »

What would a standard haybob turn out - would it be just one 8 foot or 10 foot swarth?

Almost 2 8' swarths.

FeelTheBern · 16-09-2017 07:29AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Almost 2 8' swarths.

So if they were 10" would you just be doing one swarth at a time down the middle of the haybob or would you be pulling out of one and a bit and then overlapping back a bit on next run?

emaherx · 16-09-2017 08:13AM

Sam Kade wrote: »

Interesting, I've a galfre mower with a similar setup. there's a seal gone in an idle gear and my mechanic told me it would have to be split to change the seal, he never saw the mower so I presume the same could be done with my mower. There's a large allen screw on the idle gear, do you think it could be repaired without opening the bed?

Don't know any thing about that mower. Mine has large Allen bolts through the idler gear too, but when you remove them you still can't remove the idler gear without splitting the bed.

Is the galfre bolted together in 2 halves?

If there is a seal gone at the idler gear perhaps yours can remove idler gears without splitting. Normally in beds like mine that have to be split they have no seals related directly to the idler gears.

Sam Kade · 16-09-2017 10:25AM

emaherx wrote: »

Don't know any thing about that mower. Mine has large Allen bolts through the idler gear too, but when you remove them you still can't remove the idler gear without splitting the bed.

Is the galfre bolted together in 2 halves?

If there is a seal gone at the idler gear perhaps yours can remove idler gears without splitting. Normally in beds like mine that have to be split they have no seals related directly to the idler gears.

Yeah, bolted together in 2 halves. I presume it's a seal as there is oil leaking out where the idle gear is.

Sam Kade · 16-09-2017 10:30AM

FeelTheBern wrote: »

So if they were 10" would you just be doing one swarth at a time down the middle of the haybob or would you be pulling out of one and a bit and then overlapping back a bit on next run?

Yeah just one swarth with 10', I've a 9' mower and the haybob takes a slight bit off the next swarth.

croot · 16-09-2017 10:57AM

studdlymurphy wrote: »

The 7ft is 1ft more at 6.5ft. That gives me 3 cuts to the width of the tedder the first turn being the important one. Whereas the 8ft will only give me 2 to the width possibly half hitting the third

Why not get a mower that lays it flat if you are tedding it anyway?

studdlymurphy · 16-09-2017 11:44AM

croot wrote:

Why not get a mower that lays it flat if you are tedding it anyway?

We have a drum mower but looking at a disc mower. The drum put the row in on top of itself but the disc will more just drop the grass.
I get what you mean, I may not need to worry about what size tedder if the grass is not getting lumped into rows like with a drum mower.
Food for thought.

croot · 16-09-2017 02:34PM

studdlymurphy wrote: »

We have a drum mower but looking at a disc mower. The drum put the row in on top of itself but the disc will more just drop the grass.
I get what you mean, I may not need to worry about what size tedder if the grass is not getting lumped into rows like with a drum mower.
Food for thought.

My contractor has a trailed kneverland that lays it flat and he rows it up from the flat then. Much better wilt from that way

studdlymurphy · 16-09-2017 04:31PM

croot wrote:

My contractor has a trailed kneverland that lays it flat and he rows it up from the flat then. Much better wilt from that way

Probably a conditioner on it?

croot · 17-09-2017 09:57PM

studdlymurphy wrote: »

Probably a conditioner on it?

Yes it has.

7ft mower

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