High Noon with George Hook.

quintana76 · 12-09-2017 04:12PM

Jobs OXO wrote: »

It's a prime slot. I'm sure some recently 'displaced' presenters would only be too happy to jump in if Hook gets the heave-ho

I think you mean recently displaced presenter (M singular)

The_Captain · 12-09-2017 04:16PM

Lt Dan wrote: »

Please provide the actual evidence, in full, to support the allegation(s) of racism and take into account what the term racism actually means

Please put in a request of no less than 3,000 words outlining why your opinion is important and why you feel you can make demands of anyone

nicedryturf · 12-09-2017 04:16PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Now I'm starting to feel really sorry for George. He sounded very shook on the radio today. What has being going on on his twitter timeline has been unbelievable and now this.

He has apologised, move on ffs.

Eff him. I lost half an hour of quality lunchtime radio to his pitiful drooling

super_furry · 12-09-2017 04:18PM

I still miss Eamonn Keane. Hear he's on WLR FM these days, absolutely wasted there.

foxtrot101 · 12-09-2017 04:19PM

nicedryturf wrote: »

Eff him. I lost half an hour of quality lunchtime radio to his pitiful drooling

Nah, it doesn't really matter if you like or not, this is going too far.

jooksavage · 12-09-2017 04:20PM

Lt Dan wrote: »

Each staff member should be named

You might be surprised (or not) to see some recognizable names on there. 20 signatories is A LOT for a radio station, I would expect some Newstalk presenters put their name to that.

quintana76 · 12-09-2017 04:21PM

Sounds like an attempted coup led by a certain disgruntled broadcaster who sees his chance.

nicedryturf · 12-09-2017 04:29PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Nah, it doesn't really matter if you like or not, this is going too far.

I can feel sorry for him insofar as he is an elderly man who could lose his last job under a horrible cloud but jesus its not like he wasnt warned about this stuff. remember that time he said stuff about niamh ni dhomhnall? as fintan o'toole said this morning he played the "poor aul george" card that time and im sure he would love to play it again.

i might feel kind of bad for like 30 seconds but its all good again when they dump yates during the reshuffle and give moncrieff the newly created and much-covetted 12pm to 7pm slot.

super_furry · 12-09-2017 04:29PM

quintana76 wrote: »

Sounds like an attempted coup led by a certain disgruntled broadcaster who sees his chance.

He'd be some genius if he's able to convince 19 other members of staff to go along with him if they didn't really believe that Hook is dragging down their station. Surely someone with such great skills as an orator would deserve a prime-time slot, say, oh I dunno......lunchtime?

ballsymchugh · 12-09-2017 04:40PM

super_furry wrote: »

I still miss Eamonn Keane. Hear he's on WLR FM these days, absolutely wasted there.

ah here, there's over reacting, and now this?!! :eek:

quintana76 · 12-09-2017 04:44PM

super_furry wrote: »

He'd be some genius if he's able to convince 19 other members of staff to go along with him if they didn't really believe that Hook is dragging down their station. Surely someone with such great skills as an orator would deserve a prime-time slot, say, oh I dunno......lunchtime?

Watch this space.

DeadHand · 12-09-2017 04:44PM

The_Captain wrote: »

Please put in a request of no less than 3,000 words outlining why your opinion is important and why you feel you can make demands of anyone

You stated the man was racist so the burden of proof is on you.

So, please produce a single racist sentiment George has written or spoken at any point in his long media career. Or stop with the cowardly, anonymous abuse.

Hook is/was extensively involved in charities bringing rugby to predominantly black kids in inner city America and house building projects in South Africa and Haiti. These don't strike me as things a racist becomes involved in.

While you're at it, why don't you give us a run down of all the charity work you have participated in for, with and among people of a different race that qualifies you to call a fundamentally decant and charitable man a racist.

Billgirlylegs · 12-09-2017 04:44PM

Chelsea Miniature Somehow wrote: »

3D chess, right? I guess losing a show sponsor was the equivalent of sacrificing a pawn.

I just don't understand this: if they didn't want Fintan O'Toole and Una Mullaly on the station why didn't they just stop inviting them on?

It might have been a joke?

jooksavage · 12-09-2017 04:45PM

super_furry wrote: »

I still miss Eamonn Keane. Hear he's on WLR FM these days, absolutely wasted there.

Whaaaat? What's he at down there? I used to really enjoy his show. Bit of a legend when it came to music and pop culture. I remember texting in Moncrieff once and making reference to veteran Cali punks the Dead Kennedys. Next day on his show Keane starts off by saying "someone texted Sean about the Dead Kennedys yesterday... that takes me back!" and started talking about his favourite DK albums!

He used to do a bit of the over-sincere Johnathan Healy thing but he generally kept it light. NT could definitely do worse if Hook has to go.

ballsymchugh · 12-09-2017 04:46PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Now I'm starting to feel really sorry for George. He sounded very shook on the radio today. What has being going on on his twitter timeline has been unbelievable and now this.

He has apologised, move on ffs.

some clown has accused him of inciting violence against women.

https://twitter.com/ComputerUser3/status/907629704190087168

Rubberchikken · 12-09-2017 04:48PM

these complaining clowns won't be happy until there is no one left saying anything but what they deem the right thing to say.
personally feel he shouldn't have apologised. if he believed what he said, then he should be big enough to stand by it and leave these 'liberals'/whatevers to their stupidity and silliness.

DeadHand · 12-09-2017 05:19PM

The basic premise of Hook's comments was correct- risky sexual behaviour can lead to bad things. Everyone has a responsibility to keep themselves safe.

These simple realities take in no way from the fact that when a rape occurs no one but the rapist is to blame. This is where Hook went wrong- he was clumsy in using the word "blame" in relation to the victim.

He erred. He apologised for it.

I don't believe for a second he is a misogynist or that he condoned rape or that he wishes to normalise sexual violence. He simply used the wrong word and rightly apologised.

Yet, the mob keeps coming. What is infinitely more worrying than the comments is the reaction to them. Vicious, herd like and authoritarian- just as it would be in 1950s Ireland had someone been seen as disrespecting the Catholic Church.

The new "liberal" dogma is becoming just as repressive and damaging to national discourse as the old Catholic was.

wnolan1992 · 12-09-2017 05:25PM

This entire saga is a bit of a get out of jail free card for NT.

Hook's figures have been falling on lunchtimes I believe. This is their opportunity to give him the boot and come out of it with positive PR.

Not going to weigh in on whether I agree with the calls for him to go or not, just saying it's a golden opportunity for NT should they wish to avail of it.

pilly · 12-09-2017 05:27PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

This entire saga is a bit of a get out of jail free card for NT.

Hook's figures have been falling on lunchtimes I believe. This is their opportunity to give him the boot and come out of it with positive PR.

Not going to weigh in on whether I agree with the calls for him to go or not, just saying it's a golden opportunity for NT should they wish to avail of it.

That's one big conspiracy theory you've got going there.

wnolan1992 · 12-09-2017 05:29PM

pilly wrote: »

That's one big conspiracy theory you've got going there.

That's not what I was going for.

I don't think NT would have wanted it to go this way, but the opportunity is there for them to take advantage of should they wish to.

DeanAustin · 12-09-2017 05:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is insane. There is nothing wrong with suggesting that people need to do what they can to avoid dangerous situations.

It is NOT saying that people deserve what they get but an acknowledgement that there are predators out there who are completely sick in the head, and look at regular people as targets/victims. It would be like saying "I can walk where I like" when advised to not walk down the dark alley way late at night in a dodgy part of town.

I'm 6'1" and 250lbs and there are areas of cities I will not walk through alone, at night, drunk etc. You know why? Because there are dangerous people out there and I need to protect myself and not make myself an easy target. If I do walk down there and get attacked does not make it my fault that it happened but I did not minimise my risk.

If it was a slot about any other physical attack (as opposed to rape) there would be no uproar.

I'm amazed by the vitriol and hysteria. Agree or not with Hook but he was putting across a point of view many people evidently hold.

The thought police acting hysterically about this won't be happy until everyone's view of the world is the same.

It'll be a disgrace if he's forced off air but his position is starting to become untenable.

Loafing Oaf · 12-09-2017 05:38PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

This entire saga is a bit of a get out of jail free card for NT.

Hook's figures have been falling on lunchtimes I believe. This is their opportunity to give him the boot and come out of it with positive PR.

And replace him with who? Bring back Jonathan Healy or Eamon Keane? I'm sure they'd have listenership in the stratosphere. Hook, Yates and Kenny are NT's only names: getting rid of any of them would leave a massive hole in the schedule...

quintana76 · 12-09-2017 05:48PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

And replace him with who? Bring back Jonathan Healy or Eamon Keane? I'm sure they'd have listenership in the stratosphere. Hook, Yates and Kenny are NT's only names: getting rid of any of them would leave a massive hole in the schedule...

I demand Chris Donoghue. 'Brilliant' presenter. Wonder how the ratings would fare?

jooksavage · 12-09-2017 05:51PM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

That's not what I was going for.

I don't think NT would have wanted it to go this way, but the opportunity is there for them to take advantage of should they wish to.

Hook couldn't have picked a worse time to deliver Friday's bit of soapboxery, NT have been under pressure because of their gender imbalance for some time and sarah mcinerney has only just been relegated to weekend dead air. It definitely has an image problem which means the potential for a sponsorship problem. Newstalk have the potential to salvage something of a corporate image here. The way they've handled the staff letter already gives the impression, rightly or wrongly, that senior management are at least responsive to the concerns of their staff (I recall a similar letter being drafted by our department in a previous company and watching as the CTO read it, tore it up and told us to go back to work).

tsue921i8wljb3 · 12-09-2017 05:52PM

If 20 of your colleagues are asking for your dismissal I think it's time to look in the mirror and say "maybe it's me, not them". Perhaps Hook's shtick since starting High Noon has been grating on them and this is the end result of their frustration.

bottlebrush · 12-09-2017 05:59PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

And replace him with who? Bring back Jonathan Healy or Eamon Keane? I'm sure they'd have listenership in the stratosphere. Hook, Yates and Kenny are NT's only names: getting rid of any of them would leave a massive hole in the schedule...

Hook Kenny and Yates are the only three I listen to. Couldn't be bothered tuning into any of the rest of them.

RustyNut · 12-09-2017 06:09PM

Lt Dan wrote: »

Each staff member should be named

Why?

Del.Monte · 12-09-2017 06:15PM

Maximiliano Weak Guava wrote: »

If 20 of your colleagues are asking for your dismissal I think it's time to look in the mirror and say "maybe it's me, not them". Perhaps Hook's shtick since starting High Noon has been grating on them and this is the end result of their frustration.

Twenty gutless little weasels.

Ursus Horribilis · 12-09-2017 06:21PM

Maximiliano Weak Guava wrote: »

If 20 of your colleagues are asking for your dismissal I think it's time to look in the mirror and say "maybe it's me, not them". Perhaps Hook's shtick since starting High Noon has been grating on them and this is the end result of their frustration.

Something tells me this has been been going on for longer than that. If he's not well liked in there (I've no idea what his colleagues think of him) then this is an ideal opportunity to knife him. The controversy isn't going away and we can all see what way this is going to end.

RustyNut · 12-09-2017 06:23PM

Del.Monte wrote: »

Twenty gutless little weasels.

For standing up for what they believe in?

High Noon with George Hook.

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