Christian parents 'to sue school' coz boy in son's class was allowed to wear dress

Red_Wake · 11-09-2017 04:48PM

A strict school uniform regime would've nipped this in the bud.

The_Valeyard · 11-09-2017 04:48PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

If your are a very religious parent a school today is not the place for your child to attend.

Well that's pure BS

Gravelly · 11-09-2017 04:51PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

All this "suspecting" seems to be based on your own biases and suspicions rather than actual facts.

True, but I can only go on the information in the article, and what has been published about similar cases.

fatknacker · 11-09-2017 04:51PM

I bet the homeschooled kids will turn out odder than the lad who wants to wear dresses.

Boom_Bap · 11-09-2017 04:52PM

fatknacker wrote: »

I bet the homeschooled kids will turn out odder than the lad who wants to wear dresses.

Perhaps as odd as their parents

GhostyMcGhost · 11-09-2017 04:54PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Think these parents have got the wrong end of the stick.

Yeah and they should be bashed on the noggin with the other end of it

murphthesmurf · 11-09-2017 05:00PM

Stop the World, I want to get off.
The religious and the far left liberals, I can't decide who I hate the most.

11-09-2017 05:00PM

I don't see what being Christian has to do with it. They claim to have biblical beliefs. All the men in the bible wore dresses. Or at least the male equivalent of a dress. I could understand them not wanting to see a boy in a dress but what has it to do with the bible?

11-09-2017 05:03PM

Plenty of girls in school wearing pants. Maybe they are identifying with being a boy.

Also bringing a child up a Christian is brainwashing in a way

johnnyskeleton · 11-09-2017 05:04PM

Jesus wore a skirt. Well, a loincloth, but still

super_furry · 11-09-2017 05:05PM

fatknacker wrote: »

I bet the homeschooled kids will turn out odder than the lad who wants to wear dresses.

What until puberty hits and they start fancying their teacher.

fatknacker · 11-09-2017 05:06PM

He should try wearing a hijab too, while he's at it.

11-09-2017 05:09PM

I mean, historically men wore skirts/dresses well up until modern history. Hell, high heels were an invention for men up until the 1900's, I believe.

Was it not a tradition in our own country up until the 20th century for young boys to wear skirts until they were given their first pair of long pants?

Edit - yes, it was called Breeching.

If a kid wants to wear a dress, let 'em wear a dress.

meeeeh · 11-09-2017 05:10PM

As long as he was wearing the right type of black shoes it shouldn't be a problem...

I feel for the two kids who were taken out of school, they will have no reprieve from psycho influence now.

11-09-2017 05:12PM

DickSwiveller wrote: »

I think it is important to oppose the brainwashing of children by nutjobs. That is important.

I assume you're talking about the children's parents? They do sound like absolute nutjobs.

TheIrishGrover · 11-09-2017 05:23PM

I'm not going to refer to the troll above (And he is a troll folks, don't feed the trolls) but one of the main issues I have with this type of people is the whole abuse of religion to legitimize their own prejudices and their hijacking of religion in general. All you hear from them is "I'm a Christian" Well, you know what? I was raised Christian. So was 95% of my generation in Ireland. I was raised Catholic. Of the other 5% it was ALSO mainly Christian: Church of Ireland.

What they MEAN to say is: "I'm a Born Again Christian" but by just saying "Christian" they are implying that they are a purer form of Christian than Catholic or Anglician or any other Christian religion"

I saw this story earlier. Read the first paragraph (Different website) and though "Fair enough, that's their own belief. Narrow-minded and distasteful in my opinion but I'm not going to force my opinion on them. I do feel for the kids because they are being sheltered from the real world but hey"
Then the next paragraph: They are suing and pressing charges. Obviously respect for others is not......."Christian"

Gravelly · 11-09-2017 05:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I assume you're talking about the children's parents? They do sound like absolute nutjobs.

Both sets of parents are beholden to an ideology. The parents who persuade their son to wear a dress are the modern equivalent of the 1950's Irish parents that persuaded their son he had a calling for the priesthood. In both cases it is done because they wanted to look virtuous in the eyes of those who share their ideology. And in both cases it is likely to end in an unhappy life for the child.

Tom Mann Centuria · 11-09-2017 05:27PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Both sets of parents are beholden to an ideology. The parents who persuade their son to wear a dress are the modern equivalent of the 1950's Irish parents that persuaded their son he had a calling for the priesthood. In both cases it is done because they wanted to look virtuous in the eyes of those who share their ideology. And in both cases it is likely to end in an unhappy life for the child.

Agree completely. Kids are pawns in this.

osarusan · 11-09-2017 05:31PM

Is there any evidence whatsoever that the boy wearing the dress is doing so at the behest of or persuasion of the parents, rather than them accepting his wishes?

Boom_Bap · 11-09-2017 05:31PM

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

I'm not going to refer to the troll above (And he is a troll folks, don't feed the trolls) but one of the main issues I have with this type of people is the whole abuse of religion to legitimize their own prejudices and their hijacking of religion in general. All you hear from them is "I'm a Christian" Well, you know what? I was raised Christian. So was 95% of my generation in Ireland. I was raised Catholic. Of the other 5% it was ALSO mainly Christian: Church of Ireland.

What they MEAN to say is: "I'm a Born Again Christian" but by just saying "Christian" they are implying that they are a purer form of Christian than Catholic or Anglician or any other Christian religion"

I saw this story earlier. Read the first paragraph (Different website) and though "Fair enough, that's their own belief. Narrow-minded and distasteful in my opinion but I'm not going to force my opinion on them. I do feel for the kids because they are being sheltered from the real world but hey"
Then the next paragraph: They are suing and pressing charges. Obviously respect for others is not......."Christian"

Report trolls, don't air it out on thread please

Red_Wake · 11-09-2017 05:32PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Deleted User wrote: »

I assume you're talking about the children's parents? They do sound like absolute nutjobs.

Both sets of parents are beholden to an ideology. The parents who persuade their son to wear a dress are the modern equivalent of the 1950's Irish parents that persuaded their son he had a calling for the priesthood. In both cases it is done because they wanted to look virtuous in the eyes of those who share their ideology. And in both cases it is likely to end in an unhappy life for the child.

Arguably it's more damaging - one can leave the priesthood without any long lasting effects.

If one were to undergo gender reassignment surgery[especially at that age] and its attendant hormonal treatment, the effects are longer lasting, and more difficult to reverse.

And that's before adding the complication of doing it before/during puberty, undermining the hormonal process by which a child becomes adult.

mzungu · 11-09-2017 05:36PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Both sets of parents are beholden to an ideology. The parents who persuade their son to wear a dress are the modern equivalent of the 1950's Irish parents that persuaded their son he had a calling for the priesthood. In both cases it is done because they wanted to look virtuous in the eyes of those who share their ideology. And in both cases it is likely to end in an unhappy life for the child.

We only know that one set of parents are bounded by ideology, that being their religious beliefs. The parents of the transgender child may not be ideologues, we don't know. It might just be the case that their child has gender dysphoria and they did what they thought was best from there.

11-09-2017 05:47PM

Gravelly wrote: »

"Transgender children" appear to be the new must-have accessory for the virtue-signalling parent.

Jesus fúcking Christ.

Why would a parent try to brainwash their child into believing they're the wrong gender? Do you honestly believe that to be more likely than parents simply allowing a child to wear what they want and figure out their identity by themselves in their own time? Ffs. :rolleyes:

Cee-Jay-Cee · 11-09-2017 05:55PM

You can sue anyone you want for anything you like, it doesn't mean that you are going to succeed in even having the case listed, let alone heard.

I am going to sue the parents of that boy because I became so enraged at their sheer ignorance and stupidity that I smashed my computer monitor, injuring my hand.

I probably have more chance of success than they do.

fatknacker · 11-09-2017 05:57PM

Maybe the kid just wants to wear skirts/dresses. Not because he "identifies" with being a girl. He might just like wearin them. To him they're just clothes. No need to pathologise everything.

Gravelly · 11-09-2017 06:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus fúcking Christ.

Why would a parent try to brainwash their child into believing they're the wrong gender? Do you honestly believe that to be more likely than parents simply allowing a child to wear what they want and figure out their identity by themselves in their own time? Ffs. :rolleyes:

Do I think it likely a 6 year old boy really wants to wear a dress to school because he is "figuring out his identity"? No, I don't think that's likely at all.

I think it's more likely mommy and/or daddy spends too much time on Twitter and thinks because little Johnny picked up a doll in the toyshop that it's really little Joanna trapped in the wrong body, and little Joanna needs to wear a dress to school so all the other parents are in no doubt about how progressive mommy and daddy are.

Brian? · 11-09-2017 06:02PM

Sleepy wrote: »

I hope that their lawyers are very, very expensive.

And that they lose the case.

Unfortunately some sort of conservative Christian think thank is probably picking up the tab. It happens all the time in the US.

Brian? · 11-09-2017 06:05PM

Gravelly wrote: »

Do I think it likely a 6 year old boy really wants to wear a dress to school because he is "figuring out his identity"? No, I don't think that's likely at all.

I think it's more likely mommy and/or daddy spends too much time on Twitter and thinks because little Johnny picked up a doll in the toyshop that it's really little Joanna trapped in the wrong body, and little Joanna needs to wear a dress to school so all the other parents are in no doubt about how progressive mommy and daddy are.

I think it shouldn't matter a **** what the child wears to school.

If my young fella decides he wants to wear a dress to school, my only stipulations will be that he shaves his legs and his shoes match his bag. I'm not having my son laughed at.

Gravelly · 11-09-2017 06:07PM

Brian? wrote: »

I think it shouldn't matter a **** what the child wears to school.

If my young fella decides he wants to wear a dress to school, my only stipulations will be that he shaves his legs and his shoes match his bag. I'm not having my son laughed at.

Poor kid - if and when he figures out either that he was just going through a phase, or he was brainwashed by the parents (hopefully before they've had time to book him in for an operation) he can go back to being a boy again, but in this age of camera phones and social media, the evidence of his humiliation will haunt him forever.

_Whimsical_ · 11-09-2017 06:11PM

They did clarify on the news this evening that they aren't actually suing anyone, they're just bringing it before the board of governors or something of that magnitude. They didn't look at all prepared for speaking on TV, they both came across as a bit wooly about what the problem was and what they wanted. They definitely weren't coming across as anti transgender anyway, they are more just questioning the wisdom of allowing children of 6,7,8 to be allowed to make these decisions and then live with the consequences. They weren't doing a good job of it anyway. It didn't look like a more widely orchestrated campaign.

Christian parents 'to sue school' coz boy in son's class was allowed to wear dress

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