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Christian parents 'to sue school' coz boy in son's class was allowed to wear dress

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    What were the odds of boys in both of their kid's classes coming in to school wearing dresses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,337 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    What were the odds of boys in both of their kid's classes coming in to school wearing dresses?

    Could be a few Arabs in the school?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Wombatman wrote: »
    A Christian couple are reportedly threatening to sue a Church of England primary school because it allowed a boy in their son's class to wear a dress.

    The family withdrew the six-year-old from the school and will now educate him at home, alongside his eight-year-old brother, who was taken out of school a year ago after a boy in his class also began to wear dresses.

    http://www.independent.ie/life/family/parenting/christian-parents-to-sue-school-because-boy-in-sons-class-was-allowed-to-wear-dress-36120146.html
    The child is there to learn and what other pupils wear is no concern of that boys parents. Plus, a school is there to educate and this has zero impact on the standard of education. Total overreaction. If the child is "ill and stressed" it is because of his parents making a big drama about things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I hope that their lawyers are very, very expensive.

    And that they lose the case.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    I'd say the boys in the younger ones class drew straws to see who would put on the dress to get rid of that Bible bashers son. What a crock of crap.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    At 8 years old, the child probably still believes in Santa Clause, suspicious about the Easter Bunny, confident about the tooth fairy and lets their life decisions revolve around their XBox.

    They do not give a f*ck about what anyone is wearing unless its a fat man in a red suit.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Wombatman wrote: »
    Could be a few Arabs in the school?

    Or priests.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    So a 6 year old boy was identifying as a girl and wearing a dress to school?

    This story is a crock. Surely it is against the law to allow a child whose mind is not fully developed to undertake transition.

    Think these parents have got the wrong end of the stick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,314 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    So a 6 year old boy was identifying as a girl and wearing a dress to school?

    This story is a crock. Surely it is against the law to allow a child whose mind is not fully developed to undertake transition.

    Think these parents have got the wrong end of the stick.

    No law against it, as far as I know


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    The school should not be mainstreaming delusion, and therefore the boy should not be allowed to wear a dress. Fair play to the Christians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Imagine this being your biggest problem in life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    anna080 wrote: »
    Imagine this being your biggest problem in life.

    I think it is important to oppose the brainwashing of children by nutjobs. That is important.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    The school should not be mainstreaming delusion, and therefore the boy should not be allowed to wear a dress. Fair play to the Christians.

    I'd say both sets of parents are using their kids in ideological battles personally. The child who now identifies as a girl could still do so in trousers, I believe women wear them these days, and the Christians parents could allow the child to be geting on with their school day.

    Some would also say the Christians are as delusional.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    The school should not be mainstreaming delusion, and therefore the boy should not be allowed to wear a dress. Fair play to the Christians.

    If the kid wants to wear a dress honestly who gives a ****.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    If the kid wants to wear a dress honestly who gives a ****.

    Me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    At 8 years old, the child probably still believes in Santa Clause, suspicious about the Easter Bunny, confident about the tooth fairy and lets their life decisions revolve around their XBox.

    They do not give a f*ck about what anyone is wearing unless its a fat man in a red suit.

    Wow, someone doesn't like video games!!! Lol.


    But these parents sound like dicks. Poor kids, it's always the parents fault for pushing their "Christian" views on their children. Who gives a **** what other kids wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Is there nothing to be said for normality and cop on anymore?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    Wow, someone doesn't like video games!!! Lol.


    But these parents sound like dicks. Poor kids, it's always the parents fault for pushing their "Christian" views on their children. Who gives a **** what other kids wear.

    Yes, I'm sure the boy in the dress hasn't had any views pushed on him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    I'm not sure who's worse the christian parents for taking their kids out of school because of the boy wearing a dress or the boys parents for allowing him to wear a dress.Both sets of parents seem like nut jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Me.

    Does it affect your sense of self that a child can do this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭stevedublin


    Wow, someone doesn't like video games!!!

    Its forbidden to not like video games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Me.

    How sad for you that a 6 year old's sartorial decisions have such an effect on you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,697 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller


    kylith wrote: »
    How sad for you that a 6 year old's sartorial decisions have such an effect on you.

    Are you sure it's his decision?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    kylith wrote: »
    How sad for you that a 6 year old's sartorial decisions have such an effect on you.

    I very much doubt that it's a sartorial decision, or that it was the child's own decision.

    The child who "identifies as a girl" is even more of a victim than the christian child, as the christian child can opt out of christianity in adulthood if he so wishes - if, as I suspect will be the case, the "transgender" child continues to be brainwashed to the point of medical intervention, then it will be very difficult for them to reverse later in life. "Transgender children" appear to be the new must-have accessory for the virtue-signalling parent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    If your are a very religious parent a school today is not the place for your child to attend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    If your are a very religious parent a school today is not the place for your child to attend.

    But a Church of England school would be a better bet than a secular school, of which there are loads in the UK.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Gravelly wrote: »
    I very much doubt that it's a sartorial decision, or that it was the child's own decision.

    The child who "identifies as a girl" is even more of a victim than the christian child, as the christian child can opt out of christianity in adulthood if he so wishes - if, as I suspect will be the case, the "transgender" child continues to be brainwashed to the point of medical intervention, then it will be very difficult for them to reverse later in life. "Transgender children" appear to be the new must-have accessory for the virtue-signalling parent.

    All this "suspecting" seems to be based on your own biases and suspicions rather than actual facts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    All this "suspecting" seems to be based on your own biases and suspicions rather than actual facts.

    We're all just "suspecting" based on a newspaper article and short tv interview.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    A strict school uniform regime would've nipped this in the bud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    If your are a very religious parent a school today is not the place for your child to attend.

    Well that's pure BS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    All this "suspecting" seems to be based on your own biases and suspicions rather than actual facts.

    True, but I can only go on the information in the article, and what has been published about similar cases.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    I bet the homeschooled kids will turn out odder than the lad who wants to wear dresses.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    fatknacker wrote: »
    I bet the homeschooled kids will turn out odder than the lad who wants to wear dresses.

    Perhaps as odd as their parents


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    Think these parents have got the wrong end of the stick.

    Yeah and they should be bashed on the noggin with the other end of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭murphthesmurf


    Stop the World, I want to get off.
    The religious and the far left liberals, I can't decide who I hate the most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I don't see what being Christian has to do with it. They claim to have biblical beliefs. All the men in the bible wore dresses. Or at least the male equivalent of a dress. I could understand them not wanting to see a boy in a dress but what has it to do with the bible?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Plenty of girls in school wearing pants. Maybe they are identifying with being a boy.

    Also bringing a child up a Christian is brainwashing in a way


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Jesus wore a skirt. Well, a loincloth, but still


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    fatknacker wrote: »
    I bet the homeschooled kids will turn out odder than the lad who wants to wear dresses.

    What until puberty hits and they start fancying their teacher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    He should try wearing a hijab too, while he's at it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I mean, historically men wore skirts/dresses well up until modern history. Hell, high heels were an invention for men up until the 1900's, I believe.

    Was it not a tradition in our own country up until the 20th century for young boys to wear skirts until they were given their first pair of long pants?

    Edit - yes, it was called Breeching.

    If a kid wants to wear a dress, let 'em wear a dress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    As long as he was wearing the right type of black shoes it shouldn't be a problem... :D

    I feel for the two kids who were taken out of school, they will have no reprieve from psycho influence now.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think it is important to oppose the brainwashing of children by nutjobs. That is important.

    I assume you're talking about the children's parents? They do sound like absolute nutjobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,217 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    I'm not going to refer to the troll above (And he is a troll folks, don't feed the trolls) but one of the main issues I have with this type of people is the whole abuse of religion to legitimize their own prejudices and their hijacking of religion in general. All you hear from them is "I'm a Christian" Well, you know what? I was raised Christian. So was 95% of my generation in Ireland. I was raised Catholic. Of the other 5% it was ALSO mainly Christian: Church of Ireland.

    What they MEAN to say is: "I'm a Born Again Christian" but by just saying "Christian" they are implying that they are a purer form of Christian than Catholic or Anglician or any other Christian religion"

    I saw this story earlier. Read the first paragraph (Different website) and though "Fair enough, that's their own belief. Narrow-minded and distasteful in my opinion but I'm not going to force my opinion on them. I do feel for the kids because they are being sheltered from the real world but hey"
    Then the next paragraph: They are suing and pressing charges. Obviously respect for others is not......."Christian"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    I assume you're talking about the children's parents? They do sound like absolute nutjobs.

    Both sets of parents are beholden to an ideology. The parents who persuade their son to wear a dress are the modern equivalent of the 1950's Irish parents that persuaded their son he had a calling for the priesthood. In both cases it is done because they wanted to look virtuous in the eyes of those who share their ideology. And in both cases it is likely to end in an unhappy life for the child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Both sets of parents are beholden to an ideology. The parents who persuade their son to wear a dress are the modern equivalent of the 1950's Irish parents that persuaded their son he had a calling for the priesthood. In both cases it is done because they wanted to look virtuous in the eyes of those who share their ideology. And in both cases it is likely to end in an unhappy life for the child.

    Agree completely. Kids are pawns in this.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,734 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Is there any evidence whatsoever that the boy wearing the dress is doing so at the behest of or persuasion of the parents, rather than them accepting his wishes?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I'm not going to refer to the troll above (And he is a troll folks, don't feed the trolls) but one of the main issues I have with this type of people is the whole abuse of religion to legitimize their own prejudices and their hijacking of religion in general. All you hear from them is "I'm a Christian" Well, you know what? I was raised Christian. So was 95% of my generation in Ireland. I was raised Catholic. Of the other 5% it was ALSO mainly Christian: Church of Ireland.

    What they MEAN to say is: "I'm a Born Again Christian" but by just saying "Christian" they are implying that they are a purer form of Christian than Catholic or Anglician or any other Christian religion"

    I saw this story earlier. Read the first paragraph (Different website) and though "Fair enough, that's their own belief. Narrow-minded and distasteful in my opinion but I'm not going to force my opinion on them. I do feel for the kids because they are being sheltered from the real world but hey"
    Then the next paragraph: They are suing and pressing charges. Obviously respect for others is not......."Christian"

    Report trolls, don't air it out on thread please


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