Freesat & Saorview

breffnij · 11-09-2017 09:55AM #1

Hi,

I have a satellite dish that currently gathers freesat only.

I want both saorview & freesat. Does my dish just need realignment and then I need to purchase a combi box or do I need additional wiring etc?

I currently have 6 feeds from the dish going to a central point in the house which then connects to various rooms.

Thanks

bappelbe · 11-09-2017 10:12AM

You will need a terrestrial aerial to get the saorview signal, which will need to be wired to your combi box.
you cannot get it through your satellite dish. see:
https://www.saorview.ie/en/get

There is a possibility of getting saorsat with your dish, but this does not have all the channels that saorview has, this is also quite complicated to set up as you need to be looking at 2 satellites a that are far apart from each other in the sky.

The Cush · 11-09-2017 10:23AM

https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage

Identify here which Saorview transmitter covers your location and this will indicate which grouped aerial will be required.

How many co-ax cables do you have to each TV point? The Saorview signal can be piggy-backed on a satellite cable and split at the TV point if required.

Terrestrial receiver required, be it a TV with a Saorview tuner, Saorview box or a combi box. This Saorview PVR has twin tuners for recording - https://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-23-WP6500

If you already a Freesat box a combi wouldn't be required.

breffnij · 11-09-2017 10:42AM

The Cush wrote: »

https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage

Identify here which Saorview transmitter covers your location and this will indicate which grouped aerial will be required.

How many co-ax cables do you have to each TV point? The Saorview signal can be piggy-backed on a satellite cable and split at the TV point if required.

Terrestrial receiver required, be it a TV with a Saorview tuner, Saorview box or a combi box. This Saorview PVR has twin tuners for recording - https://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-23-WP6500

If you already a Freesat box a combi wouldn't be required.

My transmitter details are:
SITEINFORMATION
Site:KIPPURE
Site On-Air:Yes
Channels: 54, 58

AERIALINFORMATION
Polarization:H
Direction to:
point (degrees)South (181)
Distance: 28 km

I have two co-ax at each tv point. I've smart tv's with inbuilt saorview so was only getting combi box for ease but if i can avoid it i will.

If possible i'd prefer to use existing cables if that is an option...

The Cush · 11-09-2017 11:22AM

Group T wideband for that transmitter - http://www.freetv.ie/black-wide-band-uhf-aerial/

Do you require both cables to each TV point to carry the satellite signals or will one cable suffice, i.e. do you have a twin tuner satellite recorder at each TV point?

If only one cable is required a distribution amp at the central point will feed each TV point.

If both cables are used a sat/terrestrial diplexer can be used to combine the satellite and terrestrial signals down a single cable with a diplexer or diplexer faceplate at the TV end to split the signals again before going into each receiver
Diplexer - http://www.freetv.ie/tv-aerial-and-satellite-combiner/
Faceplate - http://www.freetv.ie/wolsey-tv-aerial-and-satellite-wall-plate/, http://vision-products.co.uk.web17.testurl.co.uk/?page_id=1297

The next option would be a multiswitch which combines both terrestrial and satellite signals down each cable which can be split at the TV end as described above. A new Quattro LNB would be required on the dish and 4 of the existing cables to the multiswitch.
http://www.freetv.ie/satellite/distribution/multi-switches/

breffnij · 11-09-2017 11:27AM

The Cush wrote: »

Group T wideband for that transmitter - http://www.freetv.ie/black-wide-band-uhf-aerial/

Do you require both cables to each TV point to carry the satellite signals or will one cable suffice, i.e. do you have a twin tuner satellite recorder at each TV point?

If only one cable is required a distribution amp at the central point will feed each TV point.

If both cables are used a sat/terrestrial diplexer can be used to combine the satellite and terrestrial signals down a single cable with a diplexer or diplexer faceplate at the TV end to split the signals again before going into each receiver
Diplexer - http://www.freetv.ie/tv-aerial-and-satellite-combiner/
Faceplate - http://www.freetv.ie/wolsey-tv-aerial-and-satellite-wall-plate/, http://vision-products.co.uk.web17.testurl.co.uk/?page_id=1297

The next option would be a multiswitch which combines both terrestrial and satellite signals down each cable which can be split at the TV end as described above. A new Quattro LNB would be required on the dish and 4 of the existing cables to the multiswitch.
http://www.freetv.ie/satellite/distribution/multi-switches/

.....anyone want to come & price the job!!

Dish used for skyboxes (fs5 & v8) which are the ones I have. Everything set up for this if of any help.

The Cush · 11-09-2017 01:08PM

breffnij wrote: »

Dish used for skyboxes (fs5 & v8) which are the ones I have. Everything set up for this if of any help.

How many cables into each box?

breffnij · 11-09-2017 01:50PM

The Cush wrote: »

How many cables into each box?

Will the boxes support both saorview & freesat? I didn't think they would.

Here is the box for what its worth. if not compatible I could plug on ariel into the tv and tune saorview to that and the other ariel into openbox??

I'll a bit clueless to to be fair!

The Cush · 11-09-2017 02:02PM

You didn't answer my previous question, do both coax cables go into the boxes?

The box is a free-to-air satellite receiver, not Freesat, and doesn't appear to be a combi satellite / terrestrial receiver, it doesn't have the correct coax plug for an aerial.

breffnij · 11-09-2017 02:30PM

The Cush wrote: »

You didn't answer my previous question, do both coax cables go into the boxes?

No. Just one cable goes into the box from the satellite.

The Cush wrote: »

The box is a free-to-air satellite receiver, not Freesat, and doesn't appear to be a combi satellite / terrestrial receiver, it doesn't have the correct coax plug for an aerial.

I figured this. Could I still use this as I currently am and then have a second cable going to the other co-ax at tv which I can plug directly into the TV and use its inbuilt tuner to pick up saorview??

Excuse ignorance on this if I am making no sense.

The Cush · 11-09-2017 02:57PM

breffnij wrote: »

Could I still use this as I currently am and then have a second cable going to the other co-ax at tv which I can plug directly into the TV and use its inbuilt tuner to pick up saorview??

Excuse ignorance on this if I am making no sense.

Perfect sense. Yes, you can.

Kippure is a fairly high power transmitter and if I were you I'd test an aerial in the attic, pointing roughly in the direction of the transmitter.

Run a coax cable from the aerial into a distribution amp. Connect the spare drop cables to the amp and test.

If it doesn't work get an installer to mount the aerial outside.

breffnij · 11-09-2017 03:38PM

The Cush wrote: »

Perfect sense. Yes, you can.

Kippure is a fairly high power transmitter and if I were you I'd test an aerial in the attic, pointing roughly in the direction of the transmitter.

Run a coax cable from the aerial into a distribution amp. Connect the spare drop cables to the amp and test.

If it doesn't work get an installer to mount the aerial outside.

You might as well as me to learn Latin or worse....bake a cake!

Cheers though. I'll start calling around.

Freesat & Saorview

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