Garda Commissioner Noirin O'Sullivan announces retirement

snowflaker · 10-09-2017 07:47PM

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/906922460817379328

Donal55 · 10-09-2017 07:49PM

Uriel. wrote: »

I don't see where gender comes into at all tbh.

The AG was a woman too, and Francis Fitz, Minister for Justice, yep, they're to blame.

emo72 · 10-09-2017 07:52PM

I asked in the other thread. Will she still be giving evidence at the McCabe inquiry?

uck51js9zml2yt · 10-09-2017 07:53PM

emo72 wrote: »

I asked in the other thread. Will she still be giving evidence at the McCabe inquiry?

As a private citizen she's under no obligation to do so.

Mycroft H · 10-09-2017 07:55PM

emo72 wrote: »

I asked in the other thread. Will she still be giving evidence at the McCabe inquiry?

I presume she could still be compelled to give evidence.

Uriel. · 10-09-2017 07:56PM

keith_sixteen wrote: »

LOL, and you think the commissioner just happened to retire?

No I don't, but that's irrelevant unless news breaks that leo varadkar or some other member of government paid her visit and told her to get out.

So, I'll indulge you for a moment more, when do you think Leo will be making the trip to the Áras?

Uriel. · 10-09-2017 07:57PM

Nettle Soup wrote: »

She gets a massive pension just like many other failed public servants and politicians e.g. John Tierney, Bertie, Cowen etc

Bertie wasn't a failure though, at least not in political terms

Uriel. · 10-09-2017 07:59PM

snowflaker wrote: »

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/906922460817379328

The most troublesome thing about that is the use of the word "guard"

snowflaker · 10-09-2017 07:59PM

Uriel. wrote: »

Bertie wasn't a failure though, at least not in political terms

Really??? He had to resign from Tribunal fallout. The country was almost insolvent!

snowflaker · 10-09-2017 07:59PM

Uriel. wrote: »

The most troublesome thing about that is the use of the word "guard"

Yes, its Garda!

keith_sixteen · 10-09-2017 08:01PM

Uriel. wrote: »

So, I'll indulge you for a moment more, when do you think Leo will be making the trip to the Áras?

I never said it would trigger an election. To have the possibility dismissed out of hand however is somewhat naive.

I find it absolutely bizarre that this woman dug her heels in in the face of outrageous things happening in her force. To retire, now...so suddenly....I think there is more news coming...

Uriel. · 10-09-2017 08:02PM

Donal55 wrote: »

The AG was a woman too, and Francis Fitz, Minister for Justice, yep, they're to blame.

So is the DPP and the CS and so was the chief justice until recently.

Needs Must · 10-09-2017 08:02PM

Bertie not a failure?? He was a gangster, end of. Him and Charlie both deserve no thanks or respect for what they did to the country.

RustyNut · 10-09-2017 08:03PM

I wonder how many bags of documents she's shredding right now. I'd say the shredder is smoking.

Allinall · 10-09-2017 08:13PM

keith_sixteen wrote: »

I never said it would trigger an election. To have the possibility dismissed out of hand however is somewhat naive.

I find it absolutely bizarre that this woman dug her heels in in the face of outrageous things happening in her force. To retire, now...so suddenly....I think there is more news coming...

Id be fascinated to know how she could retire and it not be "so suddenly".

snowflaker · 10-09-2017 08:14PM

RustyNut wrote: »

I wonder how many bags of documents she's shredding right now. I'd say the shredder is smoking.

Throw in the SIM cards lads!!!

snowflaker · 10-09-2017 08:22PM

I'd say the Garda WhatsApp will be buzzing tonight!

Beechwoodspark · 10-09-2017 08:25PM

Last week some reports hinted that there are worse revelations to come so id say noreen decided to call it quits and get the f out of dodge

FixdePitchmark · 10-09-2017 08:25PM

Now that there will be no one in charge from midnight - they should do something mad, like enter accurate data , report real crimes, and charge actual criminals - and mad stuff like that........

snowflaker · 10-09-2017 08:26PM

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Now that there will be no one in charge from midnight - they should do something mad, like enter accurate data , report real crimes, and charge actual criminals - and mad stuff like that........

The assisnt commis will be in charge

FixdePitchmark · 10-09-2017 08:28PM

snowflaker wrote: »

The assisnt commis will be in charge

I'm joking.

keith_sixteen · 10-09-2017 08:28PM

Allinall wrote: »

Id be fascinated to know how she could retire and it not be "so suddenly".

Fascinated? Wow. You can't make that little leap and understand scenarios where people in long standing positions retire at an expected age is not "sudden"?

Ally Dick · 10-09-2017 08:41PM

Nothing will change. The gardai as a unit are hopeless, regardless of whom they put in charge. They only care about protecting incomes and conditions. They have been extremely lazy for many years now.

Ace2007 · 10-09-2017 08:51PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Last week some reports hinted that there are worse revelations to come so id say noreen decided to call it quits and get the f out of dodge

And yet it hasn't come out yet - some anti - government individual is sitting on it waiting for the perfect opportunity to release it - just like the latest scandal came out after she came back from holidays - coincidence - I think not.

Guarantee you that whenever the next person is appointed, something will be dug up and then we'll attack the government again.

4ensic15 · 10-09-2017 08:53PM

Send for the Provost Martial and staff!

Potential-Monke · 10-09-2017 08:53PM

It's nice to be reading these threads now that I'm an ex-Garda. Gives a slightly different perspective on things. And the comments here say a lot about what people think AGS is. Again, blaming every Garda for the actions of a few. And it is just a few, when you consider there are over 10,000 Gardai. Part of the reason i left (I had many).

As for her leaving, she came in with great intentions, and had some of us fooled, but she quickly fell into the usual trap of keeping the politicians and 'important' people happy. I'm sure her job wasn't the easiest, and she touched on that by saying she wanted to make changes, but didn't have the time due to all these cases and whatnot before the courts/committees/etc.

Also, being the Commissioner, it's not easy. You have to be extremely careful about what you say, as a seemingly innocent single word or sentence can be used against you down the line. Not defending her, but i'm sure she didn't have it too easy, plus the actual golden pension she's getting (remember, Garda rank do NOT get golden pensions, they get pretty good ones, but far from golden).

I'm not defending her, she had great intent but didn't act on it. No harm, no loss. But what will be next.....

rangler1 · 10-09-2017 08:57PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

And yet it hasn't come out yet - some anti - government individual is sitting on it waiting for the perfect opportunity to release it - just like the latest scandal came out after she came back from holidays - coincidence - I think not.

Guarantee you that whenever the next person is appointed, something will be dug up and then we'll attack the government again.

Public service apologising for one scandal while they're creating another, hasn't it always been the way.
Has anyone ever lost a job over any scandal they were responsible for in the PS.
There's no doubt we're enjoying the best democracy that money can buy:D

Ace2007 · 10-09-2017 09:02PM

rangler1 wrote: »

Public service apologising for one scandal while they're creating another, hasn't it always been the way.
Has anyone ever lost a job over any scandal they were responsible for in the PS.
There's no doubt we're enjoying the best democracy that money can buy:D

Sure isn't that the reason why people stay in PS - never get sacked, and get a DB pension for life, which is fairly non-existent in the private sector now.

Donal55 · 10-09-2017 09:03PM

Potential-Monke wrote: »

It's nice to be reading these threads now that I'm an ex-Garda. Gives a slightly different perspective on things. And the comments here say a lot about what people think AGS is. Again, blaming every Garda for the actions of a few. And it is just a few, when you consider there are over 10,000 Gardai. Part of the reason i left (I had many).

As for her leaving, she came in with great intentions, and had some of us fooled, but she quickly fell into the usual trap of keeping the politicians and 'important' people happy. I'm sure her job wasn't the easiest, and she touched on that by saying she wanted to make changes, but didn't have the time due to all these cases and whatnot before the courts/committees/etc.

Also, being the Commissioner, it's not easy. You have to be extremely careful about what you say, as a seemingly innocent single word or sentence can be used against you down the line. Not defending her, but i'm sure she didn't have it too easy, plus the actual golden pension she's getting (remember, Garda rank do NOT get golden pensions, they get pretty good ones, but far from golden).

I'm not defending her, she had great intent but didn't act on it. No harm, no loss. But what will be next.....

I always remember the evening the breath tests and speeding convictions debacle broke and a Super, or Asst Commissioner from Traffic was on the radio taking questions.

In his words he stated that, ' the fake tests etc weren't confined to a specific region, district, station or checkpoint. It was widespread and endemic.'

To state that these are the actions of a few is a failure to accept the reality.

DanMurphy · 10-09-2017 09:05PM

Negative_G wrote: »

Wtf does being female have to do with it? More liberal bull.

'Widely respected'? That tells me all I need to know.

I was having a tongue in cheek moment Negative, & should have elaborated more, but the lady is neither homeless nor colored!

Garda Commissioner Noirin O'Sullivan announces retirement

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