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Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 2 **MOD NOTE POST 1***
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I heard about that from a friend who teaches in Galway who Good Counsel played in the U16 All Ireland Semi Final. He taught he was an incredible talent, Good Counsel went on to win the All Ireland. Looking at the Kilkenny minors they were lacking a bit of quality.
Without advertising soccer he is probably better off where he is at the moment with the incredible wages and transfer fees at the moment
So he was outstanding in a Junior "A" Colleges campaign in 2014 and this makes him a huge loss to this years minor team??
Although mentioned in the comprehensive match report for the final, he isn't painted as a superstar and the mention of the semi-final refers to 2 other players as being key. In fact the report also seemed more impressed that he was an Irish Soccer international rather than his hurling ability.
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/goreyguardian/sport/gaa/magnificent-seven-power-counsel-home-30796033.html
I don't want to be undermining any young sportsperson. he certainly has a talent that he is putting to good use. Well done to him. I suppose what I find irritating in GAA, is there is always more concern about those we haven't got rather than those we have got. Fortunately, we still have Ciaran Brennan at the moment so he deserves the plaudits so far and he has earned them in county colours at Under-14 and Under-16 now, though it is unfair to heap too much on any young player that he is going to be the next superstar. Those of us who followed Richie Hogan, will know it did not happen over night in the end for him either.
I often hear lads in clubs talking about this young fellow has huge potential but he is also "big into the soccer" or whatever. If you know this you have two choices; Swing him back to GAA as quickly as possible or focus your development time on the lad you'll know will stay with it. But you see the issue is often those type of lads take more work and a lot of club coaches are lazy, yes lazy, and take the easy option by not developing what look like average or maybe even below average players at underage. If that was always the way, what would have happened the likes of Derek Lyng or Martin Comerford?
Now I'm going to throw a grenade into the mix for a bit of objective debate on the weekend of an All-Ireland Seniro Hurling final that Kilkenny are not involved in... The overall standard of underage club coaching is probably at its lowest point... :eek:
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So he was outstanding in a Junior "A" Colleges campaign in 2014 and this makes him a huge loss to this years minor team??
Although mentioned in the comprehensive match report for the final, he isn't painted as a superstar and the mention of the semi-final refers to 2 other players as being key. In fact the report also seemed more impressed that he was an Irish Soccer international rather than his hurling ability.
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/goreyguardian/sport/gaa/magnificent-seven-power-counsel-home-30796033.html
I don't want to be undermining any young sportsperson. he certainly has a talent that he is putting to good use. Well done to him. I suppose what I find irritating in GAA, is there is always more concern about those we haven't got rather than those we have got. Fortunately, we still have Ciaran Brennan at the moment so he deserves the plaudits so far and he has earned them in county colours at Under-14 and Under-16 now, though it is unfair to heap too much on any young player that he is going to be the next superstar. Those of us who followed Richie Hogan, will know it did not happen over night in the end for him either.
I often hear lads in clubs talking about this young fellow has huge potential but he is also "big into the soccer" or whatever. If you know this you have two choices; Swing him back to GAA as quickly as possible or focus your development time on the lad you'll know will stay with it. But you see the issue is often those type of lads take more work and a lot of club coaches are lazy, yes lazy, and take the easy option by not developing what look like average or maybe even below average players at underage. If that was always the way, what would have happened the likes of Derek Lyng or Martin Comerford?
Now I'm going to throw a grenade into the mix for a bit of objective debate on the weekend of an All-Ireland Seniro Hurling final that Kilkenny are not involved in... The overall standard of underage club coaching is probably at its lowest point... :eek:
Any St Kierans team that win an All Ireland Junior will be backboned by 5 or 6 players on the Kilkenny Minor team, so i presume an "outstanding player" for Good Counsel who win it would potentially be a loss for Kilkenny Minors, I think so anyway.0 -
So he was outstanding in a Junior "A" Colleges campaign in 2014 and this makes him a huge loss to this years minor team??
Although mentioned in the comprehensive match report for the final, he isn't painted as a superstar and the mention of the semi-final refers to 2 other players as being key. In fact the report also seemed more impressed that he was an Irish Soccer international rather than his hurling ability.
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/goreyguardian/sport/gaa/magnificent-seven-power-counsel-home-30796033.html
I don't want to be undermining any young sportsperson. he certainly has a talent that he is putting to good use. Well done to him. I suppose what I find irritating in GAA, is there is always more concern about those we haven't got rather than those we have got. Fortunately, we still have Ciaran Brennan at the moment so he deserves the plaudits so far and he has earned them in county colours at Under-14 and Under-16 now, though it is unfair to heap too much on any young player that he is going to be the next superstar. Those of us who followed Richie Hogan, will know it did not happen over night in the end for him either.
I often hear lads in clubs talking about this young fellow has huge potential but he is also "big into the soccer" or whatever. If you know this you have two choices; Swing him back to GAA as quickly as possible or focus your development time on the lad you'll know will stay with it. But you see the issue is often those type of lads take more work and a lot of club coaches are lazy, yes lazy, and take the easy option by not developing what look like average or maybe even below average players at underage. If that was always the way, what would have happened the likes of Derek Lyng or Martin Comerford?
Now I'm going to throw a grenade into the mix for a bit of objective debate on the weekend of an All-Ireland Seniro Hurling final that Kilkenny are not involved in... The overall standard of underage club coaching is probably at its lowest point... :eek:
Some club underage coaches are really excellent, some good, some average, some poor.... No different to any other time in Kilkenny Gaa.0 -
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Ceist_Beag wrote: »On the subject of underage coaching, some interesting comments from DJ on the matter. Could it be that the kids are harder to coach these days rather than an issue with the coaches/coaching?
I read that article yesterday and was thinking that DJ will be the target of faux outrage and PC rubbish from children's groups, ADH experts etc etc and what ever other label they now put on disruptive kids.
But I was also nodding in agreement with everything he was saying
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The overall standard of underage club coaching is probably at its lowest point... :eek:
You would hardly have any stats to back that up? or is it just your opinion.
As was mentioned, there have always been good + bad + indifferent coaches for every sport, always.
"Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn
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I read that article yesterday and was thinking that DJ will be the target of faux outrage and PC rubbish from children's groups, ADH experts etc etc and what ever other label they now put on disruptive kids.
But I was also nodding in agreement with everything he was saying
From my own personal (admittedly limited) experience, I'm finding that kids are less interested once they leave the training pitch. Kids come back week after week and it's obvious they are doing nothing in between sessions so the progress is very slow. Looking at some of the older groups it's also quite noticeable that a lot of kids are just lazy - basics like running and jumping are an effort. But of course I could be imagining that things were different when I were a lad! :P
I haven't seen the attitude issues personally but possibly that's more to do with the ages I coach so it could well be all ahead of me yet! 0 -
Isnt it great that the Waterford people living and/or working in Kilkenny expect Kilkenny people to "shout for" Waterford !
Isnt it great that some workplaces down here on the border (kilkenny business's in Kilkenny) put up Waterford flags .... to appease their few Waterford workers....
Where are all the Kilkenny flags in Waterford buisness's when Kilkenny are in the Final ?? For some reason the Deise expect us in Kilkenny to want Waterford to win, and if we dont , we are just "Bitter barstewards" and "begrudgers" .....
In fairness, its mostly from the Bandwagon jumpers, never at a game since the Final in 08, and they cant understand the meaning/feeling of rivalry when the 3 counties are a couple of kilometers apart.
Anyway , may the best team win on Sunday......
"Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn
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