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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Amadan90


    For those on here who've had failed installs due to the underground ducting, would newer built houses have better ducting for it or it would all be the same?

    also, if the underground install fails, is it feasible to put a new pole where the underground cover is (or near it) and run a cable overhead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭ccazza


    Amadan90 wrote: »
    For those on here who've had failed installs due to the underground ducting, would newer built houses have better ducting for it or it would all be the same?

    also, if the underground install fails, is it feasible to put a new pole where the underground cover is (or near it) and run a cable overhead?

    Our house is built 11 years and they had no trouble bringing the Cable through the ducting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,049 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Amadan90 wrote: »
    For those on here who've had failed installs due to the underground ducting, would newer built houses have better ducting for it or it would all be the same?

    Depends on what the builder put in the ground during construction.
    Amadan90 wrote: »
    also, if the underground install fails, is it feasible to put a new pole where the underground cover is (or near it) and run a cable overhead?

    Based on posts here, it depends, Gwynston above got an overhead cable when his ducting failed, others I believe require new ducting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 addict


    The knowable people here may have a answer to a fibre question , I got FTTH installed last week and everything went very smooth only took over a hour going overhead ,

    I had two wifi options on router the normal 2.4 and 5ghz and speed was as should be but after 12hours another wifi option appeared Eir-wifi and when clicked on it asked for username and password as normal but no username or password worked for it , I then connected to router via Lan and checked was there 3 wifi options but only two .

    I was not happy with the FTTH as I had my old service running as well so under the cooling off period I got it disconnected this week and when disconnection happened the Eir-WiFi disappeared again Funny or what ????

    Has anyone else come across this ??Does anyone know what the Eir-Wifi is or what is it for , can the ONT (which is really a dumb router) on the wall have a wifi (don't think so) as I know you can connect to it by Lan and configure the ONT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    eir WiFi is a service that allows eir customers to access the internet over WiFi at other eir Fibre customers' homes using a portion of their Fibre broadband ..."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    The Cush wrote: »
    Based on posts here, it depends, Gwynston above got an overhead cable when his ducting failed, others I believe require new ducting.
    Correct. Our house is 16 years old and had narrower ducting fitted for the last few feet right from the start. The KN guys said it was quite usual to do this because the extra flexibility is useful when finishing off the final wiring and hall fittings. And he should know, he said, because he worked for years as a sparkie and did it himself many times over the years on new builds! ;)

    There shouldn't be a problem going overhead if you have a clear line to a pole, although it obviously doesn't look so good. He told me about a road in Derrydonnell (near Athenry) where every single house has too narrow ducting, but there are no poles at all - the whole road is serviced underground. So to get FTTH, every single house is going to have to dig up and replace their ducting! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 addict


    eir WiFi is a service that allows eir customers to access the internet over WiFi at other eir Fibre customers' homes using a portion of their Fibre broadband ..."

    So does that mean that people can connect to your broadband using there Eir credentials? And if so who's Fup is being used


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,081 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    eir WiFi is a service that allows eir customers to access the internet over WiFi at other eir Fibre customers' homes using a portion of their Fibre broadband ..."
    addict wrote: »
    So does that mean that people can connect to your broadband using there Eir credentials? And if so who's Fup is being used

    As I understand it, the connection is made using someone else's router, but that connection is isolated from the owner's service and the data is not counted against the FUP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    is the usage counted against their own account FUP or have we found a loop hole to get around the 1TB limit? :)


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    addict wrote: »
    ...the ONT (which is really a dumb router)...
    On a point of pedantry, it's more like a slightly smart 2-port switch than a dumb router, operating at OSI layer 2 rather than layer 3.
    ...I know you can connect to it by Lan and configure the ONT

    From what I've seen, that's a one-shot deal. Once it's paired with the OLT it disables its user interface to prevent the end user from frigging with it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    is the usage counted against their own account FUP or have we found a loop hole to get around the 1TB limit? :)

    In Virgins deployment you cant use your account at your own routers shared network, presumably to stop this kinda thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    On a point of pedantry, it's more like a slightly smart 2-port switch than a dumb router, operating at OSI layer 2 rather than layer 3.

    Id call it an optical modem, as thats what it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭frozenfrozen


    ED E wrote: »
    In Virgins deployment you cant use your account at your own routers shared network, presumably to stop this kinda thing.

    swap logins with the neighbours.. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Bored Accountant


    swap logins with the neighbours.. :cool:

    I believe the bandwidth on the guest wifi SSID is limited to stop that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    With VM its 3M symmetric last time I checked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 addict


    I believe the bandwidth on the guest wifi SSID is limited to stop that.

    Anybody know the limit ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭Bored Accountant


    addict wrote: »
    Anybody know the limit ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Amadan90


    I was told by Eir that my installation would be sometime after 28th of September due to wiring problems on the poles (have no idea what the problem was) but got a phone call today from OpenEir saying install will be this Monday. I've already had 2 dates for install and on 2nd date, that was when they noticed the problem.

    I won't hold my breath that the install will happen this Monday although i also got a letter in the post today saying Eir Fibre Extreme is now active in my area.

    My house is about 15 years old so hopefully the underground ducting is suitable because an overhead install seems almost impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Blogin


    addict wrote: »
    Anybody know the limit ?



    426781.png
    An interesting thread about that eir wifi on your eir router.
    http://www.boards.ie/ttfthread/2057728213


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Amadan90 wrote: »
    I was told by Eir that my installation would be sometime after 28th of September due to wiring problems on the poles (have no idea what the problem was) but got a phone call today from OpenEir saying install will be this Monday. I've already had 2 dates for install and on 2nd date, that was when they noticed the problem.

    I won't hold my breath that the install will happen this Monday although i also got a letter in the post today saying Eir Fibre Extreme is now active in my area.

    My house is about 15 years old so hopefully the underground ducting is suitable because an overhead install seems almost impossible.

    Amadan, What exchange area and county are you in?

    Installation of ftth equipment has more or less been completed as planned in the Inch St.Lawernce Limerick exchange in the past week or so and are technically live. I'm in wait for our lines to be officially live before we can put in the orders. According to the rollout map as of the 15 August last parts of my exchange area was marked live but not on the road I live. I noticed a few extra premises should be able to connect to ftth than originally planned on the OpenEir Map. Beary's Cross on the N24 where traffic turn for Caherconlish and Mitchelstown and Knockea School in the Ballyneety area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    Wondering if anyone here could shed some light on a situation I'm having.

    Eir salesman signed us up to a fibre package in July, eventually got it installed after a couple of missed appointments on the 21st of August, but it's still not working.

    I've tried getting answers from eir but they're not giving much away, and the one member of staff who actually looked into it said the problem is with KN and they can't get a definite date on when it will be fixed. My house is live according to eir's map and has been for weeks.

    Is this a common occurrence? I'd be happy enough waiting for it if I knew it was coming eventually, but I'm now completely without home phone and internet for close to two weeks, it's getting a bit ridiculous.
    Try contacting open eir fibrepower@openeir.ie and try ring eir again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 Amadan90


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    Amadan, What exchange area and county are you in?

    Installation of ftth equipment has more or less been completed as planned in the Inch St.Lawernce Limerick exchange in the past week or so and are technically live. I'm in wait for our lines to be officially live before we can put in the orders. According to the rollout map as of the 15 August last parts of my exchange area was marked live but not on the road I live. I noticed a few extra premises should be able to connect to ftth than originally planned on the OpenEir Map. Beary's Cross on the N24 where traffic turn for Caherconlish and Mitchelstown and Knockea School in the Ballyneety area.

    I'm in Donegal, the update on the map in August also marked my exchange as live. The map has a different route as to what was actually done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Ricta


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    On a point of pedantry, it's more like a slightly smart 2-port switch than a dumb router, operating at OSI layer 2 rather than layer 3.

    or is it a gateway, translating from one protocol, ethernet to another, fibre optic network protocol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,579 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    BarryM wrote: »
    That is why I asked about the price/deal, etc. I assume the €171 includes setup fees? Couldn't see it in the pic. I'd be interested in the answers to your (obvious?) query.

    No answer yet. Got no reply from Eir on here.

    I also got an email from Eir to my email, I've had no dealings with them whatsoever, it was my sister who has this broadband, and it's her details on file with Eir, yet they managed to send me a bill to my email?
    How the fcuk did they get my email??????? I literally have no clue as to how they obtained an email address for me, and why they would send me the bill.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,850 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Ricta wrote: »
    or is it a gateway, translating from one protocol, ethernet to another, fibre optic network protocol.

    In my pedantic little world, "gateway" is a synonym for "router". I guess ED E's description of it as a modem is a pretty good one, although it has much more to do than just modulation and demodulation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 742 ✭✭✭Dero


    Ricta wrote: »
    or is it a gateway, translating from one protocol, ethernet to another, fibre optic network protocol.

    That would probably make it more akin to a bridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭iioklo


    Is the ONT just a media converter, converting Copper Ethernet to Optical Ethernet Protocol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭vintagevrs


    The neighbors got ftth installed last week. I had a chat with the KN guys to have a look at our ETU and flag any potential issues. Sure enough our ETU is installed in a terrible place, non reg apparently. It's on the outside of a fireplace just to the side of a chimney. The room that the ETU is on the outside of has cat6 cabled to it but he would have to fish the fibre horizontally across about 8 foot in the cavity and looks like may be tricky.

    Anyone think dropping a pull line down the cavity on top of the ETU from the attic would work. He said if it was there he'd use it. Walls have sheet insulation not pumped. It's a two storey house.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,276 ✭✭✭digiman


    iioklo wrote: »
    Is the ONT just a media converter, converting Copper Ethernet to Optical Ethernet Protocol

    Yes mainly, does a few other things as well like authenticate you on the network with a password or serial number.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    As all the Fibre cables and splice boxes are all rolled in my exchange area of Inch St. Lawernce Limerick in the last couple of weeks according to Eir.ie it will be sometime between October and December 17 before ftth will be available to my Eircode. I was hoping to be connected before the end of this month.


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