Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

Eyes Down Field · 27-08-2017 08:29AM

Floyd via DQ

gitzy16v wrote: »

It was a joke....just like walshb told us all for weeks.....nobody listened...i didnt listen but he was right...a sham..mismatch...joke...what a sh1t show by Conor...fooled me...and a lot of others....he was never near Floyds level.....he looked foolish out there

Fair play to you gitzy. With so many sore losers on the MMA fan side. It's nice to see one call it like it is. Respect to yourself.

Personally I want to see McGregor back in the UFC. I like the guy. He's just not a boxer, fair play to him for putting himself in a position to make that kind of money and securing his family's financial future. I can't knock him for that.

Lt Dan · 27-08-2017 08:33AM

Floyd via DQ

Burial. wrote: »

As expected, light work for Floyd. Conor to his credit started well but it was to be expected given his desire for the early KO and Floyd's trademark sit back and wait to exploit period. That uppercut looked nice but Conor simply doesn't have the power for Boxing.

Didn't think Conor would gas so early and so hard. Cardio really is very poor with the man. His punch technique is piss poor and all the signs of an amateur boxer. Those slaps, paws and patters from about round three on were a little bizarre. I'd love to know the behind the scenes in the training camp and what was actually done besides the evident weight work.

It was refreshing to see the Pretty Boy Floyd era Floyd stand in front of his man and walk him down all fight although he shouldn't get too much credit for standing in front of an amateur. Still, nice little throwback. Methodical break down once he knew that his power was nothing special at all.

Had a quick gawk around the threads. Unsurprisingly the Conor diehards who were spouting how Boxing fans would eat their words and that they'd hold their hands up if Conor lost are either nowhere to be seen or heard or else are making ridiculous excuses and trying to paint this as a win for Conor. I guess I'm just jealous because of his money though right? Although Boxing is consistently on the rise it's never been more apparent that most people have no clue about the sweet science. To be fair the complete diehards are a minority and the MMA forum has a tonne of sound posters. It's great to have our forum back though.

Look forward to seeing Conor back in the Octagon where he belongs. Hopefully he goes off the radar for a while and let this Boxing fad he has die its death. Think he'll take the rest of the year off but I'd expect a Nate Diaz trilogy fight early next year.

Hats off to Floyd, 50-0 looks tasty on paper. I do sincerely hope he f*cks off now and never returns to fight in the ring. What a fighter though. Freakishly gifted athlete but his discipline, ability to adapt and change his style mid fights and mid career is mind blowing. He'll be studied till the end of time. I do hope he becomes a trainer though once his promotional joint is gone past the early development days which it's in now. Guys like him, Hopkins and Ward need to share their unparalleled genius and knowledge with the next generation.

Now that that's over I'm already getting excited with the thought of Canelo/Golovkin and possibly Rigo/Lomachenko at the end of the year. Been a monstrous year for the sport.

Paulie M might be telling the truth, a room full of yes men, and Conor refusing to listen to anyone

Frankly, I'd be really worried about Conor, if he is still in the UFC in 2-3 years time (no guarantee) New fighters will emerge and will be a hell of a lot smarter than thick as a ditch human punch bag Nate Diaz and Eddie Alvarez. Conor will have to fight lads his own size. You will see new lads coming in, coping Conor's style of fighting rather than the traditional dry humping on the ground that use to go on (Yes, I know, Conor was not the first striker in the UFC). You will see many of the Brazilians flee and the wrestlers non existent. Cardio is a serious problem for him and while his boxing might be alright in UFC,he could do with tuning up. Fighters might start getting a little braver , knowing that the power ain't all that (Speed and accuracy will be still there)

spurious · 27-08-2017 08:33AM

Forget retired champion, forget novice opponent, forget advertising and PPV, is the point in a boxing contest to win and win quickly, or to draw it out well past a stage when you could 'easily' have won so as to have some sort of show?

paleoperson · 27-08-2017 08:33AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Personally I want to see McGregor back in the UFC. I like the guy. He's just not a boxer, fair play to him for putting himself in a position to make that kind of money and securing his family's financial future. I can't knock him for that.

Nonsense, that's the one thing we can and should knock him for the most. If he's a fake money grubber, just doing it for the money.

If he's a ****-talker but can't walk the walk, that's bad enough. If he's a ****-talker doing it just for the money then he's a liar and a scam, not an honest man.

This whole idea "if it makes him money then he's winning from it" is not true at all. You can make money and not be a scam.

Lt Dan · 27-08-2017 08:40AM

Floyd via DQ

paleoperson wrote: »

Nonsense, that's the one thing we can and should knock him for the most. If he's a fake money grubber, just doing it for the money.

If he's a ****-talker but can't walk the walk, that's bad enough. If he's a ****-talker doing it just for the money then he's a liar and a scam, not an honest man.

This whole idea "if it makes him money then he's winning from it" is not true at all. You can make money and not be a scam.

Defending his belt a few times would be a start. Nate Diaz thing is a joke. Nate offers nothing to a fight bar being able to take a punch like a champ. I know he will have to fight Nate again, but take a title defence or two first and keep UFC fans who don't like him, off his back

Eyes Down Field · 27-08-2017 08:47AM

Floyd via DQ

paleoperson wrote:

Nonsense, that's the one thing we can and should knock him for the most. If he's a fake money grubber, just doing it for the money.

I'm sorry but at what point did you think this event was about anything other than money?

paleoperson wrote:

If he's a ****-talker but can't walk the walk, that's bad enough. If he's a ****-talker doing it just for the money then he's a liar and a scam, not an honest man.

That's just the way the game works my friend. It's all part of the professional fight business.

paleoperson wrote:

This whole idea "if it makes him money then he's winning from it" is not true at all. You can make money and not be a scam.

They called this 'The Money Fight' The prize was 'The Money Belt' They told you straight up what it was about.

They put arguably the greatest boxer of all time up against a guy who had never boxed before at any senior level amateur or pro. It was bound to be a total mismatch.

SlickRic · 27-08-2017 08:47AM

spurious wrote: »

Forget retired champion, forget novice opponent, forget advertising and PPV, is the point in a boxing contest to win and win quickly, or to draw it out well past a stage when you could 'easily' have won so as to have some sort of show?

Floyd didn't drag it out purposely. That's unnecessary hyperbole some boxing fans are putting forward to explain it going to the 10th round. There's no need to do it.

The fact is, Floyd won very easily. It was a cake walk. A mismatch. But it went 10 rounds because that's the fighter Floyd is. He's cautious. He picks his spots. He's not going to go wild unnecessarily. This went exactly how we all should've predicted it, because it's Floyd's pattern. He takes a couple of rounds to work shít out, barely throwing punches, then dissects.

It was a schooling. But no way in hell he drew it out on purpose. The methodical dissection is simply his style.

spurious · 27-08-2017 08:50AM

SlickRic wrote:

It was a schooling. But no way in hell he drew it out on purpose. The methodical dissection is simply his style.

Thanks for your reply. I was amazed there wasn't one big punch early on that settled it.
I suppose had it been Tyson there would have been. Different strokes.

Eyes Down Field · 27-08-2017 08:52AM

Floyd via DQ

Axwell wrote: »

When you go post the same long winded comment goading other posters on two threads in the same forum its trolling. If you disagree feel free to appeal it..i think we both know you wont though.

No I'll serve the ban. It's evidence of the sensitivity of the MMA snowflakes

Schwiiing · 27-08-2017 08:55AM

SlickRic wrote: »

Floyd didn't drag it out purposely. That's unnecessary hyperbole some boxing fans are putting forward to explain it going to the 10th round. There's no need to do it.

The fact is, Floyd won very easily. It was a cake walk. A mismatch. But it went 10 rounds because that's the fighter Floyd is. He's cautious. He picks his spots. He's not going to go wild unnecessarily. This went exactly how we all should've predicted it, because it's Floyd's pattern. He takes a couple of rounds to work shít out, barely throwing punches, then dissects.

It was a schooling. But no way in hell he drew it out on purpose. The methodical dissection is simply his style.

Nearly the first thing he said after the fight was he wanted 'to put on a show for the fans to make up for the Pacquiao fight'.

Lukker- · 27-08-2017 09:00AM

Lt Dan wrote: »

Paulie M might be telling the truth, a room full of yes men, and Conor refusing to listen to anyone

Frankly, I'd be really worried about Conor, if he is still in the UFC in 2-3 years time (no guarantee) New fighters will emerge and will be a hell of a lot smarter than thick as a ditch human punch bag Nate Diaz and Eddie Alvarez. Conor will have to fight lads his own size. You will see new lads coming in, coping Conor's style of fighting rather than the traditional dry humping on the ground that use to go on (Yes, I know, Conor was not the first striker in the UFC). You will see many of the Brazilians flee and the wrestlers non existent. Cardio is a serious problem for him and while his boxing might be alright in UFC,he could do with tuning up. Fighters might start getting a little braver , knowing that the power ain't all that (Speed and accuracy will be still there)

His last 3 opponents have all been heavier than him?

I get the power thing, his power is probably just above average in boxing, that said, I think power is a very different thing cross sports. Punching power has to be a lot more explosive in boxing, more lat engagement and turning into punches. McGregor punches from much further back, from his leg. Precision and timing and range management are his strongest suites, and they are totally different in boxing, longer range in MMA, and he can find the chin more because of the smaller gloves means a smaller guard.

Cardio is only a problem if someone can withstand the pressure, and so far only one fighter with an iron chin has managed that and he still got dropped 3 times. MMA ain't boxing, it's a sprint compared to a marathon.

I think McGregor could have made a fine boxer if he spent his life doing it, he has many of the attributes. His reflexes are on point when he's not gassed, and even when gassed he can slip quite well. The biggest change would be punching technique, it looks sloppy in boxing, but it's actually good technique in MMA. E.G a hook in boxing you are using your knuckles because of padding, but in MMA you generally use the back of the hand. Those bad techniques for boxing were never going to be unlearned in a 6 week camp.

Burkie1203 · 27-08-2017 09:01AM

SlickRic wrote: »

Floyd didn't drag it out purposely. That's unnecessary hyperbole some boxing fans are putting forward to explain it going to the 10th round. There's no need to do it.

The fact is, Floyd won very easily. It was a cake walk. A mismatch. But it went 10 rounds because that's the fighter Floyd is. He's cautious. He picks his spots. He's not going to go wild unnecessarily. This went exactly how we all should've predicted it, because it's Floyd's pattern. He takes a couple of rounds to work shít out, barely throwing punches, then dissects.

It was a schooling. But no way in hell he drew it out on purpose. The methodical dissection is simply his style.

The only bit i would disagree with is your first few words. Mayweather did drag it out, but purely because that was his gameplan. He has gone the distance in 12 of his last 14 fights before tonight (i think- open to correction ) and I think its poor from McGregor to be fatigued halfway through the proposed distance when he should be at peak fitness against a guy 2 years retired and 11 years older.

If your gonna talk a lot of **** prior to the fight, you have to back it up. McGregor didnt IMO. My impression was he thought he WOULD take Mayweather out early.

Would be interested to see the respective weight they both entered the ring at. McGregor looked about 10kg heavier then Mayweather.

paleoperson · 27-08-2017 09:05AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Oh shut up Eyes Down Field. You're just a smartass, you're not making any valid point. What I said was accurate and right, you're goading again by calling them "special snowflakes" and I'm sure you deserved your ban as well. Ask yourself what you are doing with your life, and why you feel the need to act like a troll.

Only thing I might have sounded I came on a bit strong, but it's always annoying to me when there's some dispute over how authentic someone is, and then someone brings up "but they're making bank from it, ergo they are smart?!"..... no. A person is either authentic or they're not, if they're not they're a liar. McGregor is not smart if he's putting on a fake persona, he's a money grubber.

Eyes Down Field · 27-08-2017 09:06AM

Floyd via DQ

SlickRic wrote: »

Floyd didn't drag it out purposely. That's unnecessary hyperbole some boxing fans are putting forward to explain it going to the 10th round. There's no need to do it.

The fact is, Floyd won very easily. It was a cake walk. A mismatch. But it went 10 rounds because that's the fighter Floyd is. He's cautious. He picks his spots. He's not going to go wild unnecessarily. This went exactly how we all should've predicted it, because it's Floyd's pattern. He takes a couple of rounds to work shít out, barely throwing punches, then dissects.

It was a schooling. But no way in hell he drew it out on purpose. The methodical dissection is simply his style.

Yeah you are right. That is the way Floyd fights, and as boxing fans we should have expected as much.

I think allot of us thought Floyd might be able to get the stoppage a bit sooner, considering the lack of boxing ability of his opponent. He lasted longer than I expected.

What really failed McGregor was his shocking lack of stamina. He was gasping for air after just 2 rounds and completely fcked by the end of the 5th. Conor is resilient but has no stamina.

Lt Dan · 27-08-2017 09:17AM

Floyd via DQ

Lukker- wrote: »

His last 3 opponents have all been heavier than him?

Nate Diaz and Alvarez? lol. One is a journey man, struggles with weight and offered nothing to the fight but an ability to take punishment and bleed more than a woman on the blob (Conor beat himself in the first fight), The other , well, we all heard what Conor said about him.............Conor wisely avoided getting into as many grappling matches with them, sure with the punishment that they took from Conor, they were out on their feet (credit to Conor)

Lukker- wrote: »

I get the power thing, his power is probably just above average in boxing, that said, I think power is a very different thing cross sports.

In UFC, at the moment,he should be okay. Would help if he could knock people out stone cold like he did to Aldo, but..........

In time, there will be more lads like him who came from boxing and who can take a punch and may have fast(er) hands and ability to deal with his array of bombs. The 2 lads that you mentioned stood there . They did not challenge Conor ,none of them really did , Conor was free to let fly and the opponents did little to get out of the way.

I hear you on your comments about the different aspect of boxing in MMA, I concede on that

Axwell · 27-08-2017 09:43AM

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

No I'll serve the ban. It's evidence of the sensitivity of the MMA snowflakes

And you coming here crying about it is evidence of you throwing your own toys out of the pram and your own sensitivity.,

wonderfullife · 27-08-2017 09:59AM

Conor via KO-TKO

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

What really failed McGregor was his shocking lack of stamina. He was gasping for air after just 2 rounds and completely fcked by the end of the 5th. Conor is resilient but has no stamina.

Dominick Cruz made the point over a year ago that Conor is a fast-twitch muscle fighter in the same vein of an Anthony Johnson/Yoel Romero.

In plain English, Cruz's point was Conor can do all the cycling and running he wants, he can get into sub-3-hour marathon shape, and he'll still start to gas after 10 minutes of fighting because he explodes into shots.

Dominick reckoned there is no fixing the issue. His stamina is amazing. His cardio is amazing. There's just no fixing those flat-spots unless he completely alters how he fights.

As for the fight, Floyd coasts the first 3 rounds in every single fight but Conor still landed some great shots in those rounds and was up 3-0 on most scorecards. Now, so are most of Floyd's opponents... he coasts early... but Conor still fared well to win those rounds.

Anyway, it's all pointless now. I had no interest in seeing him box in the first place and we have a clear answer to any delusions - he can't beat any elite boxer *right now* without IMO a solid 2 years of work dedicated to boxing and EVEN THEN he doesn't beat a top 20 opponent unless he makes dramatic gains in skill.

He's better than most thought he is and worse than plenty (me) believed. His power has always been a myth - it's his accuracy that drops opponents in MMA. He wasn't accurate enough, even when he landed clean it was on the nose. He landed 3 lovely body jabs and one left hook to the body, one check hook to the face and the upper cut.

I counted 7 punches that any boxer would be proud of.

He gave it his best and it was an entertaining fight. In the eyes of the general public BOTH boxing and MMA are the winners. Boxing because Floyd showed masterful skills at times and clear superiority. MMA because Conor landed some genuinely skillful shots and showed heart.

Neither sport loses, both will benefit from the new eyeballs and hopefully they now put their eyes on GGG-Canelo and the big UFC cards to come.

Clegg · 27-08-2017 10:09AM

Well that was awful.

McGregor did better than I thought, but the fight was essentially over after the 3rd. Mayweather eased his way through the opening flurry and McGregor had nothing after that. Complete mismatch in skill and experience.

normanoffside · 27-08-2017 10:09AM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

Dominick Cruz made the point over a year ago that Conor is a fast-twitch muscle fighter in the same vein of an Anthony Johnson/Yoel Romero.

Joshua is a lot fitter though. He carried his power right through to round 11 against Klitschko in a much higher paced fight.
People might be blessed with poor endurance but they can improve it with effective training. Connor needs to get out for everyday low intensity runs and cardio work.

BTW if you watched superstars a few years ago AJ won the 100m easily but also won the long distance cycle event and was very competitive over 800m too.

Lukker- · 27-08-2017 10:16AM

normanoffside wrote: »

Joshua is a lot fitter though. He carried his power right through to round 11 against Klitschko in a much higher paced fight.
People might be blessed with poor endurance but they can improve it with effective training. Connor needs to get out for everyday low intensity runs and cardio work.

BTW if you watched superstars a few years ago AJ won the 100m easily but also won the long distance cycle event and was very competitive over 800m too.

Joshua has also been conditioned his entire career for boxing though. Conor will never do roadwork, not good for the knees after multiple ACL's.

Joeseph Balls · 27-08-2017 10:17AM

Floyd via DQ

I mostly kept out of this thread because of a lot of the ****e posted, but in fairness wonderfullife, you are humble in the defeat so fair play to you, even if I did think you were a sack in the build up :P it's a pity conor didn't win but it was a near impossible ask. Maybe you'll stick around for the big boxing fights, who knows, you might even enjoy them

mada999 · 27-08-2017 10:34AM

Conor via DQ

SlickRic wrote: »

Floyd didn't drag it out purposely. That's unnecessary hyperbole some boxing fans are putting forward to explain it going to the 10th round. There's no need to do it.

The fact is, Floyd won very easily. It was a cake walk. A mismatch. But it went 10 rounds because that's the fighter Floyd is. He's cautious. He picks his spots. He's not going to go wild unnecessarily. This went exactly how we all should've predicted it, because it's Floyd's pattern. He takes a couple of rounds to work shít out, barely throwing punches, then dissects.

It was a schooling. But no way in hell he drew it out on purpose. The methodical dissection is simply his style.

yup... i forgot how he fights..he's made a career of turning his back and defending.. letting fighters get tired and then come in..

ROCKMAN · 27-08-2017 10:34AM

I'm happy that joke is over and hopefully Both sports can move on ...

but have a horrible feeling it could be the start of a string of these type of fights with young fighters trying to make a name or older ones looking for one last big pay day ,,hopefully I am wrong ..

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walshb · 27-08-2017 10:35AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Pretty much everyone who posted on this fight was wrong in some aspect..

All I got right was the winner..

I was wrong on the duration. I had Floyd in 6...

It took him 10 rds..

I was wrong as regards dominance...

Plain and simple when all things considerer, Floyd was awful in there...

Couldn't land for several rds. Turning his back every ten seconds looking for the referee to help him..

Floyd won because Conor gassed. That is actually pathetic. Had Conor been boxing fit what would Floyd have done?

I said from the start that Floyd deserves no credit no matter what..

In fact he comes out of this looking silly...struggling to throw and land for many rds against a novice..

Conor...fair play. Came to win and made Floyd look pretty useless for several rds..

Looking at Conor the boxer...he would never make it..awkward, but just not a boxer...hasn't the speed, power, boxing coordination from what I seen..but that is s just a boxing sssessment..

Floyd has come out if this looking ridiculous IMO..

I mean, throw in Canelo or Spence or any top fighter today and they would have dispatched Conor quick fast...

It took TBE ten rds, and many of them he barely landed a punch, and lost some of them.

Topcat32 · 27-08-2017 10:40AM

walshb wrote: »

Pretty much everyone who posted on this fight was wrong in some aspect..

All I got right was the winner..

I was wrong on the duration. I had Floyd in 6...

It took him 10 rds..

I was wrong as regards dominance...

Plain and simple when all things considerer, Floyd was awful in there...

Couldn't land for several rds. Turning his back every ten seconds looking for the referee to help him..

Floyd won because Conor gassed. That is actually pathetic. Had Conor been boxing fit what would Floyd have done?

I said from the start that Floyd deserves no credit no matter what..

In fact he comes out of this looking silly...struggling to throw and land for many rds against a novice..

Conor...fair play. Came to win and made Floyd look pretty useless for several rds..

Looking at Conor the boxer...he would never make it..awkward, but just not a boxer...hasn't the speed, power, boxing coordination from what I seen..but that is s just a boxing sssessment..

Floyd has come out if this looking ridiculous IMO..

I mean, throw in Canelo or Spence or any top fighter today and they would have dispatched Conor quick fast...

It took TBE ten rds, and many of them he barely landed a punch, and lost some of them.

Floyd is 40, hasnt boxed for 2 years, had no real respect for McGregor, im looking at him on Sky Sports now and he looks like he is coming back from 30 minutes im the gym, doesnt look too ridiculous to me.

begbysback · 27-08-2017 10:41AM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

Quick post and last post in here.

Floyd the far superior boxer. It was delusional for anyone to think otherwise and I was very much delusional.

Congratulations to Floyd.
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can I get eggs, 2 sausages, 1 rasher, toast, tea - and a large slice of humble pie please

thanks for the lolz

murphyebass · 27-08-2017 10:44AM

Floyd via DQ

Clegg wrote: »

Well that was awful.

McGregor did better than I thought, but the fight was essentially over after the 3rd. Mayweather eased his way through the opening flurry and McGregor had nothing after that. Complete mismatch in skill and experience.

This sums it up.

How McGregor fans thought had a hope in hell I really don't know.

It was easy money backing Mayweather.

Thanks for the free money Conor.

begbysback · 27-08-2017 10:53AM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Pretty much everyone who posted on this fight was wrong in some aspect..

All I got right was the winner..

I was wrong on the duration. I had Floyd in 6...

It took him 10 rds..

I was wrong as regards dominance...

Plain and simple when all things considerer, Floyd was awful in there...

Couldn't land for several rds. Turning his back every ten seconds looking for the referee to help him..

Floyd won because Conor gassed. That is actually pathetic. Had Conor been boxing fit what would Floyd have done?

I said from the start that Floyd deserves no credit no matter what..

In fact he comes out of this looking silly...struggling to throw and land for many rds against a novice..

Conor...fair play. Came to win and made Floyd look pretty useless for several rds..

Looking at Conor the boxer...he would never make it..awkward, but just not a boxer...hasn't the speed, power, boxing coordination from what I seen..but that is s just a boxing sssessment..

Floyd has come out if this looking ridiculous IMO..

I mean, throw in Canelo or Spence or any top fighter today and they would have dispatched Conor quick fast...

It took TBE ten rds, and many of them he barely landed a punch, and lost some of them.

Bit harsh on Floyd, not sure what you were expecting - he's 40 and came out of retirement because he was in financial difficulty. Was obvious he lacked the old spark but surely when a boxer retires he has done it because he doesn't have the heart for it no more, as such probably knocks the final flicker of light off within himself for participating in the game. To turn that back on would have to be immensely difficult.

Floyd did what floyd has always done - minimum effort for maximum return, highly unentertaining but a master nonetheless.

TheAnalyst_ · 27-08-2017 10:55AM

A sham has has been a roaring success for all involved.

walshb · 27-08-2017 11:01AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

I was expecting an ATG to be somewhat dominant against a novice pro..

If we take off our boxing and MMA glasses off and remove bias and like/dislike and assess this on purely a pro boxing event and the two combatants, how anyone could consider Floyd coming out if it looking in any way good is bonkers..

Conor was the "winner" in that regard...

Floyd's only way to get "credit" from me was a clearly dominant win..that performance was so far from it..had to actually rely on a novice gassing..

It's Floyd Mayweather, remember...mr. TBE...

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