Electric Picnic 2017 Discussion Only // No Ticket Sales

Former Former · 22-08-2017 11:03PM

Jayop wrote: »

Realistically though, absolutely no-one is going to be going up to a refund point with 10 cups for teh sake of €2. It's just another way to get a bit more money out of people. I suppose people will reuse a cup 2/3 times, but say I'm gone into the main area with 3 other people, we buy 10 cups, 6 of them have to lugged around and nothing surer than they'll break in a backpack so every time one breaks you really need to buy another 10.

That's not how it works. You don't buy empty cups and they don't get re-used.

Every pint has a 20 cent surcharge and every pint comes in a new cup.

To encourage recycling, you can get the surcharge back at the refund point. Since the cups don't get re-used, it doesn't matter if one cracks.

MJohnston · 22-08-2017 11:06PM

Do the empty cups have to come back 'intact', ie. if you squash them into a back pocket and they crack a bit, would they take them?

BrianosaurJr · 22-08-2017 11:10PM

Yes i'm almost certain they would. I think a few people are getting the wrong end of the stick with this system perhaps? It's not about money making or if the cups are intact upon return. It's to encourage people not to throw their empties on the ground, or in a waste bin, where they'll be dumped as normal and instead, to try to reduce wastage of plastic and recycle it instead at the Friends of the Earth organization refund points that are set up on-site. As mentioned by another user there's a 20c charge tacked on to every pint you buy. If you want the 20c (per cup) back, keep the empties and refund them. You'll most likely see kids at some point collecting them (sometimes asking you for your empties if you have one in your hand) from the ground or other punters looking for some quick beer money. It works.

MJohnston · 22-08-2017 11:21PM

BrianosaurJr wrote: »

Yes i'm almost certain they would. I think a few people are getting the wrong end of the stick with this system perhaps? It's not about money making or if the cups are intact upon return. It's to encourage people not to throw their empties on the ground, or in a waste bin, where they'll be dumped as normal and instead, to try to reduce wastage of plastic and recycle it instead at the Friends of the Earth organization refund points that are set up on-site. As mentioned by another user there's a 20c charge tacked on to every pint you buy. If you want the 20c (per cup) back, keep the empties and refund them.

Yeah, I certainly understand the non-dumping intent, and I'm fully supportive of it myself, but I'm just wondering because I reckon the 'refund' stalls are perhaps staffed by people who might not accept broken cups.

thebusher · 22-08-2017 11:21PM

Went to see Springsteen in Paris last year and if you bought a recyclable cup it was 11 euro for the first pint plus cup and 8 euro for every pint afterwards if you used the same cup.

Proper hard plastic pint cup with The River and Bruce on it. Still using it at home for parties and that.

Jayop · 23-08-2017 02:37AM

It's pointless and stupid unless people are allowed to reuse the same cups. That would save much more plastic.

Lzmunky · 23-08-2017 06:02AM

The weather sites are starting to get a better picture of the week leading up to next Friday now, yr have it as dry up to Thursday with a little rain Thursday afternoon. Ground should be okay if that's the case.

Former Former · 23-08-2017 06:35AM

Jayop wrote: »

It's pointless and stupid unless people are allowed to reuse the same cups. That would save much more plastic.

That's completely unworkable though. Absolutely impossible.

What's the worst case scenario? If you drank ten pints each day and dropped every cup on the ground, total extra cost over the entire weekend is 6 euro. Six quid.

This way, recycling will be close to 100%. It's a good idea.

D.Q · 23-08-2017 07:15AM

They do this at download and you always see people scavenging for cups on the last day. I think it's a good system

PabloAndRoy · 23-08-2017 07:52AM

thebusher wrote: »

Went to see Springsteen in Paris last year and if you bought a recyclable cup it was 11 euro for the first pint plus cup and 8 euro for every pint afterwards if you used the same cup.

Proper hard plastic pint cup with The River and Bruce on it. Still using it at home for parties and that.

EP used to do this, at least twice. I have an old EP pint glass somewhere...

23-08-2017 07:53AM

thebusher wrote: »

Went to see Springsteen in Paris last year and if you bought a recyclable cup it was 11 euro for the first pint plus cup and 8 euro for every pint afterwards if you used the same cup.

Proper hard plastic pint cup with The River and Bruce on it. Still using it at home for parties and that.

The Picnic had those for several years and it worked very well (like Bodhrandude I still have a few at home, paid a €2 deposit I think) but they stopped using them in the middle of one festival (2010?) and switched to soft plastic. I think there was some issue with the chemical composition of the hard plastic & it was withdrawn. Never got a full explanation for that & never saw those cups again.

I'd like to see them reintroduced as they work so well and are greener than having to recycle hundreds of thousands of soft plastic glasses. Hard plastic currently used & works very well at other festivals. You listening EP?

Nugget89 · 23-08-2017 08:06AM

Peesh89 wrote: »

Where did you get it?? Deffo want to give it a try!

If you're in Dublin, I found Stephens Street News have a few cans of it in stock. Right in the middle of town, https://twitter.com/StephenStNews

Thundercats Ho · 23-08-2017 08:10AM

Both EP & Oxegen used to have the hard plastic glasses.
Your 1st pint was an extra few quid.
You'd hand back in your empty and get a new one, they wouldn't take your empty and refill that!

It worked much better imo.

MJohnston · 23-08-2017 08:14AM

Lzmunky wrote: »

The weather sites are starting to get a better picture of the week leading up to next Friday now, yr have it as dry up to Thursday with a little rain Thursday afternoon. Ground should be okay if that's the case.

Still a bit too early for solid predictions, even for *this* weekend - too much variation from model to model and model run to model run is a good hint things are very unpredictable.

http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=world;loc=1015472~stradbally,%20Laois,%20IRELAND;sess=#forecast Is a good site to keep watching.

ghostdancer · 23-08-2017 08:25AM

didn't they have this extra 20c on a pint thing at EP the last few years already? there was definitely a 20c surcharge for "recycling" and i'm pretty certain that there were exchange points.

it didn't make much of a difference last year, the ground was still littered with plastic cups as people don't give enough of a fu-ck about 20c.

make it 2 quid for a hard plastic cup like lots of other festivals do and people won't be so quick to drop them.

brgn hntr · 23-08-2017 08:31AM

Does anybody know if family camping tickets will be valid in the Eco campsite? We won't be bringing any kids! Will that matter? Do they check these things?

Thanks in advance.

HairyCabbage · 23-08-2017 08:33AM

Synode wrote: »

Big shout out to the Boardsie who created that Electric Picnic 2017 lineup playlist. Has been brilliant listening to it on random. Thanks a mil

What playlist?

Griff77 · 23-08-2017 08:35AM

Does anyone know if there will be an off licence again this year and when you can order? Couldn't find any info on it. Cheers

irishfan9 · 23-08-2017 08:35AM

HairyCabbage wrote: »

What playlist?

yea link?

maximoose · 23-08-2017 08:37AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

yea link?

Electric Picnic 2017 Lineup

everlast75 · 23-08-2017 08:39AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

yea link?

Please and thanks never go astray..

andreac · 23-08-2017 08:42AM

brgn hntr wrote: »

Does anybody know if family camping tickets will be valid in the Eco campsite? We won't be bringing any kids! Will that matter? Do they check these things?

Thanks in advance.

No they won't be valid. Eco camping had to be applied for specially and it booked up very fast.

Poorside · 23-08-2017 08:42AM

Griff77 wrote: »

Does anyone know if there will be an off licence again this year and when you can order? Couldn't find any info on it. Cheers

yup, should be available later this week.

princemuzzy · 23-08-2017 08:46AM

brgn hntr wrote: »

Does anybody know if family camping tickets will be valid in the Eco campsite? We won't be bringing any kids! Will that matter? Do they check these things?

Thanks in advance.

if you applied and got eco camping you can use your family camping as an entrance ticket with no kids

if you had no kids the only difference is you wouldnt be allowed entry to the family camping campsite

princemuzzy · 23-08-2017 08:47AM

any good beer deals around ... i think tesco are doing 24 cans for 30 euro on most brands ... anyone know of anything better

brgn hntr · 23-08-2017 08:48AM

I have booked the eco camping places and have a regular weekend camping ticket. Just need 1 more ticket and wondered if the family ones would work in eco and without kids! Have NO wish to enter the family campsite!

Thanks for the responses! Getting fierce excited now!

princemuzzy · 23-08-2017 08:49AM

brgn hntr wrote: »

I have booked the eco camping places and have a regular weekend camping ticket. Just need 1 more ticket and wondered if the family ones would work in eco and without kids! Have NO wish to enter the family campsite!

Thanks for the responses! Getting fierce excited now!

you will be fine so ... cant wait now

adam240610 · 23-08-2017 08:59AM

princemuzzy wrote: »

any good beer deals around ... i think tesco are doing 24 cans for 30 euro on most brands ... anyone know of anything better

24 Canadians for 26 euro is what I got in tesco

Lzmunky · 23-08-2017 09:33AM

adam240610 wrote: »

24 Canadians for 26 euro is what I got in tesco

Your poor arse

Libadour · 23-08-2017 09:36AM

Think I'm going down the route of 24 Prazsky and a 700ml bottle of Jameson. Although Bavaria is usually my festival beer of choice so we'll see.

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