Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

walshb · 20-08-2017 02:36PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

pirlo80 wrote: »

Any one see Crawford at work last night/this morning ? Indongo well and truly out of his depth and he was a double world champion going into that fight. More of the same next week - except probably even more of a dismantling

Wicked left uppercut body shot..real speed and torque on it..

walshb · 20-08-2017 02:38PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

blade1 wrote: »

Wanna bet?

Sorry, I couldn't resist

No bother...IBAN and BIC please...you first...

Dr Turk Turkelton · 20-08-2017 02:46PM

Gintonious wrote: »

Why does someone have to bet for you to accept their position on something?

Where is the lad gone that was offering 500-1 and then ran away for a few days from the thread after Mellor offered to take him up on it and he bottled it?

Frank Bullitt · 20-08-2017 03:03PM

Floyd via DQ

Dr Turk Turkelton wrote: »

Where is the lad gone that was offering 500-1 and then ran away for a few days from the thread after Mellor offered to take him up on it and he bottled it?

How would I know where he has gone?

sonofenoch · 20-08-2017 03:08PM

Conor via DQ

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

It's really pointless posting any examples of McGregor in the octogon again other guys who can't box. He is competing in a completely different sport against a completely different animal in Floyd Mayeather.

If he lands a clean shot what's the difference between a high level MMA fighter and Floyd Mayweather .....does boxing breed supermen?

note the word if before anyone in the closed shop gets all upitty

GerryDerpy · 20-08-2017 03:15PM

Conor via DQ

sonofenoch wrote: »

If he lands a clean shot what's the difference between a high level MMA fighter and Floyd Mayweather .....does boxing breed supermen?

note the word if before anyone in the closed shop gets all upitty

Newton's 3 laws only apply to one sport didn't you know that?

walshb · 20-08-2017 03:17PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

sonofenoch wrote: »

If he lands a clean shot what's the difference between a high level MMA fighter and Floyd Mayweather .....does boxing breed supermen?

note the word if before anyone in the closed shop gets all upitty

Take out the word if and assume he does...

One needs to speculate what a big Conor shot looks like, feels like, its delivery, speed, angle, momentum, mechanics etc..

Will it be good enough to get this once in a lifetime result?

I really doubt it. Unless it comes out of nowhere and catches Floyd on the sweet spot flush..

In other words it needs almost perfection, which makes its likelihood even more unlikely!

I personally don't think he has the raw power and technique-delivery/speed to get this KO.

He has not got the innate boxing punching-striking speed or technique..at least not to the degree needed to beat real quality, as in tough chinned boxers.

sonofenoch · 20-08-2017 03:27PM

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Take out the word if and assume he does...

One needs to speculate what a big Conor shot looks like, feels like, its delivery, speed, angle, momentum, mechanics etc..

Will it be good enough to get this once in a lifetime result?

I really doubt it. Unless it comes out of nowhere and catches Floyd on the sweet spot flush..

In other words it needs almost perfection, which makes its likelihood even more unlikely!

I personally don't think he has the raw power and technique-delivery/speed to get this KO.

He has not got the innate boxing punching-striking speed or technique..at least not to the degree needed to beat real quality, as in tough chinned boxers.

If you're saying can he knock him out sparko with a 10 count ? I would say no because the evidence is not there to suggest that.........can he put him down on the canvas with a shot? the evidence there suggests he can, it's simple physiology

walshb · 20-08-2017 03:35PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

sonofenoch wrote: »

If you're saying can he knock him out sparko with a 10 count ? I would say no because the evidence is not there to suggest that.........can he put him down on the canvas with a shot? the evidence there suggests he can, it's simple physiology

I agree...

'Nothing' shots can drop men...

Positioning and feet and balance and circumstance come into it..

I am debating on the KO shot which I believed to be more the poster's point..

The kind of "wow, where did that punch come from?" that Conor needs here is just not something I see happening. He does not have the boxing ingredients needed to do it.

He's not a pro boxer..

Outlaw Pete · 20-08-2017 03:41PM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Nobody needs to be gambling to prove a single thing here..

I never mentioned Gambling

Oxford English Dictionary definition of 'Gambling':

"Take risky action in the hope of a desired result".

You see, the user said he "KNOWS" Floyd will win (McGregor has "zero control" over the outcome of this match according to them) and therefore is no risk involved nor hope needed.

So again, unless the user (and anyone else that suggests they also 'know' the outcome) posts up some betting receipts showing that they have placed significant amounts of money on Mayweather winning the fight, that to me will just mean that they are all talk........... as nobody would pass up the chance of free money.

sonofenoch · 20-08-2017 03:42PM

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

I agree...

'Nothing' shots can drop men...

Positioning and feet and balance and circumstance come into it..

I am debating on the KO shot which I believed to be more the poster's point..

The kind of "wow, where did that punch come from?" that Conor needs here is just not something I see happening. He does not have the boxing ingredients needed to do it.

He's not a pro boxer..

It wasn't the posters point, he said what the point in clips of McGregor dropping people to the floor in MMA got to do with boxing ........I'm saying if hit cleanly what's the difference?

Conor has 'knocked' someone out with a punch maybe but once in his known career.....even his biggest fans would say he's not a knock out artist in that respect.......dropping Floyd and doing it several times is a win for my money no matter what the bookies pay out, and he is capable of that

walshb · 20-08-2017 03:51PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

sonofenoch wrote: »

It wasn't the posters point, he said what the point in clips of McGregor dropping people to the floor in MMA got to do with boxing ........I'm saying if hit cleanly what's the difference?

Conor has 'knocked' someone out with a punch maybe but once in his known career.....even his biggest fans would say he's not a knock out artist in that respect.......dropping Floyd and doing it several times is a win for my money no matter what the bookies pay out, and he is capable of that

Capable of dropping Floyd?

Of course he is...

He cannot win this fight by just dropping him. He needs to drop him via KO or TKO him via accumulation.

Hasn't a prayer in either scenario..

But only a fool would claim that he cannot drop Floyd.

walshb · 20-08-2017 03:56PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

I never mentioned Gambling

Oxford English Dictionary definition of 'Gambling':

Play with semantics all you like..

This gambling/betting buzz is pure sh1t coming from you..

Outlaw Pete · 20-08-2017 03:56PM

Floyd via DQ

Well, let's not forget, this will be the first time Floyd has ever been hit by a fighter that's weighing close to 170lbs and wearing 8oz gloves.

walshb · 20-08-2017 03:57PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Well, let's not forget, this will be the first time Floyd has ever been hit by a fighter that's weighing close to 170lbs and wearing 8oz gloves.

Don't forget the reach 'advantage.'

sonofenoch · 20-08-2017 03:59PM

Conor via DQ

At least we've moved on from not being able to land a glove on Mayweather to dropping him as not being enough to win the fight, it's progression (not saying you in particular but having read you on the mma thread you probably have:D)

If he gets through once he can get through several times, he could get a win that way

and I'm not nailing my mast to a McGregor win, I can see all the scenarios......Floyd embarrassing with technique, or going the distance on decision but I can also see Conor being too much for him physically ......can see them clear as day

walshb · 20-08-2017 04:07PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

sonofenoch wrote: »

At least we've moved on from not being able to land a glove on Mayweather to dropping him as not being enough to win the fight, it's progression (not saying you in particular but having read you on the mma thread you probably have:D)

If he gets through once he can get through several times, he could get a win that way

and I'm not nailing my mast to a McGregor win, I can see all the scenarios......Floyd embarrassing with technique, or going the distance on decision but I can also see Conor being too much for him physically ......can see them clear as day

I respect your fight call. I completely disagree with it..

Particularly the "too much for him physically."

It's another theory doing the rds with no real merit or logic to it as regards boxing and the action involved in a boxing match with Floyd..

I would not only disagree, but would claim the opposite. Floyd will be able to use his far better experience and innate ring generalship to use Conor's size and weight against him.

I don't see this fight having much to do with physicality anyway, but should there be exchanges, you will see Floyd "winning" them..

Conor does not have, I believe the talent and skills and technique to use his weight 'advantage' to gain any upper hand. Floyd will be the one winning every area of this fight. It's his stage and he will own it all.

sonofenoch · 20-08-2017 04:10PM

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

I respect your fight call. I completely disagree with it..

Particularly the "too much for him physically."

It's another theory doing the rds with no real merit or logic to it as regards boxing and the action involved in a boxing match with Floyd..

I would not only disagree, but would claim the opposite. Floyd will be able to use his far better experience and innate ring generalship to use Conor's size and weight against him.

I don't see this fight having much to do with physicality anyway, but should there be exchanges, you will see Floyd "winning" them..

Conor does not have, I believe the talent and skills and technique to use his weight 'advantage' to gain any upper hand. Floyd will be the one winning every area of this fight. It's his stage and he will own it all.

Well tune in folks see what happens....

those unfortunate ones who think the whole thing is beneath them can have a sneaky peek after the fact depending on how favourable the outcome is for you

Outlaw Pete · 20-08-2017 04:18PM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Play with semantics all you like..

It's not semantics. When you know the outcome, there's no gamble. Simple.

walshb wrote: »

Don't forget the reach 'advantage.'

Not just about having a reach 'advantage' Walshie (which is not much by the way, 2" on paper - and I'd suggest even less given that Conor has broader shoulders) but it's more about him having a long reach regardless as it means he won't have to get as close to Floyd as some of the fighters did that have clipped him. Mosley, 70". Maidana, 69". Conor's being 74".

So, it all adds up to McGregor not being without a chance in this fight. A slim one, granted, but a chance nonetheless.

But for those of you that KNOW Floyd will win, I would advise opening an account with with an online Bookmaker, as they're giving away free cash to anyone that knows the outcome of sporting events each and every day.

snowflaker · 20-08-2017 09:34PM

Floyd via DQ

Anyone else just want this damned farce to be over already!

Danzy · 20-08-2017 11:15PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

snowflaker wrote: »

Anyone else just want this damned farce to be over already!

Not at all, the build up is much better than the fight will be, it will either be one sided, or unpretty boy flaker*.

that is a play on pretty boy floyd, not a dig at you.

walshb · 21-08-2017 08:22AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Danzy wrote: »

Not at all, the build up is much better than the fight will be, it will either be one sided, or unpretty boy flaker*.

that is a play on pretty boy floyd, not a dig at you.

The build up is pretty stale/stagnant to be fair. The same tired predictable nonsense from both..

I'm looking forward to bell 1..

weldoninhio · 21-08-2017 10:11AM

Floyd via DQ

http://www.the42.ie/robert-gorman-3550758-Aug2017/

Really good read!!

marcus001 · 21-08-2017 10:19AM

Erik Shin wrote: »

What Irishman calls draughts "checkers"... playing to the yanks again, whisht lad, your boy is going to end up looking ludo-crous next week

When using it in the same sentence as "chess". Draughts and chess doesn't have the same ring to it.

walshb · 21-08-2017 10:29AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

marcus001 wrote: »

When using it in the same sentence as "chess". Draughts and chess doesn't have the same ring to it.

This checkers/chess analogy is bull....

Boxing is the specific craft. The old craft, the revered craft.

Checkers is actually older than chess....

So, what point is trying to be made? Chess being seen as the really mathematical/intellectual/more options-moves game?

The better analogy is that Boxing is the master craftsman and MMA is the DIY man.

Frank Bullitt · 21-08-2017 10:35AM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

This checkers/chess analogy is bull....

Boxing is the specific craft. The old craft, the revered craft.

Checkers is actually older than chess....

So, what point is trying to be made? Chess being seen as the really mathematical/intellectual game?

The better analogy is that Boxing is the master craftsman and MMA is the DIY man.

He was just trying to make MMA out to be more advanced. I found his comments pretty silly as well, saying he showed boxers how to move and its light they finally saw the light.

maximoose · 21-08-2017 10:52AM

Floyd via DQ

Lifted this from the very good R/Boxing viewing guide

Estimated Start Time | Fight
6:05 PM |Andrew Tabiti vs Steve Cunningham
6:35 PM |Nathan Cleverly vs Badou Jack
7:20 PM |Gervonta Davis vs Francisco Fonseca
7:55 PM |Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor

So main event estimated around 4am for us

Eyes Down Field · 21-08-2017 11:03AM

Floyd via DQ

maximoose wrote: »

Lifted this from the very good R/Boxing viewing guide

Estimated Start Time | Fight
6:05 PM |Andrew Tabiti vs Steve Cunningham
6:35 PM |Nathan Cleverly vs Badou Jack
7:20 PM |Gervonta Davis vs Francisco Fonseca
7:55 PM |Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor

So main event estimated around 4am for us

Good luck with that. Boxing events always run over time. If you tune in at 4 you'll likely be watching the middle rounds of the Cleverly vs Jack fight.

walshb · 21-08-2017 11:08AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

maximoose wrote: »

Lifted this from the very good R/Boxing viewing guide

Estimated Start Time | Fight
6:05 PM |Andrew Tabiti vs Steve Cunningham
6:35 PM |Nathan Cleverly vs Badou Jack
7:20 PM |Gervonta Davis vs Francisco Fonseca
7:55 PM |Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor

So main event estimated around 4am for us

That would be a big surprise. I am guessing closer to 6.

maximoose · 21-08-2017 11:11AM

Floyd via DQ

Yeah estimated is the key word.

I'd rather get up than stay up for it - closer to 6 wouldn't be so bad

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