Technology and it's (deleterious?) effects on us

Kermit.de.frog · 19-08-2017 07:26PM #1

Social skills, the ability to perform basic tasks (like changing a plug, making a proper meal...) and "echo chambers" (where filters mean people only ever see news that validate their own viewpoints) are some of the things psychologists are concerned about for the generations coming up where everything comes easy with technology and is available on their phones.

I also read that mobile use is seen more and more as addictive.

The number of young people I nearly walk in to on a daily basis while they are looking at their phones grows all the time. It's like they are tranced and totally unaware of what is going on around them.

Then there is the narcissitic thing as well which is unhealthy in my opinion.

For the record I think technology is great. I just wonder whether upcoming generations face more mental health issues and whether anything can or should be done about it.

Does this concern you or do you think it's overblown?

19-08-2017 07:31PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Social skills, the ability to perform basic tasks (like changing a plug, making a proper meal...) and "echo chambers" (where filters mean people only ever see news that validate their own viewpoints) are some of the things psychologists are concerned about for the generations coming up where everything comes easy with technology and is available on their phones.

I also read that mobile use is seen more and more as addictive.

The number of young people I nearly walk in to on a daily basis while they are looking at their phones grows all the time. It's like they are tranced and totally unaware of what is going on around them.

Then there is the narcissitic thing as well which is unhealthy in my opinion.

For the record I think technology is great. I just wonder whether upcoming generations face more mental health issues and whether anything can or should be done about it.

Does this concern you or do you think it's overblown?

I tried to read a book a few weeks ago, and I hadnt my glasse's on, so I tried to enlarge the page...

Harry Palmr · 19-08-2017 07:34PM

My spelling has gone to pot, yes I resisted the chance for a cheap laugh thatKS to autocorrect.

briany · 19-08-2017 07:39PM

It doesn't really concern me as I just consider it a form of change. You'd need the perspective of history to see the true effect, is the other thing.

The introduction of television/VHS and radio made a huge change to how the general populace spent many of their evenings, and I'd say there's a whole lot less social interaction to be had staring at the TV than going down to the local ballroom or theatre. Still, society didn't end then.

You also have to look at people having their heads in their phones as more of a symptom than a cause. Simply put, if the alternative to using your phone was so great, you'd be doing that instead.

Jesus Wept · 19-08-2017 07:42PM

This plug changing lark, srysly.
1st, it's rarely required
2nd: it's probably not worth the both.
3rd: Any **** can figure it out by watching a 90 second youtube.

We probably won't even be using ****ing plugs in a decade. Either way.

Kermit.de.frog · 19-08-2017 07:43PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

My spelling has gone to pot.

Same. Not drastically but noticeable.

Of the potential issues down the road I think basic social skills is top of the list.

pickarooney · 19-08-2017 07:43PM

I have learned all manner of things from Thai cuisine to fixing a tumble drier from the internet so I'm at a loss as to how exactly access to information is making people ignorant.

For instance you could have looked up the correct spelling of deleterious, if you absolutely had to use that word, in a second, or let your spell checker catch the typo.

Lorelli! · 19-08-2017 07:44PM

Jake1 wrote: »

I tried to read a book a few weeks ago, and I hadnt my glasse's on, so I tried to enlarge the page...

I remember I couldn't find the remote control for the tv a while ago and for a second I thought to myself "just Google where it is"

19-08-2017 07:45PM

Lorelli! wrote: »

I remember I couldn't find the remote control for the tv a while ago and for a second I thought to myself "just Google where it is"

:D:D

Brilliant

freshpopcorn · 19-08-2017 07:49PM

I think that in the last few years I noticed a lot of people who wouldn't even be middle aged saying back in my day XXXX happened unlike the youth of Today!

briany · 19-08-2017 07:50PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Of the potential issues down the road I think basic social skills is top of the list.

If no-one will have any social skills, then no social skills will be necessary.

The Backwards Man · 19-08-2017 07:56PM

If it wasn't for the internet my only skills would be footing turf and drinking Tennent's.

Kermit.de.frog · 19-08-2017 08:16PM

pickarooney wrote: »

For instance you could have looked up the correct spelling of deleterious, if you absolutely had to use that word, in a second, or let your spell checker catch the typo.

Equally if you took the time to read the rules...

Grammar nazis not welcome

Not everybody is as perfect as you are. Some people have learning difficulties. Some people are dyslexic. Some people are stupid and finally some people just don't care about their spelling and grammar. It's not your job to police them.

Ficheall · 19-08-2017 08:40PM

It's definitely having an effect on our memory capabilities. It's easier to google something now than it is to remember how to do it in the first place.
Look at those documentaries on the London taxi drivers who had to memorise the entire road network of London before being given a licence, and now anyone can uber their way around with a GPS.

pickarooney · 19-08-2017 09:33PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Equally if you took the time to read the rules...

Yeah, a dyslexic is definitely going to pull out a word like deleterious. Pull the other one.

Kermit.de.frog · 19-08-2017 10:03PM

pickarooney wrote: »

Yeah, a dyslexic is definitely going to pull out a word like deleterious. Pull the other one.

It says "No Grammar Nazis"

Cee-Jay-Cee · 19-08-2017 10:15PM

My 7 year simply can't comprehend that I didn't have a phone or iPad when I was young. She asked today if when I was her age did my mammy used to let me watch YouTube videos.

I am very conscious of how much phones and technology are impacting on every ones lives and for that reason tv, phones and iPads/tablets ate very restricted in my children's lives and I ensure that they play outside as much as possible.

I know that will get harder to enforce as they get older but I at least want them to have memories of exploring through the fields that surround our home and being away on little adventures by themselves while I can.

prinzeugen · 20-08-2017 12:49AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Social skills, the ability to perform basic tasks (like changing a plug, making a proper meal...) and "echo chambers" (where filters mean people only ever see news that validate their own viewpoints) are some of the things psychologists are concerned about for the generations coming up where everything comes easy with technology and is available on their phones.

I also read that mobile use is seen more and more as addictive.

The number of young people I nearly walk in to on a daily basis while they are looking at their phones grows all the time. It's like they are tranced and totally unaware of what is going on around them.

Then there is the narcissitic thing as well which is unhealthy in my opinion.

For the record I think technology is great. I just wonder whether upcoming generations face more mental health issues and whether anything can or should be done about it.

Does this concern you or do you think it's overblown?

We are already seeing the mental health issues.

Kids that are constantly being told the are good looking on Facebook, Instagram etc can not handle rejection.

I have seen many young people go into total meltdown when things don't go the way google or an app told them it would.

For example a picture of a print at home ticket on a phone.. The can't understand the print bit.

These are the same people that champion AI as they can't be arsed to learn how to do basic stuff.

Are Am Eye · 20-08-2017 01:00AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It says "No Grammar Nazis"

"If you can quote the rules you can follow the rules" Tony Soprano.

Imagine a game of soccer where one player kept running up to the ref and saying "you should have warned that guy" "that was offside" "time is up on this game". Annoying, yes? Sitting back as a user and consistently directing the moderator like a minion is going to get you kicked off the pitch. The correct way to bring something to our attention is to report the post.

But do not abuse this feature. Report posts which clearly break the rules not just posts you don’t agree

Kermit.de.frog · 20-08-2017 01:26AM

prinzeugen wrote: »

We are already seeing the mental health issues.

Kids that are constantly being told the are good looking on Facebook, Instagram etc can not handle rejection.

Yeah that's what I mean. Bullying as well. I can only imagine how damaging that can be on Facebook to a target.

Baron Kurtz · 20-08-2017 01:30AM

Are Am Eye wrote: »

"If you can quote the rules you can follow the rules" Tony Soprano.

Imagine a game of soccer where one player kept running up to the ref and saying "you should have warned that guy" "that was offside" "time is up on this game". Annoying, yes? Sitting back as a user and consistently directing the moderator like a minion is going to get you kicked off the pitch. The correct way to bring something to our attention is to report the post.

But do not abuse this feature. Report posts which clearly break the rules not just posts you don’t agree

Tone said, If you can quote the rules, then you can obey them. To Paulie. He also said a lot of other cool stuff.

He'd also be embarrassed; harbour snippets of another's dialogue, mental weakness and vacuity, much to his chagrin, and eventually unload these thoughts to Melfi about someone snitching and talking about moderators and all that reporting of someone or something malarkey. He'd be pretty angry about it.

20-08-2017 01:43AM

pickarooney wrote: »

For instance you could have looked up the correct spelling of deleterious, if you absolutely had to use that word, in a second, or let your spell checker catch the typo.

My niece was posting on facebook how she would love a Henna tattoo but cant due to the age restrictions(she assumed there was the same age limit as regular tattoos). I did a quick google and found there are no restrictions and said so. Her response was "Oh great, now I just need to find one". :rolleyes:

In a total of about 20 seconds I found there is no restriction on what she wanted to do, and found a studio 3 miles from where she lives, but she was unable to find that information herself. Thats not the fault of technology. Thats just apathetic laziness.

That said, as another poster said, I am so flipping glad I wasn't a teenager in the smart phone age. I had a mobile when I was 16 but it was a monochrome brick with no camera. When I ran out of credit it became an expensive paper weight. I am confident my teens would have been much more difficult in an age of whatsapp and HD cameras and instant internet upload.

Rumpy Pumpy · 20-08-2017 01:56AM

I work in technology, but am becoming increasingly cynical about its impact on humanity. There has always been cranks giving out about the latest development - the record player, cinema, and TV for example.

I think the ubiquitous availability of the internet isn’t good though. It’s ever present, easy to access, and provides you with a constant stream of carefully curated material (advertising) that reinforces what you think you believe. It doesn’t really challenge or enlighten. It’s a quick shot of dopamine.

20-08-2017 01:58AM

Jesus Wept wrote: »

This plug changing lark, srysly.
1st, it's rarely required
2nd: it's probably not worth the both.
3rd: Any **** can figure it out by watching a 90 second youtube.

We probably won't even be using ****ing plugs in a decade. Either way.

Plugs! back in the day we used to be skilled in getting the second appliance into the socket by pushing the wires in "just right" before shoving in the plug.

That was before they put shrouding on the pins to stop those tricks, unless you used long unshielded wires.

20-08-2017 02:05AM

Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »

I work in technology, but am becoming increasingly cynical about its impact on humanity. .

I also work in IT, so I lke to get away from time to time from th eIT side of things (spekk checkers an the like) also the constant need to look at phones.#

I oftemn leave the phone at home swithed of whenever possible to have real freedom!.
Wiht tiso post afte afew beers and spellchecer disabled i have a bit more freedom.

too many people hide behind their technology these days.

20-08-2017 02:07AM

fúck that post looks like I'm more pissed than I feel!

only 7 cans!!!

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-08-2017 02:08AM

You know in the Wizard of Oz when it went from black and white to colour

Nearing 40 I think the opposite has happened

20-08-2017 02:10AM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

You know in the Wizard of Oz when it went from black and white to colour

Nearing 40 I think the opposite has happened

more like 256 shared of grey!
no matter what your opinion on anything, it's wrong in the eyes of someone.

lazybones32 · 20-08-2017 03:10PM

If watching too much tv is bad for the brain, replacing a big screen 6ft away, with a 12 square inch screen 1foot away from your face will have a similar on said brain effect I'd say.

People are strange when it comes to things that are bad for them. We still do them.

I'm not worried about future generations' ability to communicate...as i get older, they won't want to talk to me anyway. And boys will always have to listen to girls to feel a bit of teenage tit. No phone can compare.

20-08-2017 03:32PM

lazybones32 wrote: »

If watching too much tv is bad for the brain, replacing a big screen 6ft away, with a 12 square inch screen 1foot away from your face will have a similar on said brain effect I'd say.

The big difference is though, with a TV, you're generally just passively watching content, where as with a handheld device or PC, you're usually interacting with the content and clicking links so are playing an active part in the viewing process.

OldMrBrennan83 · 20-08-2017 05:01PM

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