Season 7 Episode 6 "Beyond the Wall" - "Non book readers" - Spoilers from post 2

weldoninhio · 17-08-2017 11:38AM

Paddy Cow wrote: »

It would have been brilliant (and more believable) if they had the Knight King raise his arms like in Hardhome and the dragon came out of the ice. The only reason I can think that they didn't do this is budget constraints. The chains were stupid. The wights fell in the lake and couldn't fight but somehow they can now swim underwater and use their skills to chain the dragon *rolls eyes*.

Who said that they swam?? They may have walked out from the shore into the water.

EagererBeaver · 17-08-2017 11:41AM

True, and if the last couple of episodes have taught us anything from Jaime and Jon's experiences, it's that sinking to the depths in Westerosi waters isn't as finite as you'd think.

GavRedKing · 17-08-2017 11:42AM

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Resurrecting Beric, again, would be ridiculous in my book. He's a nothing character.

I agree with ya but Melisandre might still have a part to play as shes the only other red priest that we know of, around and the lord of light has been mentioned by Beric and Melisandre, even if the Hound thinks hes probably c**t.

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biggebruv · 17-08-2017 11:46AM

I'm still upset the Dragon died anybody else? love those dragons lol
she better get some Dragon glass type armour on the other 2 pronto lol

GavRedKing · 17-08-2017 11:51AM

On a second viewing on a better quality torrent, it stuck out to me that Littlefinger seemed a little off when talking to Sansa, which led me to second guess had Arya killed him and taken his face to question Sansas motives?

I dont think theres much in it but he did seem a little quirkey, even for his standards.

Dravokivich · 17-08-2017 11:54AM

Skerries wrote: »

can't post this in funny yet

Why not? Similar have been done before?

rossie1977 · 17-08-2017 11:55AM

biggebruv wrote: »

I'm still upset the Dragon died anybody else? love those dragons lol
she better get some Dragon glass type armour on the other 2 pronto lol

Dragons like the direwolves are nothing but expendable filler which is unfortunate as they are more interesting than many of the main characters on the show lol

david75 · 17-08-2017 12:01PM

Ever watch the lord of the rings films?

9 hours in total. They didn't walk to mordor in 9hours. It took a year.
Wish people would get over the time / convenience thing. It's a fantasy show.

Penn · 17-08-2017 12:05PM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Why not? Similar have been done before?

Yeah I think it was posted/made the time he saved Bran and Meera. But I think posting it again would be a spoiler that he shows up in the leaked episode.

weldoninhio wrote: »

Where did you get your degree in Dragon Physiology and Anatomy?? :D:D

Hey if you're not spending 10 hours a week doing your own research into this sort of stuff, you're not a true GoT fan!

tayto lover · 17-08-2017 12:13PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

On a second viewing on a better quality torrent, it stuck out to me that Littlefinger seemed a little off when talking to Sansa, which led me to second guess had Arya killed him and taken his face to question Sansas motives?

I dont think theres much in it but he did seem a little quirkey, even for his standards.

How does she manage to grow to the size of the person she has killed and whose face she has taken?

alchemist33 · 17-08-2017 12:14PM

Dubh Geannain wrote: »

Anyone?

I counted nine in one long shot, then there were more in a later scene. "They're wearing red Star Fleet uniforms" I said to my wife. And sure enough they were, as they dropped one by one. They were just nameless characters there to emphasise how dangerous it all was.

marcus001 · 17-08-2017 12:16PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

On a second viewing on a better quality torrent, it stuck out to me that Littlefinger seemed a little off when talking to Sansa, which led me to second guess had Arya killed him and taken his face to question Sansas motives?

I dont think theres much in it but he did seem a little quirkey, even for his standards.

I know I thought that as well, but Aiden Gillen really struggles to play the same Littlefinger every episode. At first I thought it was to do with his character being changeable, but now I think it's just bad acting.

AlmightyCushion · 17-08-2017 12:17PM

tayto lover wrote: »

How does she manage to grow to the size of the person she has killed and whose face she has taken?

I think it's safe to assume she's not just cutting off someone's face and sellotaping it over her own and that there is some sort of magic involved.

alchemist33 · 17-08-2017 12:17PM

david75 wrote: »

Ever watch the lord of the rings films?

9 hours in total. They didn't walk to mordor in 9hours. It took a year.
Wish people would get over the time / convenience thing. It's a fantasy show.

Being a fantasy show shouldn't make a bit of difference, unless the characters have superpowers. Better writing should make these criticisms moot.

EagererBeaver · 17-08-2017 12:20PM

alchemist33 wrote: »

Being a fantasy show shouldn't make a bit of difference, unless the characters have superpowers. Better writing should make these criticisms moot.

Pod has sex god powers.

biggebruv · 17-08-2017 12:22PM

tayto lover wrote: »

How does she manage to grow to the size of the person she has killed and whose face she has taken?

yes can somebody please explain the whole many faces thing I just don't get it does her whole body turn into that person??

GavRedKing · 17-08-2017 12:23PM

tayto lover wrote: »

How does she manage to grow to the size of the person she has killed and whose face she has taken?

Im assuming its some sort of magic, it was never properly explained during her endless time in Braavos wsahing bodies and getting beaten up by the waif but if I was guessing, magic would be it.

rossie1977 · 17-08-2017 12:25PM

david75 wrote: »

Ever watch the lord of the rings films?

9 hours in total. They didn't walk to mordor in 9hours. It took a year.
Wish people would get over the time / convenience thing. It's a fantasy show.

Its a fantasy show but a fantasy show that's created its own boundaries over the past 6 years and is going far outside those boundaries this season.

GavRedKing · 17-08-2017 12:27PM

biggebruv wrote: »

yes can somebody please explain the whole many faces thing I just don't get it does her whole body turn into that person??

Its probably explained better in the books but I reckon because you've made an offering to the many faced gods, that when you put on the face, you become the physical embodyment of the offering you've given up, through magic or shapeshifting, or some such.

I'm spitballing with that theory though.

GBX · 17-08-2017 12:29PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Its a fantasy show but a fantasy show that's created its own boundaries over the past 6 years and is going far outside those boundaries this season.

The show created those boundaries therefore can adjust them as they see fit.

david75 · 17-08-2017 12:30PM

rossie1977 wrote: »

Its a fantasy show but a fantasy show that's created its own boundaries over the past 6 years and is going far outside those boundaries this season.

It's clear you can blame the shortened season for this but at the same time it shouldn't be a barrier to enjoying the story just cos it's bending a time taken rule.

Penn · 17-08-2017 12:32PM

GavRedKing wrote: »

Its probably explained better in the books but I reckon because you've made an offering to the many faced gods, that when you put on the face, you become the physical embodyment of the offering you've given up, through magic or shapeshifting, or some such.

I'm spitballing with that theory though.

I'd agree with that. It's more than just wearing the face and trying to speak like them. I think you physically become that person, height and all.

david75 · 17-08-2017 12:38PM

Penn wrote: »

I'd agree with that. It's more than just wearing the face and trying to speak like them. I think you physically become that person, height and all.

Remember too that the faceless man could appear to take any size of shape male or female.

17-08-2017 12:40PM

david75 wrote: »

Ever watch the lord of the rings films?

9 hours in total. They didn't walk to mordor in 9hours. It took a year.
Wish people would get over the time / convenience thing. It's a fantasy show.

It doesn't bother me that much but I completely understand the complaints. The show runners established their own rules and have broken them completely recently. Its not the same TV show. Recall back to a few seasons ago when an entire season was spent watching Arya and Sandor Clegane traveling around. That would have taken 5 minutes in the current season. That was character driven rather than plot driven. We are seeing an ocean worth of plot development with the depth of a puddle.

OneOfThem Stumbled · 17-08-2017 12:46PM

david75 wrote: »

Wish people would get over the time / convenience thing. It's a fantasy show.

I'd personally have found it perfectly reasonable for the company on the lake to have been rescued by the Millennium Falcon.

When the show says that Gendry can travel 400 kilometers through snow in a day, I say, "cool, but why didn't he use his super powers to destroy the wights to begin with?"

Penn · 17-08-2017 12:49PM

OneOfThem Stumbled wrote: »

When the show says that Gendry can travel 400 kilometers through snow in a day, I say, "cool, but why didn't he use his super powers to destroy the wights to begin with?"

The show didn't say that. Not even close.

david75 · 17-08-2017 12:54PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It doesn't bother me that much but I completely understand the complaints. The show runners established their own rules and have broken them completely recently. Its not the same TV show. Recall back to a few seasons ago when an entire season was spent watching Arya and Sandor Clegane traveling around. That would have taken 5 minutes in the current season. That was character driven rather than plot driven. We are seeing an ocean worth of plot development with the depth of a puddle.

Tbh I prefer it this way. It's is show in previous seasons took a really long time to tell not an awful lot. I found it plodding a few times and was it season 3 that was really just a load of filler? It is a shame there's only 7 episodes. this season of all of them deserved a full spread of 13 or even 15 episodes to do it justice. But here we are.

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17-08-2017 01:42PM

david75 wrote: »

Tbh I prefer it this way. It's is show in previous seasons took a really long time to tell not an awful lot. I found it plodding a few times and was it season 3 that was really just a load of filler? It is a shame there's only 7 episodes. this season of all of them deserved a full spread of 13 or even 15 episodes to do it justice. But here we are.

Riiiiiiiiiight. We're after very different things in that case. You wouldn't care about half the characters if it had this pace from the start.

Season 7 Episode 6 "Beyond the Wall" - "Non book readers" - Spoilers from post 2

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