Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

walshb wrote: »

My posts are clear and consistent..

There are more disciplines in MMA..

If I said what you claim I would rethink that.

No issue saying I was wrong or off target..

Unknowns? Subjective that...

You did say that. In fact you said, "You don't learn boxing, at least not completely. It's probably the most unique sport on earth in terms of variables and permutations and unknowns..."

So on one hand you are saying your posts are clear and consistent and then on the other, you're willing to rethink what you've posted once called out on it.

But, here's one to consider. Boxing is 36 minutes..

Your mind and body has to expect and plan for and cope with 11 more minutes of unknowns..

Boxing is 36 minutes with a 1 minute break every 3 minutes.
MMA is 25 minutes with a 1 minute break every 5 minutes.

You also face a much larger aresenal of attack in MMA compared to Boxing.

In boxing, you have to be concerned about being boxed.
In MMA, you have to be concerned about being boxed, kicked, elbowed, kneed, taken down, clinch work etc.

It is more mentally taxing to face a larger spectrum of attack, over a longer period than it is a smaller spectrum of attack over a shorter period.

Now, as you got onto me about other parts of your posts, what about your response to other parts of mine?

Boxing is a specialised craft - I agree.
MMA is a mixed bag - I would disagree based on how I believe you're trying to frame it. Case in point, Demian Maia, BJJ expert who is successful in MMA and would handle his own with the top BJJ guys.

Thurman having a better chance to contend in MMA - I don't know enough about him/boxing to be able to say to be honest but based on his record and the fact you picked him out, I assume he's very, very good. Therefore an athlete of his pedigree, I'd have no doubt had he went into MMA he could have been a contender.

normanoffside wrote: »

Everyone has a slim chance. Berto had a slim chance against Mayweather in his previous fight. Berto was about 40/1.
Berto would be a big favourite against McGregor in a boxing match yet McGregor here is a lot more favourite.
I'm looking at this as a pure mathematical outlier/money making opportunity. Completely emotionless. Mcgregor fanboy money is completely skewing the odds and I intend to profit from it!

Good for you, but what the fcuk does that have to do with anything?

You're as bad as Paulie for avoiding points put to you :P

Lots of users on this thread that give McGregor a chance have reasoned it and articulated it (including myself) but all they have been met with is strawman nonsense each and every day, with boxing forum regulars salivating for them to say Conor will batter Floyd, as that's the only argument they have an answer to.

The vast majority of arguments made on here going the other way about Conor's chances have been shown to be horse bollox. Some of ye saying Conor wouldn't land one punch on an amateur, and giving Floyd Snr a better chance. Waffling about the sweet science and how there couldn't possibly be a chance that McGregor, a mere cage fighter, would be able to deal with the sheer complexity and specialty of the kind of skills boxers have at their disposal.

You all sucked the bones off the Van Heerden footage, repeating how boxers would just school McGregor in a ring, laugh at him, and so applauded the news that the magic man was being brought in to show him just how out of his depth he is, but maybe teach him a few things that maybe he could use so that he wouldn't look too foolish......... but now that the magic man appears to have taken a bit of a pasting, he's a has been, a fat ex pro, who didn't have any sting anyway and sure that title he fought for is nothing...... guy can't be ghosted quick enough by you, all scrambling for excuses as it couldn't be that ye were wrong about him, now could it.

You wanna call me a fan boy for given him a slim chance of winning early doors by TKO.......... so be in it, that's your opinion, but it's a far fcuking cry from an informed one.

wonderfullife wrote: »

I'd back Conor against Maidana and Canelo all day of the week but the other 2 fair enough.

You think Conor beats Maidana and Canelo in a boxing match? Jesus Christ!

walshb wrote: »

Thanks for rejogging my memory..

I remember now. FFS, I have hundreds of posts on this thread. You can't expect me to remember the precise details of all them, hence my acceptance that I could be wrong from time to time..just not here it seems.

Clear and consistent. And I do not believe I said it had more unknowns and permutations than MMA..

I actually made a point to say this..

You said it was the most unique sport in the world in terms of variables, permutations and unknowns. And actually when I questioned you on it originally, you said it was equal to MMA.

So my question is - how can it possibly be equal?

It is the equivalent of saying there are as many ways to pass/score/kick in soccer as there are in football. It's utter nonsense.

normanoffside wrote: »

QUOTE=normanoffside;104359209]You think Conor beats Maidana and Canelo in a boxing match? Jesus Christ!

Actually watch this again. Maidana may be crude, but watch how he throws the fake jab 'trap' in order to make Floyd react and set up the big right hand. Despite his reputation as being crude he is actually showing great boxing skill. To say McGergor is better than this is ludicrous.
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Maidana didn't do a bad job at turning his head during the first replay either. I love that draw the jab/punch and counter move by MW.

Naos wrote: »

You said it was the most unique sport in the world in terms of variables, permutations and unknowns. And actually when I questioned you on it originally, you said it was equal to MMA.

So my question is - how can it possibly be equal?

It is the equivalent of saying there are as many ways to pass/score/kick in soccer as there are in football. It's utter nonsense.

Unknowns and variables and permutations...

They don't necessarily have to do solely with the stuff you can do in MMA compared to boxing..

Boxing is so specialised. It is loaded with subtleties and nuances...

So, think outside the box...

And remember that I never made the claim that boxing had more permutations, variables and unknowns than MMA..

You'll have to try harder to trip me up..

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Good for you, but what the fcuk does that have to do with anything?

You're as bad as Paulie for avoiding points put to you :P

Lots of users on this thread that give McGregor a chance have reasoned it and articulated it (including myself) but all they have been met with is strawman nonsense each and every day, with boxing forum regulars salivating for them to say Conor will batter Floyd, as that's the only argument they have an answer to.

The vast majority of arguments made on here going the other way about Conor's chances have been shown to be horse bollox. Some of ye saying Conor wouldn't land one punch on an amateur, and giving Floyd Snr a better chance. Waffling about the sweet science and how there couldn't possibly be a chance that McGregor, a mere cage fighter, would be able to deal with the sheer complexity and specialty of the kind of skills boxers have at their disposal.

You all sucked the bones off the Van Heerden footage, repeating how boxers would just school McGregor in a ring, laugh at him, and so applauded the news that the magic man was being brought in to show him just how out of his depth he is, but maybe teach him a few things that maybe he could use so that he wouldn't look too foolish......... but now that the magic man appears to have taken a bit of a pasting, he's a has been, a fat ex pro, who didn't have any sting anyway and sure that title he fought for is nothing...... guy can't be ghosted quick enough by you, all scrambling for excuses as it couldn't be that ye were wrong about him, now could it.

You wanna call me a fan boy for given him a slim chance of winning early doors by TKO.......... so be in it, that's you're opinion, but it's a far fcuking cry from an informed one.

Jesus Pete you have lost it. Google Katie Taylor vs Rigo. Katie lands a few blows. Do you think she would beat him?
FTR I think Katie has more chance of beating McGregor in a boxing match than McGregor does of beating Floyd...

Autochange wrote: »

Im 5 foot 9 and 170 lbs.
I also have a 0-0 boxing record like mcgregor. Would i beat Maidana too?

No, but you're a healthy BMI. Rejoice.

Naos wrote: »

Okay, even though you said it was the most unique sport in terms of variables etc, I take back that you said Boxing has more than MMA. You said that they are equal.

I'm asking you how is that possible? You can have these same subtelties and nuances in boxing as you can in MMA. Except MMA adds in additional subtelies and nuances, therefore they are not equal.

MMA has more permuations, variables and unknowns than boxing. Agreed?

Ways to fight and win and lose? Yes...permutations.

Unknowns? I don't agree or disagree..

Variables...boxing has such nuance and craft and detailed skills...tough one to call that.

walshb wrote: »

Maidana sleeps Mighty Mouse in the Octagon

Too big

Just an opinion...

Mighty Mouse has beaten guys as big as Maidana.

Naos wrote: »

Mighty Mouse has beaten guys as big as Maidana.

MM beats Maidana in the Octagon..

Read back to maybe why I posted that post..