Season 7 Episode 4 "The Spoils of War" - "Non book readers"

08-08-2017 06:32PM

Akrasia wrote: »

Its also possible that all 3 dragons could die in one epic battle that completely changes the tide of the war in favour of the Night King.

I think it's safe to assume, THAT definitely won't happen

Galwayguy35 · 08-08-2017 06:42PM

why didn't she bring the 3 dragons with her?

Pugzilla · 08-08-2017 06:43PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

why didn't she bring the 3 dragons with her?

CGI budget

Loafing Oaf · 08-08-2017 06:43PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

why didn't she bring the 3 dragons with her?

Does she have to be on a dragon's back for it to be targeted militarily?

Galwayguy35 · 08-08-2017 06:48PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Does she have to be on a dragon's back for it to be targeted militarily?

Yeah never thought of that.

SimonTemplar · 08-08-2017 07:05PM

One of the things I'm most curious about is how they are going to resolve the two main antagonist plot lines - Cersei and the white walkers.

Assuming Cersei will be defeated, either she will be defeated at the end of this season freeing up next season for the white walkers, or the two plots will continue to run together in the final season.

I'm going to predict that the massive battle at the end of this season will be white walkers attacking Winterfell. If Jon convinces Dany to help with her dragons, that would be an awesome episode. Can't wait to see dragons vs white walkers.

It's a shame they don't do cinema screenings for some episodes with these massive battles because they are wonderfully cinematic. Films are sent to cinemas digitally now so no technical reason why not. I'm sure they'd made a lot of revenue.

Loafing Oaf · 08-08-2017 07:05PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah never thought of that.

If so, I wonder might she consider training up Miss Andy or some other trusted ally to fly one of her babies, if they were put to the pin of their collar militarily...

Cina · 08-08-2017 07:05PM

Well you'd have to assume that without someone on their back, the dragons would just blaze everything and everyone they see, Dothraki included. She was obviously controlling when Drogon shot the flames with the "dracarys" command.

CMOTDibbler · 08-08-2017 07:20PM

Cina wrote: »

Well you'd have to assume that without someone on their back, the dragons would just blaze everything and everyone they see, Dothraki included. She was obviously controlling when Drogon shot the flames with the "dracarys" command.

All three of them attacked the slave master's fleet in Meereen.

Cina · 08-08-2017 07:28PM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

All three of them attacked the slave master's fleet in Meereen.

I don't remember any Dothraki being on those boats.

scooby77 · 08-08-2017 07:31PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Does she have to be on a dragon's back for it to be targeted militarily?

If only there was a brave bastard about with Targaryen blood in him to ride another alongside her!!!

Penn · 08-08-2017 08:08PM

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

All three of them attacked the slave master's fleet in Meereen.

Yeah, but she was on Drogon's back and the other two then attacked the same ship, so it's still possible she has to at least be controlling one of them (Drogon being the biggest) for the other two to follow that lead.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero · 08-08-2017 09:06PM

SimonTemplar wrote: »

One of the things I'm most curious about is how they are going to resolve the two main antagonist plot lines - Cersei and the white walkers.

Assuming Cersei will be defeated, either she will be defeated at the end of this season freeing up next season for the white walkers, or the two plots will continue to run together in the final season.

I'm going to predict that the massive battle at the end of this season will be white walkers attacking Winterfell. If Jon convinces Dany to help with her dragons, that would be an awesome episode. Can't wait to see dragons vs white walkers.

It's a shame they don't do cinema screenings for some episodes with these massive battles because they are wonderfully cinematic. Films are sent to cinemas digitally now so no technical reason why not. I'm sure they'd made a lot of revenue.

Quick question, does fire kill the whitewalkers?

Meant to ask this a while back, I watched all the episodes again before season 7 and twice there was (a) white walker(s) who walked through fire, at Hardhome when the Hut was ablaze, and when they went after Bran in the cave.
The second time was interesting because all the wights wouldn't go near the flames, but the white walkers just walked through it as if it wasn't there.

Pugzilla · 08-08-2017 09:14PM

Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »

Quick question, does fire kill the whitewalkers?

Meant to ask this a while back, I watched all the episodes again before season 7 and twice there was (a) white walker(s) who walked through fire, at Hardhome when the Hut was ablaze, and when they went after Bran in the cave.
The second time was interesting because all the wights wouldn't go near the flames, but the white walkers just walked through it as if it wasn't there.

I think Dragonfire can kill walkers. Valyrian steel was forged with dragonfire and then there's Dragonglass.
Dragons are magical creatures.

Davos also hinted at this.

Effects · 08-08-2017 09:21PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Does she have to be on a dragon's back for it to be targeted militarily?

Of course she does. It's not a drone.

Evade · 08-08-2017 09:21PM

Pugzilla wrote: »

I think Dragonfire can kill walkers

Or pretty much anything

Pugzilla · 08-08-2017 09:24PM

Evade wrote: »

Or pretty much anything

They could probably stop the white walkers right now if Dany flew the three dragons up past the wall and nuked them from orbit.

The Nightking was shocked at Hardhome when Jon Snow managed to kill just one walker. Whitewalkers wouldn't know what hit them.

Evade · 08-08-2017 09:49PM

I wonder how White Walkers would fare against wildfire. Cersei's probably got some more stashed away.

Slydice · 08-08-2017 10:03PM

I wonder how Dragons fare in the cold of Winter.

Lizards being cold blooded and all.

On the upside, my own first reaction to the question would be some form of epic looking armour. Though maybe that would hinder flight a bit.

Pugzilla · 08-08-2017 10:12PM

Slydice wrote: »

I wonder how Dragons fare in the cold of Winter.

Lizards being cold blooded and all.

On the upside, my own first reaction to the question would be some form of epic looking armour. Though maybe that would hinder flight a bit.

Skyrim is really cold and that place is full of dragons.

Slydice · 08-08-2017 10:26PM

Pugzilla wrote: »

Skyrim is really cold and that place is full of dragons.

How do they cope? They got armour or just all warm on the inside from the fire breathing or something?

naughto · 08-08-2017 10:42PM

https://m.imgur.com/a/TWGgF

mcgiggles · 08-08-2017 11:18PM

Thank you for that Naughto!!
I laughed wayyyyy too hard at them!!!

(its been a long Tuesday!!)

zzfh · 09-08-2017 12:19AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I'm presuming it was but you couldn't see. Is there anyone else it could have been? Dickon? Ed Sheeran?:p

'i see fire'

griffin100 · 09-08-2017 12:24AM

Just watched now after avoiding spoilers.

Danerys - Jon scenes just a bit meeehh

Aryia and Sansa scenes had just about the right amount of tension, these were good.

The final battler done well especially the burning Lannister troops but a wee bit predictable in that I expected Bron and one dragon to die, and it may come to pass yet.

It's starting to feel just a wee bit rushed, especially when you consider we haven't really seen white walkers get this season.

doing his

Ave Sodalis · 09-08-2017 12:37AM

griffin100 wrote:

The final battler done well especially the burning Lannister troops but a wee bit predictable in that I expected Bron and one dragon to die, and it may come to pass yet.

So it's predictable because it didn't do what you expected it to do?

Effects · 09-08-2017 12:37AM

griffin100 wrote: »

A wee bit predictable in that I expected Bron and one dragon to die, and it may come to pass yet.

So predicable in that both your predictions were wrong?

09-08-2017 02:13AM

Ozzyman review for episode 4...

Jaime: "I thought this was a puddle, it's turned into a fúcking ocean. What a shít day"

Bacchus · 09-08-2017 09:25AM

I posted this in the season 6 episode 8 thread last year...

Bacchus wrote: »

The faceless men plot was meandering and took a long time but at least when (if) Arya starts kicking ass as an assassin in Westeros there can be no complaints of "how did Arya suddenly become the most lethal killer in Westeros". They took their time to develop her as an assassin... the pay off better be worth it.

I guess I was wrong... there were still complaints...

pah wrote: »

I'm struggling a bit with Aryas skill level.

She barely beat the waif last season but now she's a fully fledged 16 yr old ninja assassin. Deflecting heavy blows from Brianne with needle. A stretch too far imo.

Penn · 09-08-2017 09:54AM

I agree that it makes absolute sense that Arya is now a deadly assassin/fighter.

That being said, they should have shown more of her fighting training in Seasons 5 & 6 rather than constantly just cleaning dead bodies and being questioned about being No One. Would have made that story a lot more palatable too.

Season 7 Episode 4 "The Spoils of War" - "Non book readers"

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