All Ireland Senior Football Championships 2017 - Read Mod Note Post #1

castletownman · 04-08-2017 02:55PM

I think the +9 is a great bet too.

Anyone else have the feeling that Monaghan haven't shown their true hand yet, and slightly reverted their set-up as soon as they lost to Down in order to be in prime condition for the QF and whoever they face? They have used the depth of their squad well so far, even if two of their wins were against Division Four teams. There's definitely a freshness there as opposed to other teams in the past coming in through the back-door.

I mean, the likes of Drew Wylie and Colin Walshe are due massive performances, and I would not be a bit surprised if the sight of the Dublin jersey on Saturday brings it out in them. Them inside with Ryan Wylie, with Vinnie Corey at centre-back, and Fintan Kelly and Dessie Mone on the wings, looks like a solid enough unit to me. Monaghan have given them decent games over the last couple of years in the League (I know different kettle of fish etc.), and I think it's just the testing game the Dubs need. It's going to be a lot closer than most pundits will call. Give McManus enough support ball up front (McCarron and McCarthy decent options off the bench too), and occupy Duffy on COS, and they aren't without a chance.

BonnieSituation · 04-08-2017 03:08PM

castletownman wrote: »

I think the +9 is a great bet too.

Anyone else have the feeling that Monaghan haven't shown their true hand yet, and slightly reverted their set-up as soon as they lost to Down in order to be in prime condition for the QF and whoever they face? They have used the depth of their squad well so far, even if two of their wins were against Division Four teams. There's definitely a freshness there as opposed to other teams in the past coming in through the back-door.

I mean, the likes of Drew Wylie and Colin Walshe are due massive performances, and I would not be a bit surprised if the sight of the Dublin jersey on Saturday brings it out in them. Them inside with Ryan Wylie, with Vinnie Corey at centre-back, and Fintan Kelly and Dessie Mone on the wings, looks like a solid enough unit to me. Monaghan have given them decent games over the last couple of years in the League (I know different kettle of fish etc.), and I think it's just the testing game the Dubs need. It's going to be a lot closer than most pundits will call. Give McManus enough support ball up front (McCarron and McCarthy decent options off the bench too), and occupy Duffy on COS, and they aren't without a chance.

I always wonder about these sorts of statements. Like smaller counties seem to be able to catch Kerry and Dublin on the hop" yet Kerry and Dublin aren't capable of doing likewise.

I think we're going to win pulling up.

corny · 04-08-2017 03:13PM

castletownman wrote: »

I think the +9 is a great bet too.

Anyone else have the feeling that Monaghan haven't shown their true hand yet, and slightly reverted their set-up as soon as they lost to Down in order to be in prime condition for the QF and whoever they face? They have used the depth of their squad well so far, even if two of their wins were against Division Four teams. There's definitely a freshness there as opposed to other teams in the past coming in through the back-door.

I mean, the likes of Drew Wylie and Colin Walshe are due massive performances, and I would not be a bit surprised if the sight of the Dublin jersey on Saturday brings it out in them. Them inside with Ryan Wylie, with Vinnie Corey at centre-back, and Fintan Kelly and Dessie Mone on the wings, looks like a solid enough unit to me. Monaghan have given them decent games over the last couple of years in the League (I know different kettle of fish etc.), and I think it's just the testing game the Dubs need. It's going to be a lot closer than most pundits will call. Give McManus enough support ball up front (McCarron and McCarthy decent options off the bench too), and occupy Duffy on COS, and they aren't without a chance.

Has that line up even started this season? Dessie Moan and Vinnie Corey come off the bench. Karl O Connell is playing well but none of their backs have been stellar (goals accepted).

Stopping Dublin would be represent a huge upturn in form imo.

castletownman · 04-08-2017 03:36PM

corny wrote: »

Has that line up even started this season? Dessie Moan and Vinnie Corey come off the bench. Karl O Connell is playing well but none of their backs have been stellar (goals accepted).

Stopping Dublin would be represent a huge upturn in form imo.

That's my point though. Genuinely feel they have been keeping the powder dry so so speak.

Then again I have had no luck backing against the handicap with Dublin so far this year and may be playing off fumes at this stage

Jayop · 04-08-2017 09:24PM

Got my tickets there for tomorrow. Ard Chomhairle seats with the Tae Pass and parking in the hotel.

A happy camper!!

Always number 1 · 04-08-2017 09:36PM

If there's going to be a shock tomorrow I think it'll be Armagh beating Tyrone. Everyone is talking up this Tyrone team but their win over Donegal doesn't look as convincing now when you look at Galway beating them and look what happened Galway last weekend.
Armagh have had a couple of decent performances in the qualifiers and the run in Croker last week could be worth a pt or 2 to them when you consider Tyrone haven't played there in this year's Championship.
Think Dublin will have too much for Monaghan but expect they'll only pull away in the last 10/15 mins

Jayop · 04-08-2017 09:38PM

Always number 1 wrote: »

If there's going to be a shock tomorrow I think it'll be Armagh beating Tyrone. Everyone is talking up this Tyrone team but their win over Donegal doesn't look as convincing now when you look at Galway beating them and look what happened Galway last weekend.
Armagh have had a couple of decent performances in the qualifiers and the run in Croker last week could be worth a pt or 2 to them when you consider Tyrone haven't played there in this year's Championship.
Think Dublin will have too much for Monaghan but expect they'll only pull away in the last 10/15 mins

Ah but sure you can play that game all day. Look at what we did to Derry and it took Mayo extra time to beat them. Look at what we did to Down and they beat Monaghan.

Just because team a beats team b and then team c beats team a it doesn't mean team c are better than team b.

Eyes Down Field · 04-08-2017 09:42PM

This weekend predictions.

Tyrone to beat Armagh
Dublin to beat Monaghan
Tipperary to beat Galway
Mayo to beat Roscommon.

As much as I would love Roscommon to beat Mayo, I feel last Sunday was a missed opportunity. The 2 early goals put a gloss on an otherwise poor attacking performance. If Roscommon are going to win, they will have to play better than that, A Connaught final level performance is need on Monday,

Always number 1 · 04-08-2017 09:44PM

My predictions are:
Armagh
Dublin
Tipperary
Mayo

OldMrBrennan83 · 05-08-2017 11:29AM

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Dirty Dingus McGee · 05-08-2017 11:35AM

Armagh v Tyrone Draw
Dublin by 12
Mayo by 7

Fr Tod Umptious · 05-08-2017 11:37AM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

I always wonder about these sorts of statements. Like smaller counties seem to be able to catch Kerry and Dublin on the hop" yet Kerry and Dublin aren't capable of doing likewise.

I think we're going to win pulling up.

Statements like "keeping their powder dry" and "not showing their hand" really are daft.

No team is going to intentional go out and play at a lower level just in order to keep some possible future opponent guessing about their true strengths.

If they do then they risk of not meeting that future opponent.

It's usually used when a team wins but totally underperforms in the process.

mono_mac · 05-08-2017 12:14PM

My prediction... MONAGHAN all the way

The_Kew_Tour · 05-08-2017 12:51PM

If Monaghan win it would be one of the shocks of all time.

The_Kew_Tour · 05-08-2017 12:52PM

Tyrone by 2
Dublin by 11
Mayo by 3

IamtheWalrus · 05-08-2017 01:03PM

Is Monaghan v Dublin game on BBC Northern Ireland?

Robson99 · 05-08-2017 01:04PM

Tyrone Armagh Draw
Dublin by 7
Roscommon by 1

Jayop · 05-08-2017 01:28PM

IamtheWalrus wrote: »

Is Monaghan v Dublin game on BBC Northern Ireland?

BBC only has the Ulster championship.

SecretsOfEarth · 05-08-2017 01:30PM

Tyrone by 4
Monaghan by 2
Mayo by 2
:P

ThunbergsAreGo · 05-08-2017 01:51PM

SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

Tyrone by 4
Monaghan by 2
Mayo by 2
:P

Dublin by 1
Tyrone by 5
Mayo by 7

PARlance · 05-08-2017 02:12PM

Armagh by 2
Monaghan by 1
Mayo by 5

Going for 3 upsets

Stoner · 05-08-2017 02:33PM

PARlance wrote:

Going for 3 upsets

Might as well throw in an earthquake in Tralee while you are at it !

keane2097 · 05-08-2017 02:38PM

Stoner wrote: »

Might as well throw in an earthquake in Tralee while you are at it !

As long as Connolly Park gets the worst of it we'd get over it.

Erik Shin · 05-08-2017 02:47PM

keane2097 wrote: »

As long as Connolly Park gets the worst of it we'd get over it.

If it takes Strand road and Soa road too...you won't hear any complaints from me

SecretsOfEarth · 05-08-2017 02:56PM

Stoner wrote: »

Might as well throw in an earthquake in Tralee while you are at it !

Ah feck we need our festival money first!

PARlance · 05-08-2017 03:10PM

Stoner wrote: »

Might as well throw in an earthquake in Tralee while you are at it !

Oh don't tease me, the in-laws are from Tralee.

ArnoldJRimmer · 05-08-2017 03:38PM

Tyrone by 5
Dublin by 8
Roscommon by 2

PhilipsR · 05-08-2017 03:57PM

Anyone got a stream for a person outside of Europe and could work on an iPhone...?

Stupid Sky.

DeadHand · 05-08-2017 04:04PM

I was looking forward to these games on RTE- only now do I see they've been pimped out to Sky.

We have an evening of Camogie instead. Both the people who'll actually watch that will be delighted.

MarcusP12 · 05-08-2017 04:04PM

PhilipsR wrote: »

Anyone got a stream for a person outside of Europe and could work on an iPhone...?

Stupid Sky.[/quote

androids are your only man for getting out of such holes....

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