N86 - Tralee to Dingle [advance works ongoing for Phase 3]

JMF240 · 10-03-2017 01:25PM

Kevwoody wrote: »

JMF240 wrote: »

Work on the new road seems to have slowed down in the last few weeks. Any word on this?

There is a load of rumours locally (I'm not local but on this road every month) and the truth is, the foreman of the job had a heart attack 4 weeks ago and was airlifted from Camp to Limerick where he is recovering from heart surgery. Hopefully he makes a full recovery.
There was extra machinery on route which was turned away, all staff are still on site, but are in both compounds full time servicing machinery.

Now not to be too harsh after a man almost died, but it is an absolute disgrace that only one man could run the entire job. I voiced concern about this crowd not being able to carry out this job, and unfortunately it seems I was right.
I mean, do they really think one foreman can oversee the entire project? Do they not have any civil engineers employed? Could they not get another foreman?

It's now 4 weeks since a bucket of dirt has been moved, and progress was already incredibly slow even before that.

Would not be one bit surprised if another competent contractor will have to step in here.

I'm local to the area myself but away a lot of the time. Never heard that and find it very strange too that someone would not take over from him, even temporarily. Thanks for the update.

Kevwoody · 29-03-2017 09:22AM

Just after driving to Dingle, one man/machine working at the Camp section, seems to be just tidying up bushes and roots, and the other section is at a complete standstill, one van parked in the site compound, no sign of anything happening on site, access gates are all closed and chained.

Don't really see any way forward for this crowd from here.

lottpaul · 05-04-2017 08:47AM

Report on Raidio na Gaeltachta this morning says that a Cork construction company - Allman? - is beginning work on the two sections of the N86 today -"widening and surfacing" was the term used -- and that more importantly there will be traffic light control on both sections. Looks like the Conor Pass or the Inch road for most of us for a while!

marno21 · 05-04-2017 06:48PM

lottpaul wrote: »

Report on Raidio na Gaeltachta this morning says that a Cork construction company - Allman? - is beginning work on the two sections of the N86 today -"widening and surfacing" was the term used -- and that more importantly there will be traffic light control on both sections. Looks like the Conor Pass or the Inch road for most of us for a while!

This is them here: http://www.allman.ie/

They recently did the N69 Rea-Tullig realignment outside Tralee.

Pity it's starting just as peak season on the N86 is starting - but progress is progress.

Kevwoody · 05-04-2017 06:58PM

lottpaul wrote: »

Report on Raidio na Gaeltachta this morning says that a Cork construction company - Allman? - is beginning work on the two sections of the N86 today -"widening and surfacing" was the term used -- and that more importantly there will be traffic light control on both sections. Looks like the Conor Pass or the Inch road for most of us for a while!

They must have finally found a "foreman" to tell the rest of the workers what to do. It's going to be interesting to see how this progresses.

Kevwoody · 05-04-2017 07:02PM

marno21 wrote: »

This is them here: http://www.allman.ie/

They recently did the N69 Rea-Tullig realignment outside Tralee.

Pity it's starting just as peak season on the N86 is starting - but progress is progress.

Just wondering Marno, you are a very vocal poster here on roads providing some great info and updates, but you have been very silent on the fact this project was started late 2016, and was at a standstill for 3 months due to the incompetence of the main contractor not having qualified personnel on site?

marno21 · 09-04-2017 06:19PM

http://www.independent.ie/regionals/kerryman/news/work-on-n86-to-intensify-in-coming-weeks-35593809.html`

Works on N86 to intensify in coming weeks. Similar to RnaG report by lottpaul above.

marno21 · 10-04-2017 01:37AM

Kevwoody wrote: »

Just wondering Marno, you are a very vocal poster here on roads providing some great info and updates, but you have been very silent on the fact this project was started late 2016, and was at a standstill for 3 months due to the incompetence of the main contractor not having qualified personnel on site?

As long as what the contractor is doing is in line with the contract issued to them I have no problem. This scheme seems to be pushing on this month so a month or two delay isn't much of an issue in the grand scheme of things, as there may have been other issues which caused the delay.

Hopefully all will be done soon and funding will become available for the other 4 sections of the N86 (which, unfortunately, are several years away due to funding constraints).

marno21 · 10-04-2017 02:24AM

While we're at it....

Completed:
d. Annascaul to Gortbreagoge (2012)

Construction:
b. Lispole to Ballynasare Lower
f. Ballygarret to Camp

Planned:
a. Dingle to Lispole (10.7km)
c. Ballynasare Lower to Annascaul (4.7km)
e. Gortbreagoge to Ballygarret (9.6km)
g. Camp Upper to Camp Lower (1.3km)

The schemes then line up as above from a. at Dingle to g. near the R560 junction at Camp. The villages of Annascaul and Lispole will not be bypassed. The schemes in total comprise 28km of roadway. The two schemes under construction should be complete by Summer 2018 latest.

It appears that €5m has been allocated to the sections in planning in 2017 and €2.2m allocated to the sections under construction.

Rojomur · 22-04-2017 10:28AM

I was just driving bact this way during the week and there seems to be a big push on now. A lot of clearing work done around Banog turn. I didnt notice if they have started on foundations for the overpass. There is also a lot of clearing work done just past Camp on the upper side of the road.

marno21 · 25-06-2017 05:18PM

Took a spin back the N86 today and serious earthworks being done on both sections.

It's looking like, weather or extreme weather allowing, these both sections will be ready to go for the summer 2018 season.

The section between Lispole and Ballynasare will be a breath of fresh air compared to what's there at the minute - serious improvements

lottpaul · 25-06-2017 09:38PM

marno21 wrote: »

The section between Lispole and Ballynasare will be a breath of fresh air compared to what's there at the minute - serious improvements

Very true. Should have posted myself to keep people up to speed.

Lots of truck movements between the 2 sites - full from Camp to Lispole - to build up an embankment below Garrynadur. Very noticable is the great view from outside the pub in Garry looking east. The trees that blocked everything have gone and it will be a great sweep of scenery when the new road opens. Traffic lights in operation some days but they don't cause too many delays and for the last week there has been an extra set at the hairpin bend just before Ballinclare graveyard. Seems to be work on reinforcing a bridge?
They have surely caught up on any time lost earlier in the year and would seem to be well on schedule.

marno21 · 25-06-2017 10:50PM

lottpaul wrote: »

Very true. Should have posted myself to keep people up to speed.
Lots of truck movements between the 2 sites - full from Camp to Lispole - to build up an embankment below Garrynadur. Very noticable is the great view from outside the pub in Garry looking east. The trees that blocked everything have gone and it will be a great sweep of scenery when the new road opens. Traffic lights in operation some days but they don't cause too many delays and for the last week there has been an extra set at the hairpin bend just before Ballinclare graveyard. Seems to be work on reinforcing a bridge?
They have surely caught up on any time lost earlier in the year and would seem to be well on schedule.

Yeah the work on the 2nd hairpin seems to be on one of the bridge walls.

It'll be an incredible and infinitely more safer view to traffic when the Lispole section opens. The difference in the road will be astounding and will hopefully generate even more interest in getting the rest of the scheme done when the public see what a difference it makes.

On another note, I'm surprised there's no work being done east of Camp, there's a few hairy bits between Camp and Blenerville.

Of course, Kerry CoCo and TII should also be examining the possibility of extending the Tralee bypass around to meet the N86. It'd be very useful given traffic volumes in the summer and how cramped the road is from the end of the bypass to Blennerville.

Mc Love · 26-06-2017 07:38AM

Looking forward to seeing what has been done so far, will be down that way in a week

lottpaul · 29-06-2017 01:45PM

Notice on Raidio na Gaeltachta today that traffic control (lights) will be in place 24/7 at Ballinasare from Monday next for a period of 6 weeks to facilitate drainage works.

Not part of the scheme (I presume) but there are lights this week at a small bridge on the N86 between Lispole and Dingle (the turn off for Kinard). They seem to be reinforcing the bridge, similar to the work at Ballinclare a week or so ago. Presume it's part of general works on the N86 but its a long time - if ever - that there have been so many traffic signals on that particular road

Mc Love · 02-07-2017 04:44PM

They've done a decent bit of road, was very interested to see how they'd link the road to lispole

marno21 · 08-07-2017 10:06PM

Stop go system now on the easterly end of the Lispole-Ballynasare section, from the east end of the scheme to the Ballynasare road turnoff. Half the road is now gone hence the road being down to one lane. Seems to be plenty of progress along that section.

The earthworks are continuing on the Camp section with no major noticeable difference. The great thing about this part is that there's a lovely view from the short section here that's going to be bypassed, so it could make a great parking layby now that the traffic will be on the offline element here.

EDIT: Stop go system at Ballynasare is in place til 29 September, for your information.

Rojomur · 04-08-2017 12:18AM

Was back this way today. A lot of clearing work on left side of road from lispole up to Gorry...most of tall trees across from Sullivans pub cut down. Large mound created for overpass further along past banogue turn and a lot of widening groundwork ( laying of hardcore ) done further up where overpass meets existing road up towards Analack turn....Near camp..as in west of camp....it looks like the earth mound stabilisation looks near completion so hopefully widening and digging for the laying of hardcore can start shortly..

marno21 · 08-08-2017 07:42PM

Westbound traffic was left on the new road westbound by the Ballynasare turnoff for the Bank Holiday weekend. No stop go system in place, most of the work is done at that section.

Has a house been CPOd on the left going towards Annascaul just after Lispole, they have quite a tight area to work with from Lispole to the new offline section before the Banogue hairpin.

The Camp section looks to have earthworks done in places as above, they have it fairly well planned out as the western section ties directly into the bridge whereas the current road meets it at an angle.

lottpaul · 08-08-2017 08:44PM

marno21 wrote: »

Has a house been CPOd on the left going towards Annascaul just after Lispole, they have quite a tight area to work with from Lispole to the new offline section before the Banogue hairpin.

First house on the left just past entrance to Lispole school was CPO and has been vacant for a while. Rumours of its imminent demolition float around every month or so. No sign of it happening yet, but it is due to go.

As a separate question someone might know what is the significance of the different colours on wooden stakes in the planning stages of road schemes?
I have seen ones painted with red, yellow and blue tips. The reason I ask is that there is now a section of road leading up to Lispole bridge with lines of blue stakes on either side - some in peoples front gardens, some in fields. They seem to continue for a couple of 100m on the Dingle side of the bridge. Not part of the current scheme I know but wondered are they part of the pre-planning for the next stage?

marno21 · 08-08-2017 09:21PM

lottpaul wrote: »

First house on the left just past entrance to Lispole school was CPO and has been vacant for a while. Rumours of its imminent demolition float around every month or so. No sign of it happening yet, but it is due to go.

As a separate question someone might know what is the significance of the different colours on wooden stakes in the planning stages of road schemes?
I have seen ones painted with red, yellow and blue tips. The reason I ask is that there is now a section of road leading up to Lispole bridge with lines of blue stakes on either side - some in peoples front gardens, some in fields. They seem to continue for a couple of 100m on the Dingle side of the bridge. Not part of the current scheme I know but wondered are they part of the pre-planning for the next stage?

Interesting, was wondering when it would go given the heavy work in the area.

There is land valuation ongoing along the rest of the route Dingle-Lispole, Ballynasare-Annascaul, Gortbreagoge-Ballygarret & Camp-R560 junction, which may explain the stakes you are on about.

lottpaul · 09-08-2017 06:11PM

Regarding the house mentioned above I asked around today and, for what its worth, I was told that the delay in demolition is due to the discovery of Japanese knotweed in the garden and work will only proceed in that section when it has been removed/eradicated.
Not sure if this is accurate but if it is then there are going to be big problems on other sections of the N86 because knotweed is widespread on the verges between Lispole and Dingle.

lottpaul · 23-08-2017 06:42PM

Raidio na Gaeltachta news report on the roadworks today. A lot of random info tossed out and they don't usually give sources but they said the work will continue until April 2018, that the house mentioned above was demolished today, that one other house is to be demolished in Camp but that wont be happening for a few years as the Camp/Tralee section won't commence for "years".

marno21 · 14-09-2017 12:47AM

Earthworks on the standard parts of the offline Ballynasare section seem to be fairly complete - a few bits left including where the new road crosses the old and a stream to be culverted.

Section closer Listowel is a bit further behind with the issues as above. House is almost gone now with just the front door and foundation remaining.

Earthworks continuing as normal on the Camp section. This section is a lot more straightforward and is likely seeing earth removed as it's required back at Ballynasare.

All in all going well - will be a nice improvement on the road to Dingle when complete.

Mc Love · 14-09-2017 08:41AM

marno21 wrote: »

Earthworks on the standard parts of the offline Ballynasare section seem to be fairly complete - a few bits left including where the new road crosses the old and a stream to be culverted.

Section closer Listowel is a bit further behind with the issues as above. House is almost gone now with just the front door and foundation remaining.

Earthworks continuing as normal on the Camp section. This section is a lot more straightforward and is likely seeing earth removed as it's required back at Ballynasare.

All in all going well - will be a nice improvement on the road to Dingle when complete.

I assume you mean Lispole? Haha - any pictures? Due to travel down in a few weeks!

Kevwoody · 14-09-2017 09:18AM

I was out this road on Tuesday, seems to be a real push on now, a long way to go yet though.
It will be interesting to see how they divert traffic while they infill the section the existing road sits on just before the hairpin at Lispole. Perhaps a temporary kind of slip road?

BelfastVanMan · 14-09-2017 09:28AM

Kevwoody wrote: »

I was out this road on Tuesday, seems to be a real push on now, a long way to go yet though.
It will be interesting to see how they divert traffic while they infill the section the existing road sits on just before the hairpin at Lispole. Perhaps a temporary kind of slip road?

They did something similar on the last n86 upgrade.

lottpaul · 27-09-2017 02:21PM

Announcement on Raidio na G lunchtime news that temporary traffic signals will be in place from O'Sullivans pub in Garrynadur to the village of Lispole -- I presume somewhere near Dorgans garage - beginning on Monday next, October 2nd. This is to allow the widening of that section of the N86. Thought I heard him say too that the lights at Ballynasare will be gone and advising drivers to take care on the temporary road surface etc. Will listen again at 5 and change if need be.

marno21 · 27-09-2017 02:23PM

lottpaul wrote: »

Announcement on Raidio na G lunchtime news that temporary traffic signals will be in place from O'Sullivans pub in Garrynadur to the village of Lispole -- I presume somewhere near Dorgans garage - beginning on Monday next, October 2nd. This is to allow the widening of that section of the N86. Thought I heard him say too that the lights at Ballynasare will be gone and advising drivers to take care on the temporary road surface etc. Will listen again at 5 and change if need be.

Nice one, pace is slower back there

I've a few pics taken I'll throw them up later. Not the best but a drone is your only man for this scheme

marno21 · 14-10-2017 07:47PM

Was back there today..

Near Camp, the whole length of the upgrade is still only at earthworks, although the part closest to Camp is starting to take shape and should be seeing tarmac in the next few weeks. It's a bit slower than the western section but can likely be done fairly quickly when ready.

Back at Ballynasare, the eastern section, which is an online upgrade, is now open for driving and just requires another layer of tarmac and it's ready to go. The local road down to the left going westbound has also been realigned and looks ready for driving. Where the new road diverges off to the right, traffic is now sent down what will be the tie in with the old road on the Annascaul side, onto the old road down towards the Banogue hairpin. Earthworks on the offline section seem to be done back at the tie in near Kate's Cross and the online widening has begun there. The house that was knocked is now completely gone.

Overall, things seem to be on track for the April opening date. Traffic management will be required in the new year when the section taking the new road through the existing N86 will have to be done, but thankfully at the quiet end of the year. Hopefully the storm this Monday doesn't cause any setbacks and that there's no incidents on site.

I can throw up the pics later from 3 weeks ago. It's a very difficult scheme to photograph as there's few convenient places to pull in. A drone would be the right job.

N86 - Tralee to Dingle [advance works ongoing for Phase 3]

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