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Eir rural FTTH thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Blogin


    If all you want is a decent tv service (I.e. not sky sports) then the human Freesat box is great. Does a good job of recording a series, 8 day UK EPG, showcase and good interface. Just replace sky box, same satellite.

    Almost as good as basic sky+ and it's free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    If you go with sky wait till they have a good deal like the free 32 inch TV.Im going to cancel my sky because want the better sky box they dont really care about there current install base and give them notting free my sky box really outdated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭sean72


    Gonzo wrote: »
    with Eir FTTH, only Eir offer TV and it's not good. Vodafone also have a tv service but as they dont resell Eir's FTTH, it's not available unless you have a decent FTTC connection.

    The only options are Eir TV, Sky dish or a Free to air system.

    When you say Eir’s not good do you mean the selection of channels or the quality of the connection?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭sean72


    Blogin wrote: »
    If all you want is a decent tv service (I.e. not sky sports) then the human Freesat box is great. Does a good job of recording a series, 8 day UK EPG, showcase and good interface. Just replace sky box, same satellite.

    Almost as good as basic sky+ and it's free.

    I currently have the Humax it’s a great box but I was looking for a way to get the sports channels really. Sky, BT, Eir etc. Thought there’d be a bundle with FTTH of some sort. Is there an issue with FTTH and TV???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    sean72 wrote: »
    Blogin wrote: »
    If all you want is a decent tv service (I.e. not sky sports) then the human Freesat box is great. Does a good job of recording a series, 8 day UK EPG, showcase and good interface. Just replace sky box, same satellite.

    Almost as good as basic sky+ and it's free.

    I currently have the Humax it’s a great box but I was looking for a way to get the sports channels really. Sky, BT, Eir etc. Thought there’d be a bundle with FTTH of some sort. Is there an issue with FTTH and TV???
    It should be fine with FTTH


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    sean72 wrote: »
    When you say Eir’s not good do you mean the selection of channels or the quality of the connection?

    The hardware. And cutting corners using homeplugs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭Blogin


    ED E wrote: »
    The hardware. And cutting corners using homeplugs.

    My sister's both have the eir tv service. The channels are fine. They really dislike the interface. Not as friendly as sky or humax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Gwynston


    Gwynston wrote: »
    So I called Eir yesterday (we're already a customer) and got an install date for this Friday already! :D
    Here's hoping it's a straightforward install through the existing copper-line ducting to the pole just outside our garden wall. Can't wait!
    Got a call this morning from someone calling themselves (I think) the "Eir Connections Service", or something along those lines... I presume they're the people who organise the installation engineer timetables :confused:

    They said that my line isn't actually due to be live until Wednesday, so they can't confirm my install date until then and will ring me back to arrange it.

    So not quite as imminent as I was hoping... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭Chieftain


    Has anyone had to get a trench dug to get the FTTH installed and if so how expensive is it. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    I have the eir tv and the box works quite responsively and fairly easy to use for recording series etc.

    I didn't have to put home plugs in though because I have a good bit of cat5e cable in the walls in my house. They told me the home plugs would be no extra but I just said to use my cables in the wall.
    The quality of the picture is perfect compared to my satellite dish which must be getting blocked by trees.

    But if the price goes up my too much after my 18month contract I might get a humax box and move the dish to avoid the trees.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭BandMember


    sean72 wrote: »
    I currently have the Humax it’s a great box but I was looking for a way to get the sports channels really. Sky, BT, Eir etc. Thought there’d be a bundle with FTTH of some sort. Is there an issue with FTTH and TV???

    All Eir broadband customers get all the BT Sport and Eir Sports channels for free - you just add them to your Sky card (don't need an active subscription) or use the app.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 265 ✭✭lukejr


    lukejr wrote: »
    Great, I see it now. Will give them a call on Monday. Thanks

    Called Digiweb, they reply on Eir infrastructure so due to Eir delaying the erecting of the pole Digiweb cannot help me until that's done. From order date to expected install date by Eir is at least 5 months and I don't have confidence it'll be done by October as it was suppose to be done by July...

    Anyone else having Eir install dates missed, delayed and delayed again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Ricta


    I just did a check (again) for availability of FTTH on fibrerollout.ie
    I put my eircode into the "check rural 300K" section and got a positive result, "Great news, Fibre Broadband is now available to you offering speeds of between 30Mb/s and 1000Mb/s"
    Then I looked at my house on the map and see it is still blue/planned, although the vast bulk of my neighbours are green, including next door on both sides; one of them is actually connected.
    So I tried the "Check Number" section, inputting area code, number and eircode, and got a negative result, "Broadband with speeds up to 6Mb/s is available at your address". I actually have about 3.5Mb/s on a good day.

    I have, a few weeks ago, sent a query to fibrepower@openeir.ie, which they acknowledged, but have not answered my questions about when I will be live or why I am still "planned" while my neighbour is connected.

    I had a chat with some OpenEir (not KN) techs, who were working on a fault recently on my road, about it, and they said it's bullshine that I cannot get connected, "the fibre is live and we are all on the same fibre, if it's live for my neighbours, it's live for me", to paraphrase.

    I asked if it might be that all the necessary ports in the exchange were not yet tested/commissioned, and that this might be done on a phased basis, and they just have not got around to mine yet. They said no, once the fibre went live every house it passed should be able to be connected.

    On the fibre from the exchange, that passes my house, there are a total of 79 green and 16 blue. I'm not at the end of the fibre. The blue houses seemed to be randomly scattered around the fibre, both close to, and far from, the exchange.

    The Openeir tech strongly suggested that there must be some problem with my eircode, but wasn't able to suggest where I might go to get that checked.

    My eircode is correct on finder.eircode.ie, funnily enough, on the fibrerollout page, the eircode has a different address (which is correct in a way because there is always confusion between what the correct townland name is here, but sin scéal eile!) Anyway I double checked with my connected, and other, neighbours eircodes and the same difference of addresses is there for them too.

    I could sit back and wait until, hopefully, some day, my house status will change to green on the map. But that has a risk that if there is something that needs to be corrected re my info on the database, it might never go green.

    Does anyone know of any rationale why some houses might still be blue on a live fibre?

    Or why the "check rural 300K" section got a positive result and the "Check Number" section a negative?

    I'm in Co. Galway, btw, on the Turloughmore exchange.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Ricta wrote: »
    I just did a check (again) for availability of FTTH on fibrerollout.ie
    I put my eircode into the "check rural 300K" section and got a positive result, "Great news, Fibre Broadband is now available to you offering speeds of between 30Mb/s and 1000Mb/s"
    Then I looked at my house on the map and see it is still blue/planned, although the vast bulk of my neighbours are green, including next door on both sides; one of them is actually connected.
    So I tried the "Check Number" section, inputting area code, number and eircode, and got a negative result, "Broadband with speeds up to 6Mb/s is available at your address". I actually have about 3.5Mb/s on a good day.

    I have, a few weeks ago, sent a query to fibrepower@openeir.ie, which they acknowledged, but have not answered my questions about when I will be live or why I am still "planned" while my neighbour is connected.

    I had a chat with some OpenEir (not KN) techs, who were working on a fault recently on my road, about it, and they said it's bullshine that I cannot get connected, "the fibre is live and we are all on the same fibre, if it's live for my neighbours, it's live for me", to paraphrase.

    I asked if it might be that all the necessary ports in the exchange were not yet tested/commissioned, and that this might be done on a phased basis, and they just have not got around to mine yet. They said no, once the fibre went live every house it passed should be able to be connected.

    On the fibre from the exchange, that passes my house, there are a total of 79 green and 16 blue. I'm not at the end of the fibre. The blue houses seemed to be randomly scattered around the fibre, both close to, and far from, the exchange.

    The Openeir tech strongly suggested that there must be some problem with my eircode, but wasn't able to suggest where I might go to get that checked.

    My eircode is correct on finder.eircode.ie, funnily enough, on the fibrerollout page, the eircode has a different address (which is correct in a way because there is always confusion between what the correct townland name is here, but sin sc eile!) Anyway I double checked with my connected, and other, neighbours eircodes and the same difference of addresses is there for them too.

    I could sit back and wait until, hopefully, some day, my house status will change to green on the map. But that has a risk that if there is something that needs to be corrected re my info on the database, it might never go green.

    Does anyone know of any rationale why some houses might still be blue on a live fibre?

    Or why the "check rural 300K" section got a positive result and the "Check Number" section a negative?

    I'm in Co. Galway, btw, on the Turloughmore exchange.

    have you tried every method of checking your number?

    first go to https://www.eir.ie/broadband/ and put in your telephone number and check. You don't need an eircode for this checker.

    The next one will fail for you because it requires an Eircode.:https://www.eir.ie/broadband/1000mb-fibre/

    On the http://fibrerollout.ie/ website check by eircode and telephone number together will provide a positive result if the telephone line is passing even if the Eircode isn't.

    I'm in a similar situation to yourself, my Eircode is completely failing, my house is marked blue while all the other houses around me are marked green.

    My telephone line passes the test but the eircode fails. I was able to get FTTH as my telephone number passes. Ive told OpenEir a number of times about my Eircode but the error still hasn't been fixed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    The FTTH crews marked your EIRCODE as active for FTTH.
    Your PH Number has not be matched to your EIRCODE.
    So your PH just gives the copper prequal value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭RoYoBo


    Opposite for me - my telephone number fails and I get offered congratulations and a speed of up to 5M online! My Eircode, however, passes the test and I've been told I'm good to go with this for 1000M. My area is included in the premises passed numbers for June - no one I know has an actual connection.

    Eir were happy to take/push my order through a month ago (since cancelled by me) though on the ground nothing is actually happening yet. OpenEir says November is the best estimate.

    How is the ordinary man/woman in the street supposed to know where they stand with this shambles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Ricta


    Gonzo wrote: »

    first go to https://www.eir.ie/broadband/ and put in your telephone number and check. You don't need an eircode for this checker.

    The next one will fail for you because it requires an Eircode.:https://www.eir.ie/broadband/1000mb-fibre/

    On the http://fibrerollout.ie/ website check by eircode and telephone number together will provide a positive result if the telephone line is passing even if the Eircode isn't.

    I'm in a similar situation to yourself, my Eircode is completely failing, my house is marked blue while all the other houses around me are marked green.

    My telephone line passes the test but the eircode fails. I was able to get FTTH as my telephone number passes. Ive told OpenEir a number of times about my Eircode but the error still hasn't been fixed.

    On the eir website, checking my phonline alone never comes back with a result, just getting the spinning circle for ever while it goes off and checks.

    On the eir website, checking my eircode alone, passes, FTTH available.

    On the fibrerollout site my phone number + eircode fails, but my eircode alone passes in the "check rural 300K"

    So I will try contacting a provider and insist they use my eircode, not my number, to check for availability. Though I think I have read in some threads that the sales teams don't seem to have the ability to check eircodes, just numbers. We'll see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭Ricta


    ED E wrote: »
    The FTTH crews marked your EIRCODE as active for FTTH.
    Your PH Number has not be matched to your EIRCODE.
    So your PH just gives the copper prequal value.

    Is there any way to get the phone number correctly matched to my eircode?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,406 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    seems like Virgin Media could be expanding to Dunshaughlin. I seen KN working on fibre cable all last week in Maelduin (very similar looking to Open Eir's fibre), an estate on the eastern side of the town. There is another 300 house estate about to be built in the east of the town, not far from my home and another 90 house estate to be built opposite the industrial estate, could be the reason for this.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057767859


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    Just signed up for 150Mb BB @ €55 per month. Got transcript of chat which has assurance that I will be only charged €55 and no extras.
    Email from Eir with contract......Guess what.....price is now €57.

    Web chat assured me ....no extras.

    They are unbelievable.......do they do anything honest????????

    And I am in credit with this crowd of chancers.

    Buyer be very aware. I am paying what I agreed to pay...€55


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    Yeah thats the direct debit charge, I had that at first too. If you go with direct debit it will be €55 a month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    I asked in transcript was there any extra charges......was told no extra charges.
    If I travel to nearest Eir shop and sign up in person then I will have option of NOT paying by DD at no extra costs.
    I will do that if I have to, but I just want Eir to do what we agreed BEFORE I opted for fibre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    Latest update: just received the following from Openeir,
    Thank you for your recent query regarding the availability of fibre in your area.

    Based on the information you provided, I have reviewed your details and I can advise, you are within an area due to be fibre enabled; the current forecast date suggests that your area should be connected to the fibre network by December 2017.

    For further updates on the fibre rollout out progress in your area please refer to http://fibrerollout.ie/eircode-lookup/

    Kind regards,

    Jennifer

    Open Eir Fibre Power Team

    Before I agreed contract with Eir sales today I was assured by Eir sales and their web site that fibre was live in my area and they would call to install within 4-7 days. I have it in writing.
    Unbelievable......not really!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭RoYoBo


    garroff wrote: »
    Latest update: just received the following from Openeir,
    Thank you for your recent query regarding the availability of fibre in your area.

    Based on the information you provided, I have reviewed your details and I can advise, you are within an area due to be fibre enabled; the current forecast date suggests that your area should be connected to the fibre network by December 2017.

    For further updates on the fibre rollout out progress in your area please refer to http://fibrerollout.ie/eircode-lookup/

    Kind regards,

    Jennifer

    Open Eir Fibre Power Team

    Before I agreed contract with Eir sales today I was assured by Eir sales and their web site that fibre was live in my area and they would call to install within 4-7 days. I have it in writing.
    Unbelievable......not really!!!!!!

    Have you already signed a contract with Eir? I'm sure you're aware from this thread that even if FTTH is unavailable, your other services will be moved to Eir if you don't cancel asap. Maybe you're the exception that proves the rule and you'll actually BE connected in 4-7 days. Do please keep us in the loop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭Dr. Nick


    KN and McCabes(?) working on road between Dunsany and Kiltale today (Tara Exchange). Underground section.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭garroff


    Will do. I will cancel within 14 days if no install. Will then wait till out of contract with Eir and move to another ISP even if not fibre.
    Enough is enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Dr. Nick wrote: »
    KN and McCabes(?) working on road between Dunsany and Kiltale today (Tara Exchange). Underground section.

    McCann cabling most likely.

    http://www.mccanncablingsolutions.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭sean72


    Excuse the stupidity but where the FTTH (yellow) line is activated and the houses along the line turn green from blue, why are there some houses that remain blue along the activated line?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    sean72 wrote: »
    Excuse the stupidity but where the FTTH (yellow) line is activated and the houses along the line turn green from blue, why are there some houses that remain blue along the activated line?

    Technically yes it is presumed that the houses turn green the fibre cables are live. However there has been several postings saying that if your house is green it is not always the case that the fibre cable isn't quite live yet but should be soon. Open Eir wants to publicize that they have more premises passed than they really have for ftth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭rob808


    KNN and open eir were on Ratoath to dunshaughlin road 4 vans working flat out with Fibre cables today.


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