Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

seligehgit · 27-07-2017 01:38PM

Yeah I can't imagine he's anywhere near match fit.Any word on Tom Parsons?He'd be a terrible loss for Sunday.

Oldtree · 27-07-2017 01:54PM

I posted this in the Roscomon thread yesterday as an act of kindness and it seems to have killed the thread. Was it a step too far?

Oldtree wrote: »

Usually loads of parking in clearys qpark. Short walk to croke from there. Quays have bus lanes open on a Sunday from train station. maby just 10-15 minutes to get along quays. Easy to get in to but the usual delays getting out of.

Can't cut across right from O'Connell Street any more to clearys.. Keep going along quays after O'Connell St and turn left up the R802. Then take a left to clearys on Cathal Brugha St.

€6 for day if you present match ticket. Can book online, I do jic. Axa policy holders 20% discount code AXA20.

Oldtree · 27-07-2017 01:57PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

If Mayo do get a chance to meet Kerry the best way to beat them is to run at them, down the middle, and having the likes of Doherty to win possession and start those runs is essential.

They've been practicing that one

but a Galway win would be massive along with the match that would hopefully follow that one

Shurimgreat · 27-07-2017 02:22PM

Well it doesn't have to be Barry Moran. Basically any half competent midfielder/good player under the high ball. I think if we get past Roscommon and thats by no means a given, we are facing Kerry down the tracks and as it stands I think their full forward line would have a field day against us. In summary, we need a big man in and around the square, a bit like David Brady in 2006.

NabyLadistheman · 27-07-2017 02:38PM

Oldtree wrote: »

I posted this in the Roscomon thread yesterday as an act of kindness and it seems to have killed the thread. Was it a step too far?

I wonder does that take tractor's though?

statto25 · 27-07-2017 03:34PM

Oldtree wrote: »

I posted this in the Roscomon thread yesterday as an act of kindness and it seems to have killed the thread. Was it a step too far?

If you pre-book does showing your ticket still get you a discount?

Oldtree · 27-07-2017 03:43PM

statto25 wrote: »

If you pre-book does showing your ticket still get you a discount?

no, just the AXA discount

But I've never know it to be full other than AI days, but that said there's the 3 westy counties going up in one go this time, so i'm not taking any chances.

Oldtree · 27-07-2017 03:44PM

Suarezistheman wrote: »

I wonder does that take tractor's though?

don't think theres clearance unless the roof is off

so maby a john brown

statto25 · 27-07-2017 03:53PM

Oldtree wrote: »

no, just the AXA discount

But I've never know it to be full other than AI days, but that said there's the 3 westy counties going up in one go this time, so i'm not taking any chances.

Spot on. Do you book for the whole day or just a time period?

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-07-2017 03:54PM

Oldtree wrote: »

They've been practicing that one but a Galway win would be massive along with the match that would hopefully follow that one

Galway beating Kerry would send shock waves through the country.

The national media would be scurrying to rewrite Dublin v Kerry All Ireland final columns that have been is storage for months.
And it would make the second game take on a whole new significance

I've no idea if Galway could beat Kerry, I have been saying for months that Kerry are overrated, but Galway, and Mayo to a lesser extent, have yet to give a proper indication of their value

yop · 27-07-2017 04:10PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Galway beating Kerry would send shock waves through the country.

The national media would be scurrying to rewrite Dublin v Kerry All Ireland final columns that have been is storage for months.
And it would make the second game take on a whole new significance

I've no idea if Galway could beat Kerry, I have been saying for months that Kerry are overrated, but Galway, and Mayo to a lesser extent, have yet to give a proper indication of their value

I wasn't impressed by Kerry in any of the league games this year, aside from the league final, even against Cork they were't outstanding. But what they have is a solid midfield and a top notch forward line.
If Galway run at them and Comer can get room inside then they will score and hurt them.
That said Galway full back line is leaky and could be at Roscommon level of beatings or worse. Rossies should have scored 3 goals in the first half of that final. Kerry wouldn't be a nice.

As for us, well so far this year I've called out that Derry, Clare and Cork would cause us issues, all down the middle, all lacking pace. So I hope my predictive luck is running out. I backed Roscommon to beat Galway as I considered the young Rossie team would tear into Galway and get at the FB line.

I expect a repeat in that they will target us down the middle and diagnoly. They will target AOS and COC to get at our star performers. The later could eventually react and get caught.
We should win midfield as we have the height and power and guile.
If their forwards hit top performance they will hurt us badly.

What could get them is experience and big crowd/day nerves. A lot of youth and a lot of fitness and speed.

I'm not going to call it as I don't know. ET or a replay could be in the offing. We need 1-2 goals to win this.

Its going to be hell for leather on and off the pitch.

Oldtree · 27-07-2017 05:20PM

statto25 wrote: »

Spot on. Do you book for the whole day or just a time period?

The online tickets dont do after 6 and possible extra time etc... so have to book a whole day but its so convenient that I dont care, AXA discount AXA20

Would usually have sandwiches in the car afterwards as there's no point moving for a good half hour after getting back to car park.

Oldtree · 27-07-2017 05:23PM

yop wrote: »

I wasn't impressed by Kerry in any of the league games this year, aside from the league final, even against Cork they were't outstanding. But what they have is a solid midfield and a top notch forward line.
If Galway run at them and Comer can get room inside then they will score and hurt them.
That said Galway full back line is leaky and could be at Roscommon level of beatings or worse. Rossies should have scored 3 goals in the first half of that final. Kerry wouldn't be a nice.

As for us, well so far this year I've called out that Derry, Clare and Cork would cause us issues, all down the middle, all lacking pace. So I hope my predictive luck is running out. I backed Roscommon to beat Galway as I considered the young Rossie team would tear into Galway and get at the FB line.

I expect a repeat in that they will target us down the middle and diagnoly. They will target AOS and COC to get at our star performers. The later could eventually react and get caught.
We should win midfield as we have the height and power and guile.
If their forwards hit top performance they will hurt us badly.

What could get them is experience and big crowd/day nerves. A lot of youth and a lot of fitness and speed.

I'm not going to call it as I don't know. ET or a replay could be in the offing. We need 1-2 goals to win this.

Its going to be hell for leather on and off the pitch.

I need a sit down I'm getting palpatations :P

Oldtree · 27-07-2017 05:25PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Galway beating Kerry would send shock waves through the country.

The national media would be scurrying to rewrite Dublin v Kerry All Ireland final columns that have been is storage for months.
And it would make the second game take on a whole new significance

I've no idea if Galway could beat Kerry, I have been saying for months that Kerry are overrated, but Galway, and Mayo to a lesser extent, have yet to give a proper indication of their value

I called Roscommon for the Connaught final so I'm calling Galway for the 1/4 :eek: go Galway

statto25 · 27-07-2017 05:28PM

Oldtree wrote: »

The online tickets dont do after 6 and possible extra time etc... so have to book a whole day but its so convenient that I dont care, AXA discount AXA20

Would usually have sandwiches in the car afterwards as there's no point moving for a good half hour after getting back to car park.

I only ask as there is an option to book for a time period, say 12 to 7 for 14.40 using the discount code. I'll have a gander at the site again later on.

Looking again its the same price for 24hrs. Thanks again Oldtree

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-07-2017 05:53PM

Oldtree wrote: »

I called Roscommon for the Connaught final so I'm calling Galway for the 1/4 :eek: go Galway

I've mentioned many times here that I'd like to see what happened to Cork in 2010 happen to Mayo some year.

Cork got knocked out five years in a row at either the SF or final stage by Kerry.

But in 2010 Kerry, as Munster champs, were unexpectedly beaten by Down in the QF.

Cork as qualifiers beat Roscommon, Connacht champs, and went on to win the All Ireland.

And have done nothing since.

I'd like to see Mayo having the same good fortune, instead of every year having to get past the best teams in a generation.

That all starts with Kerry, as Munster champs, being unexpectedly beaten by Galway.

blowitupref · 27-07-2017 06:35PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I've mentioned many times here that I'd like to see what happened to Cork in 2010 happen to Mayo some year.

Cork got knocked out five years in a row at either the SF or final stage by Kerry.

But in 2010 Kerry, as Munster champs, were unexpectedly beaten by Down in the QF.

Cork as qualifiers beat Roscommon, Connacht champs, and went on to win the All Ireland.

And have done nothing since.

I'd like to see Mayo having the same good fortune, instead of every year having to get past the best teams in a generation.

That all starts with Kerry, as Munster champs, being unexpectedly beaten by Galway.

Galway beating Kerry would be less of shock than Down beating Kerry 2010. Kerry were the defending AI champs and Down came from no where but they have a history for doing that.

2012 Mayo got to take on a Donegal side that were playing in their first All Ireland final for 20 years. In 2013 Mayo at arguably the peak of their powers were paired up against Dublin whom they beat in the 2012 semi final and Dublin finished that AI final with 13 men also as two players were hobbling around, that was the type of fortune that Mayo didn't make the best of.

irishgeo · 27-07-2017 06:38PM

blowitupref wrote: »

Galway beating Kerry would be less of shock than Down beating Kerry 2010. Kerry were the defending AI champs and Down came from no where but they have a history for doing that.

2012 Mayo got to take on a Donegal side that were playing in their first All Ireland final for 20 years. In 2013 Mayo at arguably the peak of their powers were paired up against Dublin whom they beat in the 2012 semi final and Dublin finished that AI final with 13 men also as two players were hobbling around, that was the type of fortune that Mayo didn't make the best of.

the last seconds when a free kick was kicked for a point instead of trying for a goal was a huge error too.

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-07-2017 08:13PM

blowitupref wrote: »

Galway beating Kerry would be less of shock than Down beating Kerry 2010. Kerry were the defending AI champs and Down came from no where but they have a history for doing that.

2012 Mayo got to take on a Donegal side that were playing in their first All Ireland final for 20 years. In 2013 Mayo at arguably the peak of their powers were paired up against Dublin whom they beat in the 2012 semi final and Dublin finished that AI final with 13 men also as two players were hobbling around, that was the type of fortune that Mayo didn't make the best of.

Go easy on the revisionist history there.

Donegal 2012 were the most well tuned, focused, fit, physical team of all time.

Dublin in 2013 were a top 3 team if not the top team.

What I'm talking about is meeting the likes of Kildare 1998, Mayo 2004, 2006 Down 2010.
Teams that were total outsiders at the start of the year to be in AI finals.

Even in 2014 Kerry caught a break by meeting a Donegal team that were no way as good as 2012, not alone not having to face Dublin.

blowitupref · 27-07-2017 09:25PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Go easy on the revisionist history there.

Donegal 2012 were the most well tuned, focused, fit, physical team of all time.

Dublin in 2013 were a top 3 team if not the top team.

What I'm talking about is meeting the likes of Kildare 1998, Mayo 2004, 2006 Down 2010.
Teams that were total outsiders at the start of the year to be in AI finals.

Even in 2014 Kerry caught a break by meeting a Donegal team that were no way as good as 2012, not alone not having to face Dublin.

Before the championship in 2012 Donegal were 20/1 to win the senior All Ireland probably the longest odds of a winner over the last number of years. https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/2012-all-ireland-sfc-1.519739 The rest on Donegal is all hindsight now.

Mayos form in 2013 was as good if not better than Dublins but the Dubs grounded out the win in the final but then again Dublin haven't won AI senior final by a bit to spare for 40 years.

What a lot forget about Kildare in 1998 is they beat the 1995,1996 and 1997 All Ireland champions on route to that All Ireland final, they had a cute Kerry manager over them and if they had won that final they would have been seen in a similar light today as that Donegal team of 2012.

Should be noted Cork had to beat Dublin in the AI semi final in 2010 more or less the same Dublin side that would go on to win the AI the following year. Downs record in AI finals before 2010 was 5 finals and 5 wins.

rgace · 27-07-2017 09:37PM

The Kerry 2014 win was a bit of a freak one alright. However Mayo have had a decent amount of fortuante draws themselves, the qualifiers both this year and last year were kind. Last year Mayo didn't have to start playing until the quarter final, had a nice semi final and may have a handy run to the final this year again.

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-07-2017 09:45PM

rgace wrote: »

The Kerry 2014 win was a bit of a freak one alright. However Mayo have had a decent amount of fortuante draws themselves, the qualifiers both this year and last year were kind. Last year Mayo didn't have to start playing until the quarter final, had a nice semi final and may have a handy run to the final this year again.

Yea, avoiding Dublin until the final was helpful.

franklyon · 27-07-2017 09:48PM

Finally managed to get a decent ticket tonight after the website trying to put me in the corner at each turn for the last day or two, 706 here I come

seligehgit · 27-07-2017 09:58PM

rgace wrote: »

The Kerry 2014 win was a bit of a freak one alright. However Mayo have had a decent amount of fortuante draws themselves, the qualifiers both this year and last year were kind. Last year Mayo didn't have to start playing until the quarter final, had a nice semi final and may have a handy run to the final this year again.

That's a very optimistic scenario but likely improbable.

Anyway there's a match to won on Sunday,getting more nervy re same as the week goes on.

Bunny Colvin · 27-07-2017 09:58PM

I'm confident we'll beat Roscommon. They've some quality players but you'd have to fancy us in Croke Park, we've beaten good teams there while not setting the world alight. Some of our lads seem to be hitting form now.

jasonroche123 · 27-07-2017 10:44PM

when is team named

seligehgit · 27-07-2017 10:46PM

jasonroche123 wrote: »

when is team named

The phoney team is likely to be named tomorrow night between 9 and 9.30.There may well be a number of different permutations before the night's out!

Fr Tod Umptious · 27-07-2017 11:37PM

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

I'm confident we'll beat Roscommon. They've some quality players but you'd have to fancy us in Croke Park, we've beaten good teams there while not setting the world alight. Some of our lads seem to be hitting form now.

I'd agree with this.

Roscommon have beaten a poor Leitrim and a complacent Galway.

And from headlines like "We can't cage the chaos - McStay loving glory charge" from the RTE website tonight, one gets the feeling that everything from here on in is gravy for thses lads.

That's where Mayo have the advantage, they have won this game 6 years in a row, unless Roscommon tare into them and open a substantial lead then I cannot see it being anything else other than a Mayo win.

TCDStudent1 · 28-07-2017 07:22AM

franklyon wrote: »

Finally managed to get a decent ticket tonight after the website trying to put me in the corner at each turn for the last day or two, 706 here I come

In my experience, it's always better to wait towards end of week before buying tickets online. I'm not sure if it's clubs returning unused tickets but better ones always seem to come online on the Friday or Saturday.

Comic Book Guy · 28-07-2017 09:28AM

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

In my experience, it's always better to wait towards end of week before buying tickets online. I'm not sure if it's clubs returning unused tickets but better ones always seem to come online on the Friday or Saturday.

I hope you're right! The website is still pushing me into upper tiers of either the Hogan or Cusack right into the corners with the Davin!

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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