FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS

Its funny how The_Dump will call everything he doesnt like "Fake News" but yet has a tendancy to believe everything off "Fox News" the home of american BULLSHYTE News. C_C

Ann_Landers wrote: »

I'm very sick of the term 'fake news'. Like excrement to a blanket is how people have assimilated the term into their lexicon.

Just like the Russia narrative, it was Clinton, Podesta and the Democratic establishment who came up with it in order to discredit Bernie Sanders supporters. They opened Pandora's Box and can hardly take the moral high ground now that their opponents are co-opting the same appalling tactics.

The media is also doing itself no favours by having been so blatantly and openly partisan since late 2015.

RTE dedicate a US news story to the Six One news every single day in the first 10-15 minutes of the show since Trump took over, wtf difference does it make to us what happens with jaysus Obamacare, jaysus Russian, jaysus Trump Resorts, jaysus Trumps Twitter account etc etc etc etc. It has to be costing RTE about 20% plus of the news budget.

A lot of the issue with "the media" is that news has become "media" to be consumed. With the internet, media has to be 24/7 and be able to attract readers from around the world, not just local interest. With the push for constantly filling up the airwaves (so to speak) as well as the push for journalists to be "media personalities", it is absolutely unsurprising that what suffered was quality of reporting. Journalists just don't get nearly so much opportunity to go and dig at a story until it's uncovered (although a thought for those poor guys that were steadily digging away at Trump Jnr's lies and then he just comes out and says it on twitter!).

Overall, some organisations have risen to the challenge as the role of journalism suddenly became important again. The Atlantic, WaPo and NYP* have all been doing good work under difficult circumstances. It is difficult to keep peoples attention on one story when the idiot-in-chief creates more scandals just by getting up in the morning (or more accurately, getting up and then tweeting absolute nonsense). Everything moves very fast. There is little transparancy from the White House (and when they are transparant, it's a bit "good gods, are you actually just admitting that straight out?" - Trump calmly saying that he fired Comey because of the Russia thing was a doozy. As was the Trumpling's email exchange. It is alarming that none of them seem to get why it's a bad thing) and a culture of complete contempt towards the media - not because of their actual faults, but rather because Trump sees their reporting on what he's up to as "disloyalty" to be punished.

And all three do tend to print retractions or updates correcting earlier information if details are proven incorrect.

There is still plenty of "fake news" out there - and also plenty of fools who will use "fake news" to mean "any news I don't like the sound of", but yes, a bit of analysis and fact-checking will throw up some decent news outlets.


*Yes, they all have a left-wing bias, which should be born in mind, but they do tend to be factual in reporting. Also, note where something is an opinion piece rather than a straight report.

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

RTE dedicate a US news story to the Six One news every single day in the first 10-15 minutes of the show since Trump took over, wtf difference does it make to us what happens with jaysus Obamacare, jaysus Russian, jaysus Trump Resorts, jaysus Trumps Twitter account etc etc etc etc. It has to be costing RTE about 20% plus of the news budget.

It has a very significant impact on the rest of the world, including Ireland.

Aside from the fact that most of us would have some family living in the U.S., if something like the health repeal is rejected it has a knock on effect. When the proposed healthcare act was rejected recently, the markets reacted to it. The interpretation is that the administration is unable to push through their reforms which includes their financial proposals. Within a day or two, the dollar hit a two year low against the Euro which potentially has economic ramifications for Ireland (assisted by Mario Draghi's comments on bonds).

So, whilst it is also about the entertainment factor regarding the soap opera that is the current American politics, it does go beyond that and is worth covering (perhaps not to the extend that it is, though).

The great Castleconnell soccer club conspiracy? Including opposition players?

Bolsheviks, jews, and freemasons combined wouldn't have pulled that off.

Not so fake I would say.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The mainstream media in the United States - the big TV coprorations (CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc) as well as the big newspapers (NY Times, Washington Post, etc) were all very clearly biased in their election coverage

They seem biased against Kim Jong Un also

Why is that? it's almost as if he generates a lot of negative news and views

If one candidate is bigoted, sexist, racist and makes constant inflammatory comments - this will be reported in the news

There will be those that interpret this as being biased

Oh I have no illusions about bias in the US media, but let's cut the bull**** here - one candidate was far more extreme and controversial than the other - by a magnitude I haven't seen matched in my lifetime.

Dohnjoe wrote: »

They seem biased against Kim Jong Un also

Why is that? it's almost as if he generates a lot of negative news and views

If one candidate is bigoted, sexist, racist and makes constant inflammatory comments - this will be reported in the news

There will be those that interpret this as being biased

Oh I have no illusions about bias in the US media, but let's cut the bull**** here - one candidate was far more extreme and controversial than the other - by a magnitude I haven't seen matched in my lifetime.

You do realise that it is possible to report on such incidents while remaining entirely neutral in your own tone, language, and commentary on it?

I don't believe that the BAI would have allowed Brian Dobson or Sharon Ni Bheolain to behave in the manner that CNN anchors behaved on election night or throughout the primary season.

The football transfer window is full of fake news. In fact most football news is fake news.

Cnn/fox/msnbc were biased against one candidate all right but it wasn't trump http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/26/msnbc-cnn-fox-news-ignore-hillary-clinton-speech-show-trumps-empty-podium.html

A Battered Mars Bar wrote: »

Dolores McNamara, was a euro millions winner of 115 million. The media were quick to paint her in a bad light because she was from Limerick. Shortly after winning a news story ran telling how her son drove his brand new pickup truck onto a kids playing field ruining it after being angry about something.

What probably happened..... Euro millions winner Dolores McNamara's son buys set of goal posts for local playing field. Parks brand new pickup truck on field for 10 minutes to unload and install brand new goal post's. Kids are delighted. Tyres probably compressed he grass leaving a print for 20 mins to which some gormless journo thought they had the scoop of the decade.

There were kids playing football on it at the time apparently. Maybe they made up the story about him beating up a 70 year old who died from his injuries too?