Where are our kids going to live in the future???

Archeron · 23-07-2017 06:09PM

Under the sea. There'll be no accusations, just friendly crustations, under the sea.

Del2005 · 23-07-2017 06:10PM

pone2012 wrote: »

how about instilling into this generation that owning a home isnt the be all and end all....and that the Irish peoples obsession with getting on the 'property ladder" is a cultural phenomenon that needs to be questioned

People own their own home in most countries, just in the large cities renting is more common because very few can afford to buy.

With the way pensions are going not owning a home means that you can never retire.

buyer2017 · 23-07-2017 06:13PM

The only way is to increase height restrictions

Del2005 · 23-07-2017 06:17PM

Ariyah Great Fumble wrote: »

4. With the rise of Virtualisation, ai-robotics and hyperloop/xl-drone type travel concepts, remote working will become more attractive.

And also remove most current jobs.

Are Am Eye · 23-07-2017 06:19PM

Archeron wrote: »

Under the sea..

That's your answer to everything.

hatrickpatrick · 23-07-2017 06:24PM

I can easily see something like the Guinness/Iveagh situation coming about in the future, in which well-off companies like Google buy / build housing, and provide it free of charge to their employees as part of the job. I think if the housing crisis gets much worse they could easily avoid getting stung with benefit-in-kind taxation on the grounds that if they don't provide it, their employees will simply be living too far away from the company to be effective employees.

Harry Palmr · 23-07-2017 06:25PM

Communal living - not an obviously attractive idea for many as it evokes hippies and/or the third world but it must be said that a home for two/three people in suburbia is just about the least efficient/most expensive way to house people. Design accommodation which shares most facilities and costs.

23-07-2017 06:36PM

pone2012 wrote: »

Heres something that would be a better one to think about

how about instilling into this generation that owning a home isnt the be all and end all....and that the Irish peoples obsession with getting on the 'property ladder" is a cultural phenomenon that needs to be questioned

Why does the desire to own your own home need to be questioned?
It's not immoral. In fact, it's a perfectly natural desire.

On the other hand, there are lots of questions to be asked about the rental market - or, in many cases, the lack of a rental market - never mind one that is affordable...

defrule · 23-07-2017 07:31PM

I think people need to abandon the idea of living in houses and embrace apartment life.

LadyMacBeth_ · 23-07-2017 07:32PM

The rental market here needs to be properly regulated like it is on the Continent. Then renting long term will be a viable option.

Fathom · 23-07-2017 07:35PM

Masala wrote: »

Where are our kids going to live in the future???

For Boomerang Generation? Return to parents after graduation.

LordSutch · 24-07-2017 08:37AM

Australia, New Zealand, the US? I hope not.

Hopefully they'll settle in Ireland, Britain, or Europe.
As long as its not too far away.

PS my brother settled in OZ which has been great for him, but its a real pain for reunions here in Ireland + lots of heartache & pining for all, specially in the early years.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k · 24-07-2017 08:53AM

Your kids in the future isn't the problem. Presumably your kids have a roof over their heads now and that's more than can be said for a lot of people in the here and now

conorhal · 24-07-2017 09:04AM

eeguy wrote: »

To be honest I see the role of governments in providing housing and infrastructure diminishing over the next few decades.

Some company will come along with an affordable flat pack skyscraper (like the one that went up in China last year) and we'll just see these popping up all over the place. Its crazy that houses are still designed and built on the same principles used 200 years ago.

There's nothing to stop houses getting 3d printed or built off site and assembled onsite.

I feel like the inevitable and depressing consequence of this will be our enslavement as you become a tithed serf of some corporate entity who will become our new medieval lords, you'll get to live at their sufferance in a 3D printed box and spend your 'wages' in the company concessions.

We need to become a nation again and our governments accountable to people rather than quangos, quasi national organizations and corporations otherwise our future will be bleak.

Del2005 · 24-07-2017 09:10AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I can easily see something like the Guinness/Iveagh situation coming about in the future, in which well-off companies like Google buy / build housing, and provide it free of charge to their employees as part of the job. I think if the housing crisis gets much worse they could easily avoid getting stung with benefit-in-kind taxation on the grounds that if they don't provide it, their employees will simply be living too far away from the company to be effective employees.

If they aren't looking after their well paid employees in Silicon Valley and San Fran not being able to afford to live in the area they aren't going to look after the plebs in order countries. Or do you want a Foxconn where they have netting around the higher floors?

seamus · 24-07-2017 09:17AM

In five years time we'll be remarking about all the crazy places that they're building houses and wondering where they're going to find anyone to live in them.

The market runs in cycles.

Atoms for Peace · 24-07-2017 09:20AM

The future generations will live in VR pods in Roscommon and commute to the big smoke by tube technology.

Biscuitus · 24-07-2017 09:35AM

Everyone will have to rent in the future like in other European countries. Buying a house with a mortgage will become very uncommon.

I love Sean nos · 24-07-2017 09:47AM

A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »

The Midlands, there are house going in athlone and Longford at very reasonable prices. But they might not have jobs in many fields.

Don't worry, there are lots more fields around Athlone and Longford that they could work in.

donegaLroad · 24-07-2017 10:28AM

young people in the near future, will be building their own self sustainable housing from recyclable materials, such as tyres in the clip here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LraJwVRH5Pw

_Brian · 24-07-2017 10:35AM

Wesser wrote: »

The solution is they don't buy when they're 25. They will be off travelling the world at this stage!!! They will buy when they are much older, their salary higher, plus a partner, add together, times 3 .5 , plus deposit. A house that is not perfect but that is acceptable!!! They will be Ok!!! But you must tell them to start saving from the first paycheck!! Save every month even if it is a small amount.!!

This is a good point.
They on average will have much longer life expectancy so no rush at all. Couple that with later retirement ages why would they rush into the workplace.

I think like it or not high rise has to happen in major urban areas.

Maybe it's worth them thinking of qualifications that allow them work in multiple locations throughout the country so they aren't being restricted to working only in the type of business that exists within the major urban areas.

eeguy · 24-07-2017 01:03PM

conorhal wrote: »

I feel like the inevitable and depressing consequence of this will be our enslavement as you become a tithed serf of some corporate entity who will become our new medieval lords, you'll get to live at their sufferance in a 3D printed box and spend your 'wages' in the company concessions.

We need to become a nation again and our governments accountable to people rather than quangos, quasi national organizations and corporations otherwise our future will be bleak.

Deckard? Is that you?

meeeeh · 24-07-2017 01:20PM

Biscuitus wrote: »

Everyone will have to rent in the future like in other European countries. Buying a house with a mortgage will become very uncommon.

Everyone in other European countries?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_home_ownership_rate

Just because rental market is less disfunctional in some other European countries it doesn't mean everyone is renting. In majority of European countries home ownership is above 50%.

Anyway there is no reason to believe the situation will be worse or better for our kids. There are always challenges but at the moment Ireland is fairly prosperous country with low population density. It could be worse

conorhal · 24-07-2017 01:34PM

eeguy wrote: »

Deckard? Is that you?

You'll shut your mouth unless you want your expiration date to get a whole lot closer!....

Seriously though, Star Trek is utopian thinking, looking at the way things are going, we're far more likely to end up living in a dystopian corporatocracy in the near future.
I read Neal Stephenson's 'Snow Crash' as while back (what hasn't that guy accurately predicted) and thinking to myself, yeah, that's where we're headed all right. It's a good read set in a post nation state world with a largely corportate clan structure and it quite an entertaining satirical take on what a hellish place a 'libertarian utopia' would be to live in.

blinding · 24-07-2017 01:43PM

Would some sort of licensing system for killing older wealthy relatives go far enough.........

oppenheimer1 · 24-07-2017 01:48PM

pone2012 wrote: »

Heres something that would be a better one to think about

how about instilling into this generation that owning a home isnt the be all and end all....and that the Irish peoples obsession with getting on the 'property ladder" is a cultural phenomenon that needs to be questioned

Actually owning a home is likely to become even more vital than it is today. Owning your own home will effectively be the only way to finance care in retirement for many.

red ears · 24-07-2017 02:13PM

defrule wrote: »

I think people need to abandon the idea of living in houses and embrace apartment life.

With decent soundproofing that would be a good idea. However we don't seem to care about things like that here.

Masala · 24-07-2017 02:21PM

I think Planning Laws will have to relaxed

1. and people allowed build in back gardens
2. Current houses allied to make upward and sideway extensions... so in effect allow a house become 2 houses. It might also mean extending upwards despite the objections of neighbours/ town planners
3. Introduce Sky Scraper apparttment living ... in effect GoUp!!!

meeeeh · 24-07-2017 02:33PM

Some planning might need to be changed and allow for more apartment living but Ireland has oodles of space in comparison to most continental Europe. How to plan for that space is another issue and proper planning is needed so servicing the community isn't too expensive but I don't think there will be building on massive scale in parent's back garden just yet.

blinding · 24-07-2017 02:35PM

Single people could just have a sleep pod . A driverless sleep pod .

Where are our kids going to live in the future???

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