woman detained at Dublin airport

Grayson · 20-07-2017 11:30PM #1

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/i-had-to-take-off-my-clothes-i-got-very-upset-i-felt-i-had-committed-some-crime-1.3161927

She was detained because they suspected she was here to work. She was then led to a prison. She was never told about legal representation.She was stripped and had to spend the night with a woman who was an alcoholic going through detox.

Legally she's allowed here for 90 days. She also had a return flight booked.

Personally I hope she sues the state. What happened to her was horrible. She was just a tourist and was locked up for nothing.

(btw, I searched and couldn't find anything. Apologies if there's already a thread).

McMurphy · 20-07-2017 11:34PM

Heard of a calf being dehorned.

A woman being detailed sounds pretty painful though.

Birneybau · 20-07-2017 11:36PM

She get some cool flames up the side?

vicwatson · 20-07-2017 11:37PM

Immigration pimped her ride

Grayson · 20-07-2017 11:37PM

Rick Shaw wrote: »

Heard of a calf being dehorned.

A woman being detailed sounds pretty painful though.

In my defense.... ok, I have nothing.

Wibbs · 20-07-2017 11:38PM

I could cornuba wax a lady. If she was agreeable.

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup · 20-07-2017 11:38PM

we need to get rid of visa-waiver for Brazilians, it's being abused. this poor girl was obviously just a tourist and unlucky to be caught in the middle.

Atlantic Dawn · 20-07-2017 11:38PM

Grayson wrote: »

Legally she's allowed here for 90 days. She also had a return flight booked.

Personally I hope she sues the state. What happened to her was horrible. She was just a tourist and was locked up for nothing.

I think the initial issue was she had €1000 for a 2 month stay and was suspected of going to be seeking work seeing as €16 a day wouldn't sustain you. Being non EU she can't work here if she arrives as a tourist.

bear1 · 20-07-2017 11:39PM

Something doesn't seem right at all with that story.

brevity · 20-07-2017 11:40PM

Poor girl. Very scary situation to be in, especially in a foreign country.

Strazdas · 20-07-2017 11:46PM

bear1 wrote: »

Something doesn't seem right at all with that story.

No, it all happened as described. Apparently immigration authorities detain around 400 people a year in a similar fashion....often in a completely random fashion rather than systematically.

bear1 · 20-07-2017 11:48PM

Strazdas wrote: »

No, it all happened as described. Apparently immigration authorities detain around 400 people a year in a similar fashion....often in a completely random fashion rather than systematically.

Hold my hands up (no pun). Just seemed too odd.
Surely there must be a basis to stop someone and then to actually advise what is happening?
If she arrived on a 1 way ticket then ok but with a return?
Maybe when she said she is visiting a family she used to work for plus having 1k made them suspicious.

Spanish Eyes · 20-07-2017 11:50PM

Should have claimed asylum. No worries.

Anyway, the immigration officers would not have done this to her without cause.

I am glad they are on the ball TBH.

There is more to this, I am thinking publicity here.

Strazdas · 20-07-2017 11:52PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I think the initial issue was she had €1000 for a 2 month stay and was suspected of going to be seeking work seeing as €16 a day wouldn't sustain you. Being non EU she can't work here if she arrives as a tourist.

It seems a pretty ruthless system that packs someone off to prison, a person who has not committed any criminal offence or done anything illegal (they can't have done as they have only just arrived in the country and stepped off a plane a few moments earlier).

Grayson · 21-07-2017 12:03AM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Should have claimed asylum. No worries.

Anyway, the immigration officers would not have done this to her without cause.

I am glad they are on the ball TBH.

There is more to this, I am thinking publicity here.

If the gardai were able to find something incriminating in the time it took to detain her than they are amazing.

Atlantic Dawn · 21-07-2017 12:05AM

Strazdas wrote: »

It seems a pretty ruthless system that packs someone off to prison, a person who has not committed any criminal offence or done anything illegal (they can't have done as they have only just arrived in the country and stepped off a plane a few moments earlier).

Same happens in US, Australia and lots of other countries around the world.

hatrickpatrick · 21-07-2017 12:50AM

F*cking outrageous, and I seriously hope that heads roll over this. The return flight being booked within the allowed time limit should be more than enough for somebody not to get hassled.

Strazdas · 21-07-2017 12:51AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Same happens in US, Australia and lots of other countries around the world.

Well in the case of this woman, she wasn't even trying to enter the country illegally. She was a bona fide tourist looking to spend a few weeks here.

Mrs OBumble · 21-07-2017 01:07AM

Strazdas wrote: »

She was a bona fide tourist looking to spend a few weeks here.

And she had E16 per day to spend doing so for two months? If you believe that, I've got a bridge for sale, going real cheap.

Patently obvious that she was going to work for the family (at very least in exchange for bed and board) for the summer.

What immigration did is exactly what they do to people all over the world who arrive and have dodgy stories. Usually such people don't even leave the airport, they are turned around and put on the next flight home.

evolving_doors · 21-07-2017 01:08AM

bear1 wrote: »

Something doesn't seem right at all with that story.

I haven't read the whole thread but in case it hasn't been mentioned... the family she was going to see on her holiday used to employ her as an au pair..
Immigration asked her was she going to work here..
She said no...
They rang the family and asked the Irish family dad (who's native language isn't English)... " are you expecting the au pair girl?" or words to that effect.
He and his family have always thought of her as the au pair girl so he says 'we are ya' or words to that effect.
Ergo she's going to be working as an au pair... gets thrown in the slammer.

So she's just here for a 2 month holiday... staying with the family she used to au pair for.
And seeing friends.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 21-07-2017 01:08AM

She came her to work as an Au Pair from what I can see in the article. As she probably doesn't have a working visa, she is being deported.

Can somebody please tell me what I am supposed to be outraged at?

evolving_doors · 21-07-2017 01:15AM

Josephine Full Metro wrote: »

She came her to work as an Au Pair from what I can see in the article. As she probably doesn't have a working visa, she is being deported.

Can somebody please tell me what I am supposed to be outraged at?

Naw the claim is that she's just a tourist.... with 1k for 2 months and staying with a family she used to au pair for.

evolving_doors · 21-07-2017 01:20AM

'However, Paloma was then suddenly released at around 10pm at Dublin Airport and given permission to stay in the country for two weeks.

"I am deeply grateful to community and politicians who ultimately affected this release," said Karin..'

how would politicians have 'affected' a release?

thelad95 · 21-07-2017 01:23AM

The minute I read the article, I suspected there was a probable cash in hand agreement for her to au pair again.

I mean why fly all the way to Ireland with only a tiny bit of spending money and no travel itinerary, just to 'stay with' a family she formerly au paired for????

Her story has more holes in it than a sieve.

Permabear · 21-07-2017 01:38AM

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Pelvis · 21-07-2017 07:58AM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

And she had E16 per day to spend doing so for two months? If you believe that, I've got a bridge for sale, going real cheap.

Patently obvious that she was going to work for the family (at very least in exchange for bed and board) for the summer.

What immigration did is exactly what they do to people all over the world who arrive and have dodgy stories. Usually such people don't even leave the airport, they are turned around and put on the next flight home.

Being detained in the airport and sent home immediately is perfectly fine.

Being sent to prison is not.

Erik Shin · 21-07-2017 08:06AM

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

And she had E16 per day to spend doing so for two months? If you believe that, I've got a bridge for sale, going real cheap.

Patently obvious that she was going to work for the family (at very least in exchange for bed and board) for the summer.

What immigration did is exactly what they do to people all over the world who arrive and have dodgy stories. Usually such people don't even leave the airport, they are turned around and put on the next flight home.

Then why jail her and search her? ... there's something patently obvious here alright ...

pickarooney · 21-07-2017 08:43AM

Isn't the world a fierce strange place where you can get thrown in jail on suspicion of wanting to work while those who don't look like they'd manage a day's graft in their lives are subsidised to get hammered all day and beat people up with impunity?

thelad95 · 21-07-2017 09:05AM

It does have to be said that on the face of it, sending the women to jail just because of a suspected (not proven) illegal working arrangement does seem outrageously superfluous. The rational part of my brain suggests there may be more too this story that the click bait times conveniently left out.

razorblunt · 21-07-2017 09:47AM

I've not clicked on the link but is this the story doing the rounds on FB of the Brazilian girl and the family in Galway?
She happens to rock up on a 2month "holiday" coinciding with school holidays?

Dravokivich · 21-07-2017 11:42AM

Pelvis wrote: »

Being detained in the airport and sent home immediately is perfectly fine.

Being sent to prison is not.

Prison? Dochas? I thought we were meant to be outraged that it's a holiday home?

But to be more serious. It sounds likely the airport doesn't have the facilities to hold someone for a period of time, where else are they meant to be held on remand? Wheatfield?

woman detained at Dublin airport

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