Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

Johnmb · 20-07-2017 03:35PM

inforfun wrote: »

Barkley is injured so will not go anywhere any time soon i reckon.

Not only that, but the seemingly complete and utter lack of interest in him from any other clubs might make him reconsider and sign the new contract with Everton (assuming it is still on the table).

Iused2likebusts · 20-07-2017 03:37PM

Johnmb wrote: »

Not only that, but the seemingly complete and utter lack of interest in him from any other clubs might make him reconsider and sign the new contract with Everton (assuming it is still on the table).

I don't think he would start for any of last seasons top 6. If Everton could get siggy it would be an upgrade for them.

HigginsJ · 20-07-2017 04:05PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Atletico have already signed Vitolo and loaned him out to Las Palmas.
Why can't they do the same here.

Not quite, they gave Vitolo the money to buy out his Sevilla contract, Vitolo then signed a 6 month contract with Las Palmas. Atletico cannot register players so would have no way to sign and loan them out.

Giggsy11 · 20-07-2017 04:12PM

HigginsJ wrote: »

Not quite, they gave Vitolo the money to buy out his Sevilla contract, Vitolo then signed a 6 month contract with Las Palmas. Atletico cannot register players so would have no way to sign and loan them out.

Atletico signed Vitolo and announced on their website too, that he will be on loan at Las Palmas till Jan 1st.

http://en.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/agreement-with-vitolo-until-2022

HigginsJ · 20-07-2017 04:24PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Atletico signed Vitolo and announced on their website too, that he will be on loan at Las Palmas till Jan 1st.

http://en.atleticodemadrid.com/noticias/agreement-with-vitolo-until-2022

Yea, he is not on loan to Las Palmas from Atletico, they have found a way around the system. No where does it say that he is on loan from Atletico to Las Palmas.

He is not registered as an Atletico player so he cannot be loaned out by them. It is a clever piece of business and needed Las Palmas and Vitolo to be on board. If they had bought Vitolo he would not have been able to go anywhere on loan.

Trigger · 20-07-2017 04:29PM

Monaco have report Man City and PSG to FIFA over Mbappe apparently, they released a statement today

https://twitter.com/skysports_bryan/status/888053820198191104

Giggsy11 · 20-07-2017 04:31PM

HigginsJ wrote: »

Yea, he is not on loan to Las Palmas from Atletico, they have found a way around the system. No where does it say that he is on loan from Atletico to Las Palmas.

He is not registered as an Atletico player so he cannot be loaned out by them. It is a clever piece of business and needed Las Palmas and Vitolo to be on board. If they had bought Vitolo he would not have been able to go anywhere on loan.

Not sure what's so hard to understand. Obviously Atletico are banned from registering players but Vitolo is Atletico player and signed contract till 2022. They haven't explicitly mentioned loan but it's obvious what they mean when they say player will play at Las Palmas till Jan 1st.

Atlco de Madrid has reached an agreement with Vor MachPerez, Vitolo, for the next five years after the football player rescinded his contract with Sevilla Fútbol Club. Due to FIFA’s sanction that forbids the club from registering football players during the current summer market, the player will play the first half of the season with Unieportiva Las Palmas and will join our team starting on January 1st, 2018. The Spanish international has signed with our club until the 30th of June of 2022.

He has already signed contract at Atletico, so he is Atletico player. Barca had the option to loan out Turan but they didn't. Maybe they thought training with Barca is better.

Lucas Hood · 20-07-2017 04:33PM

Load of teams loan out players right after signing them.

Nothing new here.

Subcomandante Marcos · 20-07-2017 04:37PM

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Load of teams loan out players right after signing them.

Nothing new here.

They don't tend to have transfer bans though...

Lucas Hood · 20-07-2017 04:38PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

They don't tend to have transfer bans though...

What's that got to do with anything?

They really should be called registration bans as that is what they are.

HigginsJ · 20-07-2017 04:39PM

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Not sure what's so hard to understand. Obviously Atletico are banned from registering players but Vitolo is Atletico player and signed contract till 2022.

He has already signed contract at Atletico, so he is Atletico player. Barca had the option to loan out Turan but they didn't. Maybe they thought training with Barca is better.

I don't know the in's & out's of every detail but the fact is he is not on loan from Atletico to Las Palmas. It was a complicated process they have gone through to by pass the ban to allow Vitolo play football for 6 months.

To be able to be on loan you need to be registered to a parent club, as Vitolo is not registered to Atletico they cannot loan him. Obviously his contract is signed and sealed with Atletico but probably something simple like your start date is 01/01/18 and he has signed a 6 month contract with Las Palmas in the mean time.

yabadabado · 20-07-2017 04:42PM

Johnmb wrote: »

Not only that, but the seemingly complete and utter lack of interest in him from any other clubs might make him reconsider and sign the new contract with Everton (assuming it is still on the table).

I reckon he leaves Everton either way in the next 12 months.I don't see the fuss over him either but at the right price he may move.On a free next season I'd say most clubs will be interested.

ERG89 · 20-07-2017 05:19PM

astradave wrote:

Monaco have report Man City and PSG to FIFA over Mbappe apparently, they released a statement today

Lol. Real have probably done 10 times as much unsavoury advances towards him but after yesterday there is only one place he goes next and it ain't Paris or Manchester

Trigger · 20-07-2017 06:21PM

https://twitter.com/westhamutd/status/888073828202631168

Harry Palmr · 20-07-2017 06:46PM

ERG89 wrote: »

Lol. Real have probably done 10 times as much unsavoury advances towards him but after yesterday there is only one place he goes next and it ain't Paris or Manchester

Real Madrid have been named as well, the list is PSG, City, Madrid and a mystery club. Could be Liverpool - it's the sort of underhand carry on the club is now famous for! However FIFA have not received a compliant so maybe this is just a hands off warning.

Agent Coulson · 20-07-2017 06:55PM

I'd guess the mystery club is Arsenal unless they are the only club Monaco gave permission to hold talks with him.

TitianGerm · 20-07-2017 07:00PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Real Madrid have been named as well, the list is PSG, City, Madrid and a mystery club. Could be Liverpool - it's the sort of underhand carry on the club is now famous for! However FIFA have not received a compliant so maybe this is just a hands off warning.

Harry I doubt we've even been in contact for Mbappe. He was always going to a club above us.

highbury1913 · 20-07-2017 07:58PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'd guess the mystery club is Arsenal unless they are the only club Monaco gave permission to hold talks with him.

There was a report in France Football recently about Wenger speaking to Mbappe around the time of the France v England game and tried to convince him of the merits of joining.

Unless Arsenal had permission, what Wenger did is against the rules. He also spoke to him the previous year when he was apparently at his house.

Liverpool also have history of this with Van Dijk.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-07-2017 08:06PM

highbury1913 wrote: »

There was a report in France Football recently about Wenger speaking to Mbappe around the time of the France v England game and tried to convince him of the merits of joining.

Unless Arsenal had permission, what Wenger did is against the rules. He also spoke to him the previous year when he was apparently at his house.

Liverpool also have history of this with Van Dijk.

Liverpool never ever met VvD in Wengers house, it was on a rollercoaster in Blackpool...

Skylinehead · 20-07-2017 08:57PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'd guess the mystery club is Arsenal unless they are the only club Monaco gave permission to hold talks with him.

I doubt it. Wenger was at the gaff last year to try and get Mbappe (add him to the list) and considering he won Monaco a few trophies back in the day, he probably has a decent relationship with them.

Cantona's Collars · 20-07-2017 09:42PM

French media and all the reliable Barca related media reporting that Neymar has left the training camp in the USA and is headed to Paris with his father on a private jet.

Looks like his move to PSG is on after all.

Cantona's Collars · 20-07-2017 09:54PM

https://twitter.com/parisunited6/status/888137043980767233

"Agreement between PSG and Sanchez,they will offer £45 million".

Burial. · 20-07-2017 09:56PM

Neymar to Arsenal then. Wenger you aul genius.

Jayop · 20-07-2017 10:01PM

PSG buying Neymar and Sanchez at the one time?? Unlucky Alexis lol. Guess who's not going to get too much attention if that happens.

That said, I'd almost say I'd prefer Sanchez. Great player.

Dirty Dingus McGee · 20-07-2017 10:17PM

Hopefully Neymar and Sanchez go to PSG.

A front 3 of Neymar,Sanhez and Cavani would be something else.Could get close to 150 goals in the league with that combination.

Bleating Lamb · 20-07-2017 10:19PM

The move of African Nations Cup to June and July from 2019 onwards will mean clubs will be even more encouraged to sign African talent than players from the home nations or Europe as they wont be missing out on top players been away in January.

CSF · 20-07-2017 10:32PM

Lukaku > Morata. That's a discussion I'm surprised to see taking place on here but then again I probably shouldn't be.

Jayop · 20-07-2017 10:42PM

CSF wrote: »

Lukaku > Morata. That's a discussion I'm surprised to see taking place on here but then again I probably shouldn't be.

How do you figure that out? I see it is impossible to call at this stage with very little comparable play time. Lukaku has way more goals scored but Morata played less time. Lukaku played for a much weaker team, Morata is playing with a monster team who score mental amounts of goals with him or without him.

I wouldn't say it was a delusion to claim one was better than the other either way until we see them both starting for big club in the same league.

Rayne Wooney · 20-07-2017 10:49PM

I'd imagine if you asked either set of fans a few weeks ago who they prefer it would be a toss up to be honest.

ERG89 · 20-07-2017 10:50PM

Maybe wait until the end of the season or a few games at least to state proclamations otherwise it just looks childish

Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

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