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Journalism and cycling

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Letter in the times.
    Sir, – As a pedestrian, I am interested in the debate concerning cyclists who do not feel safe while cycling on the road. Following a few recent near-misses with cyclists and skateboarders on local footpaths, I now feel anything but safe while out walking. Maybe a solution would be “pedestrian only ” lanes on footpaths? Or should pedestrians consider wearing crash helmets? – Yours, etc,

    Cyclists are not legally allowed on footpaths. One big problem is that what many call "cycle lanes" are not exclusive to cyclists. This came up in some recent thread about wheelchair users. They spoke as though pedestrians were not allowed in "cycle lanes" and someone asked if there was a law preventing them.

    So while they are joking about calling them "pedestrian only" it could be good if we did have actual cycling lanes called "cyclists only lanes" which pedestrians were legally not allowed on -and was enforced. I suggested that rather than having images of bikes painted it should be images of people with a line or X through them. I use cycle lanes as much as I can but often end up on the road as they are really jogging, pedestrian, dog on illegally long leash, wandering goon looking at his phone -lanes.

    And yes, pedestrians should certainly consider wearing helmets, they would be mad not too, especially while drinking, maybe these reckless daredevils are too concerned about not looking cool. And carry torches at night as per rules of the road advice which many think others should read but are ignorant about themselves. Also wear high viz clothing during the daytime, and reflective clothing at night (as per ROTR)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Path on my commute is offset from the road while the cycle track is directly onside. Most peds use the latter. Goes both ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭mcgratheoin


    rubadub wrote: »
    I suggested that rather than having images of bikes painted it should be images of people with a line or X through them.

    They have those on the cycle paths in the Phoenix Park for all the good it does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,161 ✭✭✭buffalo


    Took me a moment to work out who was the victim in this headline:
    Mother-of-six jailed for trying to rob cyclist’s handbag

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/mother-of-six-jailed-for-trying-to-rob-cyclist-s-handbag-1.3149549


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭I love Sean nos


    buffalo wrote: »
    Took me a moment to work out who was the victim in this headline
    A few more years inside and she may think hard before going for conviction 41.
    He said O’Leary had a difficult background and was currently having a hard time in custody


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,670 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    rubadub wrote: »
    I suggested that rather than having images of bikes painted it should be images of people with a line or X through them.
    How about images of people with a steel frame wrapped around their neck, dripping with blood and with several obviously broken bones?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    How about images of people with a steel frame wrapped around their neck, dripping with blood and with several obviously broken bones?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Supposedly Pat Kenny was surprisingly balanced and pro cycling this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,670 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    ED E wrote: »
    Supposedly Pat Kenny was surprisingly balanced and pro cycling this morning.

    About 10 minutes from the end of the first hour, ICYMI

    http://www.newstalk.com/listen_back/13240/37421/11th_July_2017_-_The_Pat_Kenny_Show_Part_1/

    and continues here.
    http://www.newstalk.com/listen_back/13240/37422/11th_July_2017_-_The_Pat_Kenny_Show_Part_2/


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,255 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    spotted on the commuting and transport forum:

    'The sky is the limit': Shane Ross targets Olympics in Ireland - and says it's a 'realistic prospect'
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/the-sky-is-the-limit-shane-ross-targets-olympics-in-ireland-and-says-its-a-realistic-prospect-35922326.html

    weird when so many cities are deciding it's really not worth the hassle.
    hey, at least we'd get the indoor velodrome then...


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    spotted on the commuting and transport forum:

    'The sky is the limit': Shane Ross targets Olympics in Ireland - and says it's a 'realistic prospect'
    http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/the-sky-is-the-limit-shane-ross-targets-olympics-in-ireland-and-says-its-a-realistic-prospect-35922326.html

    weird when so many cities are deciding it's really not worth the hassle.
    hey, at least we'd get the indoor velodrome then...

    Considering the cost of hosting it, unless they do what LA done and insist on previous infrastructure with a thought out plan on sustainable infrastructure for after the games, then I would say no.

    I don't think we have the space for it regardless but lets not BS here, sounds like a nice headline, tagged on with Rugby WC application, which will be years away, at which point even if he was serious, he will have retired or not have been reelected.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,255 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    IIRC, one of the reason gay mitchell's ambition for this failed was that the IOC reckon the minimum population size for a city to host it is 3.5m.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭dinneenp



    Just before the pause button on desktop.....


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,255 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Considering the cost of hosting it, unless they do what LA done and insist on previous infrastructure with a thought out plan on sustainable infrastructure for after the games, then I would say no.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/the-olympics-in-ireland-now-that-s-just-cynical-spoofery-1.3152693


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    dinneenp wrote: »
    Just before the pause button on desktop.....

    Shockingly accurate description.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    I'm pretty sure there was a call out for people to do another one this morning between 8.30 and 9.30am at the cycle lane beside Supervalu in Ranelagh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,255 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    meant to post this yesterday - section from the irish times weekend section on getting fit/active - this was the bit about cycling.

    422550.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Costs: One you have a bike, cycling is free.

    Eh, I wish that was the case. There's always another piece of kit to be bought.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,255 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i doubt that's aimed at the type of people who frequent this forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30 murf


    Yeah, I wear padded shorts or bibs almost every day when commuting because I want to be as comfortable as possible. If I weren't pressured into going fast by motor traffic and no infrastructure, I would use a Dutch cruiser and normal clothes.

    Padded shorts? Pfft. Brooks B33. "Saddlesore? Yeah, I'm vaguely familiar with the term" ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,670 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    buffalo wrote: »
    Actually, out of interest - do any 'pure' utility cyclists wear padded shorts? (i.e. bought them just for heading to work/shops, and never go on spins around the countryside.)
    99% of my cycling is commuting - 30-50 minute trips depending on the route. I do the occasional weekend spin of 1-2 hours, but probably less than one of those a month.

    I got Lidl padded shorts some years back, and they work well for me. They are certainly noticably more comfortable than ordinary shorts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,580 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    To steer the debate back towards journalism, that Luas video has given fuel to the fire online and I fully expect some cyclist bashing pieces on the newstalk and the last word this evening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I'm sure there were similar videos released showing near misses with motorists and pedestrians in the past. But they've been long forgotten and the ire will be concentrated on all cyclists.

    The funny thing is that there's no cyclists in that video of the type that people have their stereotypical rant about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,670 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    plodder wrote: »
    , whereas walking on footpaths in towns/cities can be made close to risk-free,
    Tell that to this guy -

    I'd definitely recommend 'going to the pub' helmets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭Chiparus


    There is a move away from segregation especially in the urban environment

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_space


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    http://www.thejournal.ie/m50-multiple-tolls-speed-limits-3502090-Jul2017/
    The report says that:
    “In Dublin, there should be additional circular routes to link outer suburbs and relieve the pressure on the M50.
    “The use of intelligent transport systems (ITS) coupled with the introduction of variable speed limits and multi-point tolling on the M50 should help mitigate an impending crisis on this route.
    The only viable option is construction of the Eastern Bypass to alleviate traffic queues on the M50 at peak times and to mitigate against the occasional massive delays caused by a fatal accident.”

    not public transport, not cycling, the only option is another road!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,990 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    not public transport, not cycling, the only option is another road!

    Engineers Ireland, whose members will most likely get paid far more for road building projects than they will for public transport alternatives recommend building more roads.

    In other news, a notable number of students vote to reduce cost of beer.


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