Will Ireland ever bring back a festival like Oxegen again?

deadybai · 17-07-2017 01:10PM #1

Haven't gone to any festival since Oxegen in 2011 . Mainly due to there being sh1te lineups at each festival since. I don't want to spend 500 quid to see Duran Duran and The weekend. They would have been on during the day of Oxegen.

The UK still have great lineups each year at their festival's

Why can't Oxegen come back? Why did it go in the first place ?

ILikeBoats · 17-07-2017 01:13PM

Because we aren't allowed have nice things.

DontThankMe · 17-07-2017 01:16PM

Brexit means that Glastonbury can be the only major festival in the Ireland or UK its part of the brexit negotiations.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 17-07-2017 01:18PM

Because we're a nation of scumbags and knacks who ruin everything because they're allowed to.

I was at a large beer festival a few years ago in a foreidgn cunntery, Gates opened at 10am and closed at 7pm, all day drinking, sampling beers and listening to music. Not one ounce of trouble all day. Couldn't imagine that happening in Ireland.

It's the inbreeding.

LeBash · 17-07-2017 01:20PM

Because promoters see that people are willing to pay 500 bones for a piss poor line up with 2 or 3 half decent names and then any old crap can fill the rest of the line up.

There was some festival here recently and none of the Irish bands were paid, that's just how much greed there is with the big promoters.

Now I realise there is a higher expense getting bands here over here to play 1 show, but they don't even bring a full rig here during a festival but I got 7 days at Roskilde for 250 euros with top bands playing all week and camping included + hot showers.

Hector Bellend · 17-07-2017 01:22PM

A festival that doesn't book Interpol and The redneck manifesto isn't worth attending

Collie D · 17-07-2017 01:23PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Because we're a nation of scumbags and knacks who ruin everything because they're allowed to.

I was at a large beer festival a few years ago in a foreidgn cunntery, Gates opened at 10am and closed at 7pm, all day drinking, sampling beers and listening to music. Not one ounce of trouble all day. Couldn't imagine that happening in Ireland.

It's the inbreeding.

This ****e again.

awec · 17-07-2017 01:23PM

Mr.S wrote: »

Oxegen killed itself with booking huge acts over the weekend which cost them a small fortune, look at the lineups back then, some crazy bills + was progressively getting worse and worse press (remember the MCD ban on here!?)

The likes of Forbidden Fruit and Longitude are easier to run and make $$$$$ on.

I'd say we'll see a camping mainstream festival come back at some point though, or MCD will just slowly turn EP into one.

Look at the 2013 lineup. It was pure rubbish.

seachto7 · 17-07-2017 01:26PM

Collie D wrote: »

This ****e again.

Well yeah. It's pretty relevant.

I got rid of my EP tickets for 2 years running. I got them for free, but I'd still end up spending a few hundred euro between civilised camping, food and the likes. The lineup would want to be seriously good.

Hope to go to Bilbao next year or some other random festival in Spain.

Hector Bellend · 17-07-2017 01:28PM

I know I'm getting old.

The posters for Festivals are starting to resemble the eye test charts in your local GP office

SEPT 23 1989 · 17-07-2017 01:33PM

45 pounds for 3 days

deadybai · 17-07-2017 01:34PM

Mr.S wrote:

Ah that one doesn't count, it was the nail in the coffin after they tried to bring it back after pulling it in 2012.

I was never so disappointed when they announced the lineup for that.

munchkin_utd · 17-07-2017 01:35PM

no doubt it boils down too to insanely high costs for insurance and security,
- which boils down to compo culture,
- which boils down to crazy court awards
- which boils down to inept politicians who see their job as shaking hands at funerals to build a profile for re-election rather than enact copped on laws to sort out the bleedin obvious flaws in the country
- which boils down to the product of the above mentioned inbreeding, who vote for politicans because they met them at a funeral or GAA or Rugby match

maybe the inbreeding is indeed the issue.

Collie D · 17-07-2017 01:35PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

45 pounds for 3 days

Now that's a lineup, remember watching on RTE too. Although with regard to the Roses on Sunday I believe Squire was already gone by then? Last gig?

ohnonotgmail · 17-07-2017 01:44PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Because we're a nation of scumbags and knacks who ruin everything because they're allowed to.

I was at a large beer festival a few years ago in a foreidgn cunntery, Gates opened at 10am and closed at 7pm, all day drinking, sampling beers and listening to music. Not one ounce of trouble all day. Couldn't imagine that happening in Ireland.

It's the inbreeding.

I have been to many beer festivals in this country that haven't had an ounce of trouble either. You need to try imagining harder.

mzungu · 17-07-2017 01:45PM

Collie D wrote: »

Now that's a lineup, remember watching on RTE too. Although with regard to the Roses on Sunday I believe Squire was already gone by then? Last gig?

He was still there for Feile 95 (he didn't leave until 1996) but Reni was gone, replaced by Robbie Maddix IIRC.

Collie D · 17-07-2017 01:48PM

mzungu wrote: »

He was still there for Feile 95 (he didn't leave until 1996) but Reni was gone, replaced by Robbie Maddix IIRC.

That was it..thanks. Knew they were in self destruct mode at the time. Squire leaving was Glastonbury 96 now I think of it.

Sugarlumps · 17-07-2017 01:48PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

45 pounds for 3 days

Went solo for the first two days before the missus joined me on the third day. Crate of boiled Bavaria 8.6 in tow. Excellent weekend.

mzungu · 17-07-2017 01:55PM

Collie D wrote: »

That was it..thanks. Knew they were in self destruct mode at the time. Squire leaving was Glastonbury 96 now I think of it.

There was no Glastonbury in 1996, however Squire missed Glastonbury 1995 (Pulp headlined as a last minute replacement for the Roses, and that made their name and turned Jarvis into a bit of a celeb) because he broke his arm. When Squire did leave, I think it was before festival season in 1996, because he wasn't there for infamous Reading 1996* gig that finished them off (Ian Brown put the band, and everybody else, out of their misery by disbanding a short while later).

* The replacements for Squire and Reni were great, but have a listen to Brown's vocals on this......tuneless doesn't even begin to describe it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9nAqD6Ffe4

r93kaey5p2izun · 17-07-2017 01:57PM

Oxegen 2006 was the last straw for me. Tents set on fire and all the cars broken into. I don't think I could ever camp at an Irish festival again, though I'm probably too old now anyway. I would like to see a good festival lineup again though.

kupus · 17-07-2017 01:59PM

Collie D wrote: »

This ****e again.

Its not shoite when its true. tis a pleasure to go to a concert in mainland Europe, no scobes, f'all fighting, not many people lying around puking their guts up.

etc etc.

Collie D · 17-07-2017 02:04PM

kupus wrote: »

Its not shoite when its true. tis a pleasure to go to a concert in mainland Europe, no scobes, f'all fighting, not many people lying around puking their guts up.

etc etc.

It happens but it's a very annoying and visible minority. Not exactly a nation of scumbags and knacks who inbreed.

deadybai · 17-07-2017 02:05PM

I think 06 was the start of the scummy behaviour. Times have changed somewhat though . EP seems to be marketed very cleverly as you never really hear of any incidents.

I think there is a lot more smaller festivals now . So people who just go for drink and drugs would go to the cheaper festivals for that craic if Oxegen was brought back. Obviously just a huge generalisation but I do think that we have become a lot more civilized as country in the last ten years

major bill · 17-07-2017 02:09PM

I went in 05 and from what I remember at the time it was seen as the last proper year without all the scumbags.

06 onwards it just turned to ****e

Le Bruise · 17-07-2017 02:12PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

45 pounds for 3 days

Went to the Saturday of this as my first ever gig. The epic opening act 'The Kelly Family' didn't seem to make the poster??

Dyr · 17-07-2017 02:12PM

I would assume that acts now don't have the pulling power that was around back then, I mean orbital and the aphex twin headlined that forbidden fruit yoke this year

The music industry fell of a cliff when it tried to hold the tide back on digital distribution

LuckyLloyd · 17-07-2017 02:17PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

45 pounds for 3 days

Sometimes a post just nails a topic beautifully, well played.

Pure tashte · 17-07-2017 02:37PM

I went from 05-07, great craic when you're 16/17 but it was a simpler time. It got progressively worse with each year I went, and apparently went downhill each year again after that. I can't comprehend how anyone would want to see it back again.

Most of the bands that would have headlined it have played their own shows in recent times (Green Day in Kilmainham, Foos at Slane, KOL in the 3), so it's not as if we're deprived of these type of gigs.

Caliden · 17-07-2017 02:49PM

Mr.S wrote: »

Oxegen killed itself with booking huge acts over the weekend which cost them a small fortune, look at the lineups back then, some crazy bills + was progressively getting worse and worse press (remember the MCD ban on here!?)

The likes of Forbidden Fruit and Longitude are easier to run and make $$$$$ on.

I'd say we'll see a camping mainstream festival come back at some point though, or MCD will just slowly turn EP into one.

Witness 2002 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witnness#2002_Festival
130 euro for the weekend camping ticket.

Pick 2 of the first 15 acts mentioned there and those are considered headliners now.

Crap security and no enforcement means that the 'ferals' are allowed to run wild. I was at Oxegen in 2011 and it was a **** show.

Cina · 17-07-2017 02:51PM

I just don't see why you'd go to an irish festival anymore when you can get this (which was incredible) for half the price abroad, and not get soaked.

Will Ireland ever bring back a festival like Oxegen again?

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