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Would you be ok with white Irish becoming a minority?

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  • 15-07-2017 2:36am
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    Jurgen Klopp
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    So I came across the fact that Ballyhaunis a small town in Mayo now has white Irish people as a minority only making up 40% of the town.

    White Irish kids only account for 28% of the community school, think I read somewhere a lot of local parents are now sending their kids to the rural schools outside the town and away from the community school

    The Guardian had some video put up in the last few weeks about how great such diversity is in the town so I found these articles

    http://www.mayonews.ie/news/26885-social-cohesion-of-ballyhaunis-under-threat

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/life-in-ballyhaunis-irelands-most-culturally-diverse-town-369099.html

    I don't mind taking in needy refugees and that for as long as needs be but in regards to simple immigration does anyone else feel extremely uncomfortable at such figures especially if it becomes more widespread?

    Trying to make sense of it I was thinking if say somewhere like China started allowing in so many people that the Chinese became a minority in their own homeland it would seem fcukin nuts

    Would you be ok with white Irish becoming a minority? 148 votes

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    KungPao
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    Absolutely not.


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    Victor
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    No mods about, so the racists come out, eh?
    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    Trying to make sense of it I was thinking if say somewhere like China started allowing in so many people that the Chinese became a minority in their own homeland it would seem fcukin nuts
    How about you compare like for like? Ballyhaunis has a population of about 2,312 (and is still majority Irish), China has a population of 1,371,000,000. http://census.cso.ie/areaprofiles/PDF/ST/ballyhaunis.pdf

    Area China 9,597,000 km²
    Area Ireland 70,273 km²

    From http://www.gcmap.com
    Tripoli, Libya to Dublin 2,778 km
    Ürümqi, China to Haikou Meilan, China 3,410 km

    China is not a homogeneous culture: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/6h9781/language_map_of_china_2000x1700/ there is vast amounts of migration in China, especially from rural areas to the cities in the east and south.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_China_and_Taiwan "Besides the Han majority, 55 other ethnic groups are recognised in China by the PRC government, numbering approximately 105 million people"


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    rachb
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    Victor wrote: »
    No mods about, so the racists come out, eh?How about you compare like for like?

    Area China 9,597,000 km²
    Area Ireland 70,273 km²

    From http://www.gcmap.com
    Tripoli, Libya to Dublin 2,778 km
    Ürümqi, China to Haikou Meilan, China 3,410 km

    China is not a homogeneous culture: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/6h9781/language_map_of_china_2000x1700/ there is vast amounts of migration in China, especially from rural areas to the cities in the east and south.

    Seriously?? Nothing racist about asking this!
    To answer your question OP- No!
    No town in any country should become a minority in their race!


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    Shpudnik
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    Victor wrote: »
    No mods about, so the racists come out, eh?

    There's still mods about. They are always watching.

    On topic: I probably wouldn't be ok with it but I come from a really rural area with 3 generations of most families there so any outsiders tend not to fit in. A minority Irish would be inconceivable to most people here.


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    Junkyard Tom
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    Jurgen Klopp wrote: »
    Would you be ok with white Irish becoming a minority?

    Can you tell me when this is predicted to happen?


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    Jim Bob Scratcher
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    I'm gonna have to say yes, because I don't won't to offend anyone.


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Perhaps people should have listened to the colonel, he offered a solution for less than €6 a head a year of us EU peoples...

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/7973649/Gaddafi-Europe-will-turn-black-unless-EU-pays-Libya-4bn-a-year.html


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    Todd Gack
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    As a mildly attractive white Irish man it may make me more exotic so yes please continue with the proposal


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    RayM
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    Can't see it happening, tbh. And if it does... as long as most people are sound, it wouldn't bother me.

    Right now, I'm more concerned about the burglar alarm going off in the distance. I hope it stops soon because I don't want to have to sleep with the window closed. It's fierce mild again.


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    Arghus
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    Yeah, I'd be totally sound with it.


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    Rabbo
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    It has happened in the North where the indigenous Irish people have become a minority and it hasn't turned out too well there


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    pappyodaniel
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    Ballyhaunis is a dump. It'll b nice to add a bit of colour to the place.


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    alchemist33
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    Rabbo wrote: »
    It has happened in the North where the indigenous Irish people have become a minority and it hasn't turned out too well there

    It happened in Ireland as a whole too, where the native Irish were taken over by the Celts. Hard to assess whether this was a good or bad thing though.


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    busheisha
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    Is color most important than culture?


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    Victor
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    I've added up the nationalities in my building.

    French x 1
    Iranian x 1
    Romanian x 2
    Arab (not sure where) x 2
    Arab-Irish x 2
    Irish x 3

    The world hasn't collapsed.


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    judeboy101
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    No, the white Irish became a minority in northern Ireland after partition and look how that worked out for them!!


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    Richard Hillman
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    There are no records in the history of the world of where mass immigration worked out well for the indigenous population. It has never been done. It has a 100% fail rate.


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    rachb wrote: »
    No town in any country should become a minority in their race!

    That looks a bit...mangled?

    Maybe it's early for me. I'll have another look later.


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    pickarooney
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    There are no records in the history of the world of where mass immigration worked out well for the indigenous population. It has never been done. It has a 100% fail rate.

    Paraguay?


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    deco nate
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    alchemist33 wrote: »
    It happened in Ireland as a whole too, where the native Irish were taken over by the Celts. Hard to assess whether this was a good or bad thing though.
    Weren't the Irish always "celts"? ?


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    Victor
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    deco nate wrote: »
    Weren't the Irish always "celts"? ?

    Nope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts


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    Will I Am Not
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    I live in one of the most "multicultural" towns in the country. It's changed the town for the worse, there's absolutely no doubt about that but people who don't live there and don't have to live with the crime and intimidation from young males with no prospects that it has brought would tell me how great it is to have such diversity

    I don't blame the immigrants. It's just the natural course it takes when you do the same as what history tells you doesn't work.
    Place thousands of Irish in a working class town in any country in the world that doesn't share the same values and with little opportunity for them and the same thing would most likely happen.

    Immigration on a large scale could possibly work but not how it's done over and over again in every part of the continent that it takes place, but I guess the people that make these decisions aren't affected so...


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    NIMAN
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    Its going to be a VERY long time before white Irish are in a minority in this country, in fact it ain't going to happen.

    If you compare Ireland to the likes of the UK, we have hardly any non-nationals at all.


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    Achasanai
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    The Fake Sheikh wrote: »
    I live in one of the most "multicultural" towns in the country. .

    Which town?


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    Mrs OBumble
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    What is "white Irish" please? Does it include Travellers? People with swathy skin because of some family interaction with the Spanish from the armada? People with dark skin but three generations born here? People with non Irish surnames, eg de Burgo?


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    #27
    Will I Am Not
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    Achasanai wrote: »
    Which town?

    Balbriggan, it also happens to be the youngest town in Ireland according to the latest census release which comes as no surprise at all.


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    judeboy101
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    The Fake Sheikh wrote: »
    Balbriggan, it also happens to be the youngest town in Ireland according to the latest census release which comes as no surprise at all.

    I thought maynooth was youngest town?


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    Mrs Shuttleworth
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    The Fake Sheikh wrote: »
    Balbriggan, it also happens to be the youngest town in Ireland according to the latest census release which comes as no surprise at all.

    It has another nickname as I'm sure you well know.

    Heard a nasty story recently about diseases spreading in the area that are never usually found in Ireland.


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    Will I Am Not
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    judeboy101 wrote: »
    I thought maynooth was youngest town?

    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/balbriggan-revealed-irelands-youngest-town-13292223.amp


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    donegaLroad
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    Driving into Dublin city centre about five years ago, I had to stop and ask directions to an address near Smithfield. The first three people I asked didn't have any English.. all white by the way. When i found someone who spoke English, he turned out to be eastern European.


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