Fine Gael: Frank Feighan wants Ireland to pay for the British olympics!

13-07-2017 04:28PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Shudder, why?

A brave & courageous visit by HRH Prince Charles.
Well done also to the Taoiseach for his warm welcome (not forgetting the crowds) who came out to welcome Charles.

The 1st step in normalisation between Britain & Ireland for a long time, culminating in the Queens visit, which was an even a bigger success (according to most people).

Even as a republican (note the lowercase 'r'), I happen to agree that this visit was a positive and important step in normalising Anglo-Irish relations.

i think what riffmongous was cringing at, like myself (and I daresay most people), was the memory and magnitude of John Bruton's fawning on that visit, which he described as the "happiest moment of [his] life". I'm sure Mrs Bruton was cringing too.

There is also something of a mental recoil at Bruton's form in similar regards... his 'uneasiness' about members of the Irish Army visiting schools with copies of the Proclamation, his criticisms of 1916 -- despite his ardent commemoration of the brutal waste of human life in WW1.

I suspect he is an outlier, both in terms of his own party, and wider Irish society.

sbsquarepants · 13-07-2017 04:38PM

Kenneth Ancient Pianist wrote: »

The title is somewhat misleading. From what I gather, the suggestion is that the commonwealth games should be held in Ireland, which would be absolutely fantastic for our economy. Or am I misunderstanding/missing the tweets?

I'd prefer if we held the French open, I like the clay courts though.

The tour deFrance went past my house a while back, so why not.
We're every bit as French as we are commonwealthers, commomonwealthians, commonwealthlanders, members of the commonwealth.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 13-07-2017 04:44PM

Rep of Ireland should compete in the CG as a special guest.

We could use it as development tool for athletes during Olympic cycles. Give them the experience of being involved in a 'Games' type atmosphere.

13-07-2017 04:47PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Rep of Ireland should compete in the CG as a special guest.

We could use it as development tool for athletes during Olympic cycles. Give them the experience of being involved in a 'Games' type atmosphere.

Yeah, a bit like Oz in the Eurovision.

I wouldn't like Ireland to participate as a formal member, but there's nothing wrong with that 'guest participant' idea at all.

LordSutch · 13-07-2017 05:07PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Yeah, a bit like Oz in the Eurovision.

Well Australia is of course on the other side of the planet from Europe, whereas Ireland & Britain are but twelve miles apart + the fact that we even have an overlap between our two States, so why not take part in the games (as practice) if nothing else for the Olympics!

Sometimes I think this whole business of pretemding to be totally foreign & distant from our brothers & sisters next door is taken to far.

13-07-2017 05:10PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Shudder, why?

A brave & courageous visit by HRH Prince Charles.
Well done also to the Taoiseach for his warm welcome (not forgetting the crowds) who came out to welcome Charles.

The 1st step in normalisation between Britain & Ireland for a long time, culminating in the Queens visit, which was an even a bigger success (according to most people).

Not the visit but as Tyrant says below the state of Bruton during it, 'embarrassingly effusive' to quote The Times and the Guardian said something similar about him

13-07-2017 05:19PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Sometimes I think this whole business of pretemding to be totally foreign & distant from our brothers & sisters next door is taken to far.

I don't personally know anyone who would describe our relationship as totally distant. We are neighbours and freinds, maybe even the best of friends. As that great historian Imelda May once said, we've secretly been friends for years, but now it's official.

Those who stoke opposition to British and Irish friendship, be they unionist or nationalist, are totally out of kilter with mainstream public opinion, or at least as far as I can tell.

feargale · 13-07-2017 10:49PM

I would have serious reservationa about Ireland hosting any major international sporting event be it the Olympics (Shane Ross ) or this. Fintan O'Toole had an interesting piece in the Irish Times a few days ago in which he questioned the appropriateness of hosting the Rugby world cup while children are homeless and our health service is a mess. I agree with him.

An Claidheamh wrote: »

Now he seems to believe that the "commonwealth games", a British vanity project where the Isle of Man and Zimbabwe do battle in netball for the Queen's amusement should be given billions by the Irish taxpayer.

Of course, the British Commonwealth is just a front for the British empire, Belfast cannot afford to host anything, there is no such thing as an "all-island" games and the fact that Ireland left the British empire /Commonwealth does not seem to have registered with Frank Feighan of Roscommon.

Holding any part of the Commonwealth Games in the Republic is a pipe dream. But a vanity project? Several countries voluntarily participate in Francophone and Lusophone Games. The links these days are largely cultural and linguistic. The Tailteann Games were not an altogether dissimilar project, gathering among others those Irish living on land that had been taken from indigenous Americans. Were those games a vanity project?
Why shouldn't the Isle of Man take part? Have you some problem about netball? Reference to Zimbabwe is reminiscent of Sammy Wilson comparing the Irish language to Swahili.

P.S. You seem to have a huge problem with unionists. I thought equality of esteem was the buzzword in the wake of the GFA. That is not to say that you can't vehemently disagree with unionism, but are some more equally esteemed than others?

P.S. Nelson Mandela had no problem with the Commonwealth Games.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 13-07-2017 10:54PM

feargale wrote: »

I would have serious reservationa about Ireland hosting any major international sporting event be it the Olympics (Shane Ross ) or this. Fintan O'Toole had an interesting piece in the Irish Times a few days ago in which he questioned the appropriateness of hosting the Rugby world cup while children are homeless and our health service is a mess. I agree with him.

Holding any part of the Commonwealth Games in the Republic is a pipe dream. But a vanity project? Several countries voluntarily participate in Francophone and Lusophone Games. The links these days are largely cultural and linguistic. The Tailteann Games were not an altogether dissimilar project, gathering among others those Irish living on land that had been taken from indigenous Americans. Were those games a vanity project?
Why shouldn't the Isle of Man take part? Have you some problem about netball? Reference to Zimbabwe is reminiscent of Sammy Wilson comparing the Irish language to Swahili.

OP is not coming back. Don't waste your breathe.

Royal Legend · 13-07-2017 10:55PM

i think that this thread has gone off topic,

we need to know what happened to Bantam, where did he disappear to 5 years and 8 months ago and why?

was it one Sh1te too far or did he self combust?

13-07-2017 10:57PM

Royal Legend wrote: »

i think that this thread has gone off topic,

we need to know what happened to Bantam, where did he disappear to 5 years and 8 months ago and why?

was it one Sh1te too far or did he self combust?

Oh he's still here. He's a lot less ... faecel ... these days, but somehow more objectionable, and devoid of humour.

Realt Dearg Sec · 14-07-2017 12:30AM

feargale wrote: »

The Tailteann Games were not an altogether dissimilar project, gathering among others those Irish living on land that had been taken from indigenous Americans. Were those games a vanity project?

Yes, of course they were! What a funny question.

feargale · 14-07-2017 07:20PM

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Yes, of course they were! What a funny question.

Not half as vain as the vanity project that put them out of business in 1932, the one where the Dublin city councillors pledged unquestioning obedience to a foreign monarch ( not the British one. )

Isn't that right, Gaelach? :halo:

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14-07-2017 07:26PM

hairyslug wrote: »

I can offer very little to this thread except to tell you that the Ilac is not where you want to go for a "quick dump"

Nutgrove Shopping Centre isn't the worst spot, possibly because the jacks are a bit of a walk away from the shops.

14-07-2017 08:10PM

LordSutch wrote: »

Shudder, why?

A brave & courageous visit by HRH Prince Charles.
Well done also to the Taoiseach for his warm welcome (not forgetting the crowds) who came out to welcome Charles.

The 1st step in normalisation between Britain & Ireland for a long time, culminating in the Queens visit, which was an even a bigger success (according to most people).

Correction: brown nosing. Even certain sections of the British media replied with the comment re Bruton's pathetic sycophantic behaviour: "excuse me, they are our royals".

Fine Gael: Frank Feighan wants Ireland to pay for the British olympics!

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