Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

Andersonisgod · 13-07-2017 10:43PM

irishman86 wrote: »

I agree with you about Walker a poor mans Dani Alves (Not current Alves, Sevilla Alves) will suit Pep down to the ground
I hope to be proven wrong about Valverde, I see him failing at Barcelona, for me a yes man, this signing proves nothing more than Bellerin not wanting the move or wanting to force the move, if Cesc hadnt moved to Barca back in the day there is no doubt that Bellerin would have made the move this summer

That could be entirely true. Could be that Valverde insisted on Semedo over Bellerin. Either way, we'll see how Valverde does as head coach.

Liamalone · 13-07-2017 11:02PM

Jeekers. Everton paying £50m for Sigurdsson. Is all gone crazy. I must be worth £200 in today's market surely!

Mr.Nice Guy · 13-07-2017 11:20PM

Semedo's pace is seriously impressive. I'm looking forward to seeing how he does at Barcelona.

Right-backs seem to be highly coveted at the minute. It makes you wonder what Seamus Coleman's options would have been had he not suffered that awful injury. He might have been linked with a good few clubs. Having said that, Everton looks a good place to be right now.

Cantona's Collars · 13-07-2017 11:32PM

https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/885620011712352260

Arsenal have contacted Chelsea about swapping Oxelaide Chamberlain for Matic.

Andersonisgod · 13-07-2017 11:36PM

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/885620011712352260

Arsenal have contacted Chelsea about swapping Oxelaide Chamberlain for Matic.

Do it! Do it now!!

Cantona's Collars · 13-07-2017 11:44PM

https://twitter.com/SkyKaveh/status/885606650752663552

Juventus about to sell Bonucci - arguably best centre back in the world - to AC Milan for £35m

They'd ask an English club for £55 million.

Trigger · 14-07-2017 08:13AM

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SkyKaveh/status/885606650752663552

Juventus about to sell Bonucci - arguably best centre back in the world - to AC Milan for £35m

They'd ask an English club for £55 million.

Don't think he would go to an English club in fairness. It's being reported that his wife doesn't want to leave Italy and he grew up in Milan I think (he started out with Inter)so it makes sense. He doesn't get on with Allegri as well so that might be why the fee is low

TrustedApple · 14-07-2017 08:32AM

Crazy bargin for Bonucci for 35 mil in this market !!!!.

Where john Stones is worth 50 !!!!!

inforfun · 14-07-2017 08:33AM

astradave wrote: »

Don't think he would go to an English club in fairness. It's being reported that his wife doesn't want to leave Italy and he grew up in Milan I think (he started out with Inter)so it makes sense. He doesn't get on with Allegri as well so that might be why the fee is low

Mostly because one of his kids has cancer.
Tried to play out Milan and Juve by laying down Milans offer of €6,5 million per year on Juve's able, looking for more.
Juve just told him to accept the Milan offer and go.

Apparently, Bonucci is a bit of a brat.

Quazzie · 14-07-2017 08:59AM

TrustedApple wrote: »

Crazy bargin for Bonucci for 35 mil in this market !!!!.

Where john Stones is worth 50 !!!!!

John Stones has the advantage of youth, whereas Bonucci is 30 now, so although he probably has many years left at the top, they are a lot less than Stones potentially has.

14-07-2017 09:14AM

inforfun wrote: »

Mostly because one of his kids has cancer.
Tried to play out Milan and Juve by laying down Milans offer of €6,5 million per year on Juve's able, looking for more.
Juve just told him to accept the Milan offer and go.

Apparently, Bonucci is a bit of a brat.

apparently Alves and him got into a fight with Allegri, Dybala and another player who slips my mind during half time in the champions league final and Bonnucci slapped Dybala

Giggsy11 · 14-07-2017 09:17AM

Solomon Colossal Back wrote: »

apparently Alves and him got into a fight with Allegri, Dybala and another player who slips my mind during half time in the champions league final and Bonnucci slapped Dybala

Barzagli.

BullBlackNova · 14-07-2017 09:30AM

Nathaniel Chalobah leaves Chelsea and joins Watford for £5 million.

Never really got a look in at Chelsea, though was involved in 10 games last season and seemed highly rated by some.

Be interesting to see what he can do now if he gets regular football. For the price (especially in this market) it actually seems like a potentially decent deal, though damning for Chelsea who, according to ESPN, etc were reluctant to let him go.

I also missed Jack Cork moving to Burnley for £10m. He's a pretty decent player - they've got a few good options in that part of the pitch now and Im surprised Swansea let him go.

Lukker- · 14-07-2017 09:48AM

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Nathaniel Chalobah leaves Chelsea and joins Watford for £5 million.

Never really got a look in at Chelsea, though was involved in 10 games last season and seemed highly rated by some.

Be interesting to see what he can do now if he gets regular football. For the price (especially in this market) it actually seems like a potentially decent deal, though damning for Chelsea who, according to ESPN, etc were reluctant to let him go.

I also missed Jack Cork moving to Burnley for £10m. He's a pretty decent player - they've got a few good options in that part of the pitch now and Im surprised Swansea let him go.

Chalobah is good but not at the required level for Chelsea. At least not for the foreseeable. Don't get me wrong, he's a very talented player but he was on the last year of his contract and didn't want to sign a new one, moving is best for all parties.

For a CM he is lacking defensively, doesn't get up and down the pitch enough to suit any role he'd play at Chelsea. He's a bit of a luxury for a top team, he has a good passing range and very good awareness for what is happening around him, but he's not going to open up teams with a ball in behind. For the amount of development and attention he needs he's better off at Watford. I would have gladly kept him if he wanted to sign a new contract, but I believe he'd prob get a similar enough amount of cameo appearances as last season.

Harry Palmr · 14-07-2017 09:52AM

Ake, Solanke, Chalobah and likely Zouma this summer and no doubt Abraham, Loftus-Cheek next summer

Lukker- · 14-07-2017 09:59AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ake, Solanke, Chalobah and likely Zouma this summer and no doubt Abraham, Loftus-Cheek next summer

Zouma will be loaned. Solanke has refused to sign a contract for over a year and it has been known since before Christmas that he was in talks with Liverpool.

Regardless if they make it with Chelsea or not, there is a serious amount of graduates being loaned/sold to other PL teams.

Chancer3001 · 14-07-2017 10:03AM

It's part of Chelsea a transfer strategy. Buy a load of young players. Loan them out to save wages. Sell them at a profit.

It's genius when it works. And it's been working very well for them.

Lukker- · 14-07-2017 10:10AM

Chancer3001 wrote: »

It's part of Chelsea a transfer strategy. Buy a load of young players. Loan them out to save wages. Sell them at a profit.

It's genius when it works. And it's been working very well for them.

A good chunk of the players they've loaned/sold this season they didn't buy but are graduates from the academy.

GavRedKing · 14-07-2017 10:12AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Ake, Solanke, Chalobah and likely Zouma this summer and no doubt Abraham, Loftus-Cheek next summer

Abraham wont be sold at all. Hes just signed a 5 year contract.

While a lot of the players coming out of the academy are good, none of them have had a break out season like Abraham.

patrickSTARR · 14-07-2017 10:47AM

I'm surprised some English clubs haven't tried hijack Milans Bonucci bid. At 35 mil he's a bargain, one of the best defenders in the world and at least 4 good season left in him. Id love to take him to Chelsea (not that we need him but with Conte in charge), but I'm surprised City haven't snapped him up considering their very shaky at the back.

Mitch Connor · 14-07-2017 10:48AM

patrickSTARR wrote: »

I'm surprised some English clubs haven't tried hijack Milans Bonucci bid. At 35 mil he's a bargain, one of the best defenders in the world and at least 4 good season left in him. Id love to take him to Chelsea (not that we need him but with Conte in charge), but I'm surprised City haven't snapped him up considering their very shaky at the back.

Wife doesn't want to leave Italy, and his kid has medical issues which might also mean they have no interest in leaving Italy.

beakerjoe · 14-07-2017 10:51AM

The old Alex Ferguson saying comes to mind,...... You may not need a player in certain position, but if a great player becomes available andhe improves on what you have got, then sign him up. United don't need a centre half but I'd love if they hijacked that deal. Prob best defender in the world.

patrickSTARR · 14-07-2017 10:52AM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Wife doesn't want to leave Italy, and his kid has medical issues which might also mean they have no interest in leaving Italy.

Whats wrong with his kid? Yeah I wouldn't be rushing to England with their NHS either. (Not that Ireland is much better)

GLaDOS · 14-07-2017 10:54AM

patrickSTARR wrote: »

(Not that Ireland is much better)

I don't think Dundalk are in for him anyway

Though they didn't really replace Andy Boyle

ERG89 · 14-07-2017 10:59AM

Harry Palmr wrote:

Ake, Solanke, Chalobah and likely Zouma this summer and no doubt Abraham, Loftus-Cheek next summer

It's not just a Chelsea issue but I don't understand why English teams even have academies as they seem to barely promote players from them to the club. Playing the u21's does damn all good either as the standard seems far too pedestrian

Harry Palmr · 14-07-2017 11:16AM

ERG89 wrote: »

It's not just a Chelsea issue but I don't understand why English teams even have academies as they seem to barely promote players from them to the club. Playing the u21's does damn all good either as the standard seems far too pedestrian

The academy system is effectively an incubator for the lower PL, Championship and League One - youth Liverpool players who have been let go/sold for pittance are at Watford, Palace, QPR, Norwich, Bolton, Derby, Barnsley, Wolverhampton, Yeovil, and er Accrington Stanley plus a few to foreign sides like Gulácsi (!), Suso and Texiera.

This really LFC thread chat but I really hope Harry Wilson goes on loan as he is just way too good for the U23s. It'll kill his chances of a proper career if he is at Academy level for another year.

NIMAN · 14-07-2017 11:18AM

The only thing that would help would be a foreigner rule again.

I would love to see this introduced in the game again. Would allow the talent to be spread out among more teams and make the game better.

The Red Lad · 14-07-2017 11:31AM

Bonnuci is top quality there's no denying, Conte mustn't be a happy man losing out on two of his prime targets in him and lukaku, with Costa all but left you'd wonder who they will bring in now. Spurs laughing all the way to the bank with that 50 million for Walker think if there centre half pairing can stay fit along with Ali and Kane they could really get over the line this year pending how they settle in Wembley.

GavRedKing · 14-07-2017 12:29PM

The Red Lad wrote: »

Bonnuci is top quality there's no denying, Conte mustn't be a happy man losing out on two of his prime targets in him and lukaku, with Costa all but left you'd wonder who they will bring in now. Spurs laughing all the way to the bank with that 50 million for Walker think if there centre half pairing can stay fit along with Ali and Kane they could really get over the line this year pending how they settle in Wembley.

He may have been a target but he was never leaving Italy and I'd say that was told to Chelsea last summer and this summer too, hence why Rudiger was signed up last week. Conte wanted Rudiger as his first choice last year until he got injured too, then it moved to Koulibaily, who Napoli wouldnt sell and we ended up with Luiz, all worked out in the end.

No idea about a CF but I wouldnt be surprised if we went back in for Llorente as a stop gap, which isnt exactly a great replacement for Costa.

cj maxx · 14-07-2017 12:59PM

NIMAN wrote: »

The only thing that would help would be a foreigner rule again.

I would love to see this introduced in the game again. Would allow the talent to be spread out among more teams and make the game better.

With Brexit that might be a possibility.
I never thought of that!

Summer transfer thread 17/18 season (NEYMAR TALK IN OTHER THREAD)

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