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All Ireland Senior Football Championships 2017 - Read Mod Note Post #1

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  • #3362
    C__MC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭C__MC


    I'd be weary of cork if I was mayo, the knives from the media are really being fired at them. Dangerous game as you'd expect a response for the sake of pride in cork football


  • #3363
    Stoner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    jr86 wrote:
    I remember cork threw together a makeshift "blanket" in 2014 after being trounced by Kerry. To be fair it worked well in the first half v mayo

    Lots of teams do well against Mayo in the first half. It's what makes them a serious team, they are with the Dubs till the end too


  • #3364
    seligehgit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Stoner wrote: »
    You know it's about Spillane making sure he got it though, you're a reasonable man you must see the distinction between accepting DC was wrong and how Spillane handled it

    And a Mayo poster brought it up here, and you've brought it up too, and I'm talking about it . Maybe we should all move on.
    This would be like Ciaran Whelan paying particular attention to COC on the Sunday game to make sure action is taken. COC and Harrison still did whatever they did, but you wouldn't like a Dub pointing it out. That's what Dolan and Brolly pulled him up for.

    That hasn't happened here, and hopefully no more agenda based media trials happen again this year. The championship is too short for lads

    Totally agree Stoner but irrespective of the bias of Pat Spillane,he had in my opinion little influence on the likely outcome.Little more than a smokescreen.He may have relished the opportunity to put the boot in but all the CCCC had to do was as always view the match tape on Monday morning and the incident was black and white.It was always likely to feature strongly given it was televised live and was a big talking point.

    He interfered however little with a match official whose protection I believe is absolutely sacrosanct,hence the three month ban as per the rule book.

    You are dead right that I wouldn't particularly be overjoyed at Ciaran Whelan throwing in his tuppence re an incident involving either of the O Connor brothers.TBF I really rate Whelan as an analyst,little of histrionics and I don't believe he's overly biased,very fair in his opinions.

    Time to move on.;)


  • #3365
    Stoner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    C__MC wrote:
    I'd be weary of cork if I was mayo, the knives from the media are really being fired at them. Dangerous game as you'd expect a response for the sake of pride in cork football


    But they don't respond to that do they? It just seems to make them worse, their last three managers all look lost although they did win in 2010, that team should have won more.


  • #3366
    Dyr
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    km79 wrote: »
    He started collecting POTY trophies
    Diarmo doesn't have one of them ;)

    You need more than one of something before its a collection :D

    That reminds me, I hear Mayo are hoping to start a full forward collection this year


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  • #3367
    DDC1990
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    Stoner wrote: »
    You know it's about Spillane making sure he got it though, you're a reasonable man you must see the distinction between accepting DC was wrong and how Spillane handled it

    Yeah Spillane maliciously read that rule for all to hear. Did you hear how he twisted the meaning of the rule to ensure that the CCCCCCC would have to change their minds and bow down to our Kerry Flag waving 8 All Ireland Medal wielding overlord and ban poor Dermo!

    I mean the referee's report where the linesman documented the shove was never going to be enough on it's own. Luckily Spillane tarnished Diarmuid "punching Lee Keegan and knee dropping a prone Kildare player" Connolly's good name just enough to ensure that the 12 week suspension would hold out.

    Pat Spillane spouts an enormous amount of ****e - the one time he stays sensible and on task Jim Gavin devotes a press conference to calling him out and RTE give Brolly unlimited air time to attack him. I guess he'll have to stick to religious references and calling every bit of good play from any county "Kerry-esque" from now on.


  • #3368
    The Talking Bread
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    Ah, the Spillane/Connolly stuff again. All my Christmases are coming at once!


    Can we talk about Carlow GAA maybe! What a Championship for them so far! 3 wins! Gave Dublin a bit of a game as well. Could be very dark horses Saturday week ! (Disclaimer...I know they haven't a realistic hope!) Broderick is second top scorer as well!


  • #3369
    Stoner
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    DDC1990 wrote:
    Yeah Spillane maliciously read that rule for all to hear. Did you hear how he twisted the meaning of the rule to ensure that the CCCCCCC would have to change their minds and bow down to our Kerry Flag waving 8 All Ireland Medal wielding overlord and ban poor Dermo!

    Didn't hear him read a rule about taking PEDs though.

    I'm with Dessie on this one. Pat had an agenda.

    We all know and recognise what DC did, there's no point reminding you about that again, you seem to prefer the simple argument.

    Anyway I'm not revisiting this.


  • #3370
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Why would he read the rule out about someone that had already been banned months earlier? Hardly topical. Dumb comparison that does nothing to further your argument tbh.


  • #3371
    Poor_old_gill
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    Stoner wrote: »
    Didn't hear him read a rule about taking PEDs though.

    I'm with Dessie on this one. Pat had an agenda.

    We all know and recognise what DC did, there's no point reminding you about that again, you seem to prefer the simple argument.

    Anyway I'm not revisiting this.

    When you are with Dessie on anything- you are probably wrong. Dessie is just trying to make a name for himself and as he offers nothing in the way of insight he must go down the tried and tested RTE controversy route.

    I dont think Pat had an agenda- it was a big talking point from a big player in a game where essentially nothing else happened- it had to be covered.

    Factor in that Sky had already covered it and it was something that they were always going to discuss, in detail.

    It's actually getting quite hard to understand how people cant get their heads around the fact that Sky had dealt with it and everyone was already talking about it- but I guess it helps in Gavin's attempts to build some kind of petty/childish 'us v them' mentality.

    An agenda would be Pat and several Kerry journalists all coming out at the same time on the same topic in advance of a big match with the intention of influencing it but sure that would never happen ;)


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  • #3372
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    Surely Cillian O Connor is getting a hefty ban after Saturday?

    Clare people very agreived after the game, 6 or 7 big calls against them which turned the game and then helped keep it there in Mayos favour.

    Another ref or one doing its job properly would have seen Clare win. Some shocking poor decisions and every one of them then turned into a key moment in the game.
    getting away with nasty stuff for the last few seasons
    he's always in the referees ear too


  • #3373
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    getting away with nasty stuff for the last few seasons
    he's always in the referees ear too

    Yeah it's funny as I hadnt noticed it until last year really- but he's very nasty/petty on the pitch.
    How he jumped into/over the keeper the last day while leaving a bit on him was hilarious in its sneakiness and he constantly seems to be wasping away at people.


  • #3374
    DoctaDee
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Why would he read the rule out about someone that had already been banned months earlier? Hardly topical. Dumb comparison that does nothing to further your argument tbh.

    Ah but that's not a true context of the timeline either Jayop .. Sports Ireland confirmed that O'Sullivan was banned on 29th May, Dublin game was 3rd June - both stories were the same week


  • #3375
    homerjay2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    getting away with nasty stuff for the last few seasons
    he's always in the referees ear too

    given the straight reds for Higgins and Durkin in the first two games, the 2 head high tackles on Saturday plus the O Connor punch and the WWE style body slam by Harrison that both also went unpunihsed, are Mayo now the dirtiest team in the GAA?


  • #3376
    BonnieSituation
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    homerjay2005 wrote: »
    given the straight reds for Higgins and Durkin in the first two games, the 2 head high tackles on Saturday plus the O Connor punch and the WWE style body slam by Harrison that both also went unpunihsed, are Mayo now the dirtiest team in the GAA?

    People will still give that title to Tyrone for one reason or another I would say.


    Mayo are filth though. And in fairness, they've tried everything else to lift Sam. They may as well give cute hoorism and assault a go.


  • #3377
    yop
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    People will still give that title to Tyrone for one reason or another I would say.


    Mayo are filth though. And in fairness, they've tried everything else to lift Sam. They may as well give cute hoorism and assault ago.

    Same filth as Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone. No difference anymore


  • #3378
    keane2097
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    Is it Tuesday mornings now that we all wind up the Mayo fans?

    Aidan O'Shea is a shaper and Cillian O'Connor is a no-trick pony if so.


  • #3379
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Is it Tuesday mornings now that we all wind up the Mayo fans?

    Aidan O'Shea is a shaper and Cillian O'Connor is a no-trick pony if so.

    It's every day I thought?


  • #3380
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    yop wrote: »
    Same filth as Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone. No difference anymore

    Ah there is. Those teams win All-Ireland's.


  • #3381
    keane2097
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    It's every day I thought?

    No that's just the persecution complex.


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  • #3382
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    keane2097 wrote: »
    No that's just the persecution complex.

    It really is hard to tell anymore. It's gonna be a long summer.


  • #3383
    elefant
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    DoctaDee wrote: »
    Ah but that's not a true context of the timeline either Jayop .. Sports Ireland confirmed that O'Sullivan was banned on 29th May, Dublin game was 3rd June - both stories were the same week

    What good would reading a rule out have done for that? He had already served his suspension.

    He was analyst for a game, where an incident happened that was already in the centre of the media spotlight. You expected him to bring up a doping case where the punishment had, not only already been meted out, but actually fully served? Why? To somehow prove he's not forwarding some sort of Kerry agenda on the Sunday Game?


  • #3384
    PARlance
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    It really is hard to tell anymore. It's gonna be a long summer.

    Some lads are peaking way too early.


  • #3385
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    elefant wrote: »
    What good would reading a rule out have done for that? He had already served his suspension.

    He was analyst for a game, where an incident happened that was already in the centre of the media spotlight. You expected him to bring up a doping case where the punishment had, not only already been meted out, but actually fully served? Why? To somehow prove he's not forwarding some sort of Kerry agenda on the Sunday Game?

    In fairness I (or anyone else) would never expect Pat to bring up, a doping case in relation to a Kerry player. Be realistic.
    PARlance wrote: »
    Some lads are peaking way too early.

    Peak in August lads!


  • #3386
    Fr Tod Umptious
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    Ah there is. Those teams win All-Ireland's.

    Tyrone have the same amount of All Irelands as Mayo.

    A purple patch in the mid '00s, just like Mayo had in the early '50s.

    Let's wait a while before we start using them in the same context as Kerry and Dublin.


  • #3387
    BonnieSituation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »
    Tyrone have the same amount of All Irelands as Mayo.

    A purple patch in the mid 00s, just like Mayo had in the early '50s.

    Let's wait a while before we start using them in the same context as Kerry and Dublin.

    :rolleyes:

    Ah Jaysus Tod


  • #3388
    elefant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,679 ✭✭✭elefant


    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    In fairness I (or anyone else) would never expect Pat to bring up, a doping case in relation to a Kerry player. Be realistic.



    If he was asked about it I'm sure he'd talk about it. I don't think the issue was ever broached on The Sunday Game?

    They were specifically discussing the Dublin match, and having not seen the game myself, all I'd heard about it all day Sunday was Diarmuid Connolly potentially being in trouble.

    I can't believe we're still talking about this matter, but I can't see anything that Pat Spillane did wrong here.


  • #3389
    DDC1990
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    Stoner wrote:
    Anyway I'm not revisiting this.

    That's fine but don't expect people to give you a pass on your bull**** when you claim Spillane influenced the ban.

    It's bad enough that Gavin has resorted to that ****e to try and motivate the team without people actually genuinely believing it.


  • #3390
    keane2097
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    It really is hard to tell anymore. It's gonna be a long summer.

    Not for Mayo.


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  • #3391
    DoctaDee
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    elefant wrote: »
    What good would reading a rule out have done for that? He had already served his suspension.

    He was analyst for a game, where an incident happened that was already in the centre of the media spotlight. You expected him to bring up a doping case where the punishment had, not only already been meted out, but actually fully served? Why? To somehow prove he's not forwarding some sort of Kerry agenda on the Sunday Game?

    The point I was making was that both stories were relevant to the same week. If the Connolly incident hadn't happened would the O'Sullivan case have been a topic on TSG? The fact that the offence and ban had been punished and served doesn't take away from the relevance of the story


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