Toddler stabbed to death in Dublin

I haven't read the link and this will probably come across all wrong but sometimes when I hear something horrific has happened to a child I wonder what has been happening to them up to this point and the type of short little life they've actually endured.I'm far from a mother earth type but anyone who can inflict pain and suffering on a defenceless child be they man or woman should be treated in a very similar fashion imo.

A defenceless 3 year old. Mind numbing.

Thanks mods for the quick work there.

Omackeral wrote: »

How am I doing it for thanks though? I merely put forward an opinion and some people agreed with the sentiment. I subsequently referenced their agreement as validation for my point. What's pathetic about that exactly may I ask?

You are using the death of a child to score points.

Omackeral wrote: »

Get a grip. How exactly am I scoring points? Explain that to me. Disgusting accusation.

It's exactly what you're doing.
You're acting as though all killers of their family are acting from the same motives, when there are actually two very different groups, the ones that are genuinely insane, and those who want to punish the other partner.

Overall, more fathers kill than mothers, but the numbers killed by parents suffering mental illness is probably about the same. Those parents - male or female - hopefully get treatment rather than prison. And when a man kills his family due to severe mental illness that's take into account, as it should be. One near us in Carndonagh not long ago where the man killed his elderly parents with an axe. Wasn't found guilty of murder.

The difference is that more men kill their children without suffering from mental illness. Some women do too, but far fewer. Male or female, those people should get the book thrown at them, and they do.

But your assumption that the profiles of male and female killers are the same is wrong. That's why more mothers who kill their children are portrayed as mentally ill - because a higher proportion of them, in fact nearly all, of them are.

Omackeral wrote: »

I assure you, it's not.

And show me where I disagreed with that? I didn't dispute that. I said if it's a man he'll likely be described as evil and if it's a woman she'll likely be described as mentally ill. You're saying there's truth to that based off statistics. That's fine and I take you at your word there. All I did was say that's how saw it going yet people are getting themselves in a frenzy saying I'm points scoring and using a child's death to do so. Utter rubbish and a lack of simple comprehension regarding a point being made. Also, I said it was a horrific occurrence and so very sad but that didn't register because it doesn't fit in with winning internet points.

It's point scoring because you're presenting it as though people "described" men as evil (and let women off for the same actions). That could only be true if as many women as men killed their own children, so that the profiles of the killers was comparable.

People don't "describe" men as evil for something they would excuse women for, they describe people who kill their children as evil unless they are mentally ill and not responsible for their actions. That includes the vast majority of mothers who kill, and some of the fathers.

When you remove those who show signs of severe mental illness from the total, the vast majority who are left are men. So to use your own words, the majority of men who kill are evil, the majority of women who kill are mentally ill. That's not just people's assumptions though, that's a fact.

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