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    #212
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    It's part of the victim culture piled on top of people these days.

    If you're gay, nothing is ever your fault, it's those evil heterosexual people keeping you down.

    If you're a woman, nothing is ever your fault, it's that evil patriarchy and that wage gap keeping you down.

    If you're working class, it's those evil rich people keeping us down. No water charges! GIVE US A POUND JOE! Get Comrade Boyd Barrett on the phone.

    This is one of my fundamental disagreements with the alt-right. A lot of these group and racial conflicts come from the great Socialist power struggle of own group over another, pushed by the postmodern and neo marxist theory, leading to many a lad walking around with a massive chip on their shoulder. You're born in Ireland. A lot of flaws with the place but its a grand old spot all this considered.

    This typically comes from the arts and media in my opinion.

    You seem to have this all figured out. Go you!


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    #213
    Jesus Wept
    Registered Users Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Correlation ≠ causation

    https://thinkprogress.org/no-high-suicide-rates-do-not-demonstrate-that-transgender-people-are-mentally-ill-5074c09a5827


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    #214
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    There are three possible combinations.

    You're a man and you like wans.

    You're a man and you like man bum.

    You're a man and you like wans and man bum.

    That's it.

    Any of that cisgender I'm a gender fluid lumpy potato crap and I know I'm talking to a narcissistic tosspot who needs to get off the computer and realize there's a big blue world out there with so much to see and do.

    afdbef81a022ed38157068eda8984b28.gif

    Bit silly really. People who arent listed above identify as their orientation for a reason, as they feel it doesn't fit those three categories of straight gay or bi

    Its like lumping some different mental illnesses under one category because you dont(want to) try and understand the differences between them


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    #215
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Bit silly really. People who arent listed above identify as their orientation for a reason, as they feel it doesn't fit those three categories of straight gay or bi

    What else is there though, apart from maybe asexual?


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    #216
    Samaris
    Registered Users Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    pumpkin4life wrote: »
    It's part of the victim culture piled on top of people these days.

    If you're gay, nothing is ever your fault, it's those evil heterosexual people keeping you down.

    If you're a woman, nothing is ever your fault, it's that evil patriarchy and that wage gap keeping you down.

    If you're working class, it's those evil rich people keeping us down. No water charges! GIVE US A POUND JOE! Get Comrade Boyd Barrett on the phone.

    If you're a white man, nothing is ever your fault, it's the evil minorities being mean to you? :P


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    #217
    LadyMacBeth_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭LadyMacBeth_


    Ah now, I can understand someone saying that they are different but equal. I am married to a woman and I'm a woman, and I certainly don't feel persecuted in modern society, I have accepting friends and family and it has been very rare that someone has ever said anything negative to me about the fact that I am with a woman. However, I know I am different, most of the time I don't even think about it because it's pretty inconsequential, it's little things that remind me, like I was looking for a wedding anniversary card for my wife last week, most of them were about husbands and wives, as in ''a husband is like this and a wife is like this, haha'', and so it took me a little while to find one that was just about being married or just about the wife. Now did I go home and cry and feel persecuted? No, of course not, and I know it's because the majority of people are straight so of course cards are going to be aimed at husbands and wives, makes no sense to have a massive collection of gay women cards in tesco, I know that. But, I am also reminded that I'm different. Like I've said in a previous post, I'm left handed, so people assume that I'm right handed, doesn't bother me, sometimes tell people I'm left handed and then we get on with things, sure most scissors and tools are right handed, I don't feel persecuted by that either, because most people are right handed, but I know that I am different.


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    #218
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    But surely we are all different to the point of not being unique? We all have our quirks and crosses to bear. I am personally straight but struggle with a lot of trust issues and find it difficult to form relationships, I most likely have a form of OCD, I hate being asleep and I have a fear of cutting my own toenails. That doesn't mean I'm any different to other people? I understand where you're coming from lady Macbeth, however I think as humans we all have characteristics that make us unique but not so much "different?" If that makes sense.


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    #219
    LadyMacBeth_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭LadyMacBeth_


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    But surely we are all different to the point of not being unique? We all have our quirks and crosses to bear. I am personally straight but struggle with a lot of trust issues and find it difficult to form relationships, I most likely have a form of OCD, I hate being asleep and I have a fear of cutting my own toenails. That doesn't mean I'm any different to other people? I understand where you're coming from lady Macbeth, however I think as humans we all have characteristics that make us unique but not so much "different?" If that makes sense.

    Ah I know what you mean, of course we all have things quirks or little things about us to make us who we are. Sure I've got CF myself and sometimes that makes me feel a bit different too. Of course we're all people, and in many ways we are the same, but I think it's ok to say that we are different in some ways too. Not to feel persecuted or anything, just to acknowledge it.


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    #220
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Fair enough, I suppose in the grand scheme of things, we are all getting up to go to work to pay for our lives, homes, family, etc. We all have worries, secrets, hopes, dreams and feelings. We all just do our best to have a good and decent life. Does it really matter if you find your happy place with someone of the same sex, or if you have webbed toes, or a crooked eye or don't want kids or suffer with depression or have a bit of a temper? We all have crosses to bear and life to deal with. We all have ups and downs but people who love and support us no matter who we are or what we do. I suppose if you look at it we are all very very different or we're all the same at the end of the day.

    Being gay doesn't make someone stand out unless they want to stand out no more than suffering from anxietydoesnt make someone stand out unless they want to.

    Life will ride you every chance it gets so why set out trying to make life harder for yourself by looking for things to be offended about (not you lady Mcb). Tantrums and being a constant victim won't get you anywhere positive in life whether you're gay straight or nothing at all.


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    #221
    HalloweenJack
    Registered Users Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    I understand it as people from roughly the same group (non-standard sexualities and gender identities) grouping together to make their voices heard.

    It started with LGB then they reached out to T to help them in their struggle for attention, then to Q and so on. I imagine they group together because that way they can make more noise and get more attention.

    I don't understand why someone would get so worked up over a bunch of letters, especially if they have nothing to do with you whatsoever.


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    #222
    gizmo81
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Fair enough, I suppose in the grand scheme of things, we are all getting up to go to work to pay for our lives, homes, family, etc. We all have worries, secrets, hopes, dreams and feelings. We all just do our best to have a good and decent life. Does it really matter if you find your happy place with someone of the same sex, or if you have webbed toes, or a crooked eye or don't want kids or suffer with depression or have a bit of a temper? We all have crosses to bear and life to deal with. We all have ups and downs but people who love and support us no matter who we are or what we do. I suppose if you look at it we are all very very different or we're all the same at the end of the day.

    Being gay doesn't make someone stand out unless they want to stand out no more than suffering from anxietydoesnt make someone stand out unless they want to.

    Life will ride you every chance it gets so why set out trying to make life harder for yourself by looking for things to be offended about (not you lady Mcb). Tantrums and being a constant victim won't get you anywhere positive in life whether you're gay straight or nothing at all.

    You have no idea how oppression works.

    Secondly, are you insinuating that people with anxiety are 'attention seeking' for talking about their problems, for reaching out for help?


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    #223
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    Listen gizmo, I've no interest in fanning the flames to your victim complex. If you have an issue with something everyone else says then chances are the problem is you and not them. You're going on ignore now because it's Monday morning and I'm persecuted enough without giving you your jollies too


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    #224
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    I dunno about you OP but my favorites were aleays QUILTBAG and FABGLITTER, and that's going back what must be about 20 odd years I've been aware of those terms :pac:

    I had to look up what these mean - what the hell are allies?
    And is it just me or does quiltbag just sound filthy?

    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    It's all greek to me

    Sure it was those greeks who invented gayness father:D
    gizmo81 wrote: »
    You have no idea how oppression works.

    Secondly, are you insinuating that people with anxiety are 'attention seeking' for talking about their problems, for reaching out for help?

    Listen to any fanatical feminist and they'll tell you that the lovely lexie has in fact been oppressed her whole life.....beware the patriarchy!

    That kinda proves her point in fact - she just got on with things, she didn't sit around all triggered and moping about how hard she had it. We all have it hard, people should really look out for themselves and stop expecting the world at large to give a rats arse about their every little issue!


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    #225
    Yourself isit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    You have no idea how oppression works.

    Secondly, are you insinuating that people with anxiety are 'attention seeking' for talking about their problems, for reaching out for help?

    Neither of you are oppressed. That's a slur on the oppressed living in dictatorships or war zones.

    Although Lexie does have laws limiting bodily autonomy. Not sure what your issue is.


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    #226
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod-SterlingArcher's thread ban is lifted. I also apologise for calling him/her a dick.


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    #227
    gizmo81
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Fair enough, I suppose in the grand scheme of things, we are all getting up to go to work to pay for our lives, homes, family, etc. We all have worries, secrets, hopes, dreams and feelings. We all just do our best to have a good and decent life. Does it really matter if you find your happy place with someone of the same sex, or if you have webbed toes, or a crooked eye or don't want kids or suffer with depression or have a bit of a temper? We all have crosses to bear and life to deal with. We all have ups and downs but people who love and support us no matter who we are or what we do. I suppose if you look at it we are all very very different or we're all the same at the end of the day.

    Being gay doesn't make someone stand out unless they want to stand out no more than suffering from anxietydoesnt make someone stand out unless they want to.

    Life will ride you every chance it gets so why set out trying to make life harder for yourself by looking for things to be offended about (not you lady Mcb). Tantrums and being a constant victim won't get you anywhere positive in life whether you're gay straight or nothing at all.

    This is not a definition of oppression.

    Oppression doesn't just exist in War Zones.

    I made no assumptions to the gender or sex of Lexie.


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    #228
    Yourself isit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    This is not a definition of oppression.

    Oppression doesn't just exist in War Zones.

    I made no assumptions to the gender or sex of Lexie.

    Yeah it does. You are not oppressed. You are gay in a gay friendly country. You can get married. No laws oppress you


    There are people in war zones who are held as sex slaves and whose entire cultures are being eliminated. They are oppressed. You are not.


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    #229
    SterlingArcher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,767 ✭✭✭SterlingArcher


    Conspectus wrote: »
    Mod-SterlingArcher's thread ban is lifted. I also apologise for calling him/her a dick.

    After Conspectus grovelling apology I'd just like to say....Haha I kid. Takes real character to admit wrongs.

    I know it's a thankless job doing mod and on here sometimes and it ain't easy.

    Sorry for calling you a stupid dick. And thanks for being reasonable.


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    #230
    gizmo81
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    Yourself isit wrote: »
    Yeah it does. You are not oppressed. You are gay in a gay friendly country. You can get married. No laws oppress you


    There are people in war zones who are held as sex slaves and whose entire cultures are being eliminated. They are oppressed. You are not.

    What post did I say I was oppressed?


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    #231
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,247 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Why are people so concerned with an acronym that other people apply to their community? These threads always seem to be started by those outside that community. It is weirdly obsessive.


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    #232
    gizmo81
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Why are people so concerned with an acronym that other people apply to their community? These threads always seem to be started by those outside that community. It is weirdly obsessive.

    "the gay community want to commander the whole alphabet"

    Some posters believe 'the gays' are trying to rob the alphabet! Which we have no right to use the alphabet without straight peoples approval first!


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    #233
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,247 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    "the gay community want to commander the whole alphabet"

    Some posters believe 'the gays' are trying to rob the alphabet! Which we have no right to use the alphabet without straight peoples approval first!


    LOL.


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    #234
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    "the gay community want to commander the whole alphabet"

    ONE poster believe 'the gays' are trying to rob the alphabet! Which we have no right to use the alphabet without straight peoples approval first!

    FYP, just because one person says it doesnt mean its the view of everybody.


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    #235
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    gizmo81 wrote: »
    Some posters believe 'the gays' are trying to rob the alphabet!

    I bet they'll take the D first:D


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    #236
    Winterlong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Trying to write a sentence without using any of the letters LGBTQIA is bloody difficult.


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    #237
    inforfun
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    Winterlong wrote: »
    Trying to write a sentence without using any of the letters LGBTQIA is bloody difficult.

    You ll need one of those for that:

    http://i.imgur.com/l7YAqJy.jpg


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    #238
    RollieFingers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,635 ✭✭✭RollieFingers


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    What's bizarre is the need to constantly feel like you're a victim. You're not. You like men, so do I. You like anal, I might if I ever tried it.
    You're not different. You're not special. Nobody cafes who you're banging. Unless it's someone's husband cause then someone might care but day to day, it's nothing.

    How do you know he likes anal just because he's gay? Many gay men don't enjoy anal.
    Such a generalisation coming from a poster who suggested Muslims should be "locked up and force fed pork" isn't really surprising I suppose!


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    #239
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    RollieFingers wrote: »
    How do you know he likes anal just because he's gay? Many gay men don't enjoy anal.
    Such a generalisation coming from a poster who suggested Muslims should be "locked up and force fed pork" isn't really surprising I suppose!
    considering you can quote 6 week old posts word for word it's an awful shame you had to fabricate a part of it to suit your own agenda.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=103595296&postcount=1134

    There's the post in all its glory discussing terrorists, not Muslims. Derail the thread with that.


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    #240
    [Deleted User]
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    LOL.

    Nope sorry the "lady on lady" community own that one too now.


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    #241
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    What's with the Q? Isn't that covered by the first two letters.

    Why include the slur? Is it it about taking ownership of the word like black people did with the N word?


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