Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

MaroonAndGreen · 09-07-2017 07:00PM

Galway Galway Galway. What can I say? They were absolutely gutless. Gave up. Threw in the towel in the last 10-15 minutes even with the wind they had. That team has showed they have no resilience, when the going got tough last year versus Tipp, they crumbled and gave in to a hammering, just did the same thing again today. I'm sorry but a team with that mentality will win nothing. We can't talk about winning All-Ireland's in Mayo but be proud that our lads will play and fight to the death to the final whistle no matter what the circumstances.

Galway? Whenever this Galway team has ever gone 5-6 points behind they've thrown in the towel. As I said earlier. Gutless. Makes you appreciate what we have in Mayo even more. I felt sorry for my Galway friends watching that last ten minutes when it was clear Galway had given up.

I wouldn't write them off against Donegal, but they'l need to start well because if they go a few points down they'l give up. Gutless.

Cosmo Kramer · 09-07-2017 07:19PM

Very enjoyable seeing the same Galway knobs that were on here having a dig at us earlier in the week back on the Galway thread turning on their own players and management this evening.

PressRun · 09-07-2017 07:40PM

I'd also like to add that there is still a discipline issue within the Mayo team that needs to be cleared up. Two straight red cards in two games and then yesterday Brendan Harrison was very lucky indeed to get away without a red and for not seriously injuring the Clare player. That sort of messing needs to be cut out asap.

MaroonAndGreen · 09-07-2017 08:08PM

Damien Comer showed his true colours today too. Very lucky he got a second yellow and not a straight red. He's a thuggish player with little skill and a big temper, and when the pressure came on and his team needed him to kick points with a strong breeze he wasn't able. Shane Walsh carried him. Damien Comer = over rated.

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:13PM

I honestly think Comer is a tremendous player

yop · 09-07-2017 08:13PM

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Damien Comer showed his true colours today too. Very lucky he got a second yellow and not a straight red. He's a thuggish player with little skill and a big temper, and when the pressure came on and his team needed him to kick points with a strong breeze he wasn't able. Shane Walsh carried him. Damien Comer = over rated.

Very much so. Head matches his temperment. Walsh is a top class forward, he has carried that team, one man forward line and all that.

Wonder will the "Enjoy the Backdoor" sign in Headford be still up in the morning when I'm passing, I'm guessing now.
We made them look good, now after today people can see how poor they are. 8 wides in the 1st half and it should have been another 6 or 7 points.

Rossies look really fit and eager. They have some fine players, can see them been a major pain in the ass for who ever gets them.

On last night, we won. Again another jeckle and hyde. AOS carried us, COC was hit and miss. But for 20 minutes in the 2nd half we were pretty crap.
Thought Coen had a good game when he came on. Keegan was poor as I have seen.
Lots to work on, but we are still in the championship. All confidence building and all good fitness work.
Discipline is an issue, full back is a disaster.

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:14PM

PressRun wrote: »

I'd also like to add that there is still a discipline issue within the Mayo team that needs to be cleared up. Two straight red cards in two games and then yesterday Brendan Harrison was very lucky indeed to get away without a red and for not seriously injuring the Clare player. That sort of messing needs to be cut out asap.

Yeah was it last year where boyle or vaughan was actually going to miss the final if booked against tipp as a result of accumulated cards throughout the year

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:16PM

yop wrote: »

Rossies look really fit and eager. They have some fine players, can see them been a major pain in the ass for who ever gets them.

Don't fully agree if I'm honest galway really should have blown them away second half but completely bottled it

Thought Ros were determined but very limited

MaroonAndGreen · 09-07-2017 08:20PM

jr86 wrote: »

I honestly think Comer is a tremendous player

He's a tremendous ball winner, he's tremendously strong but technically he is poor. He has a thuggish mentality, similar to Diarmuid Connolly, obviously without the skill set of Connolly. I don't rate Comer too highly, he's effective yeah, but he's not exceptional by any means. Shane Walsh is in a different realm to Comer. Comer seems to have an ego about him too, it's egos like his that lead to Galway crumbling in games like today when they go behind. Maybe his disgraceful behaviour at the end of the game is tainting my view on him slightly.

km79 · 09-07-2017 08:22PM

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

He's a tremendous ball winner, he's tremendously strong but technically he is poor. He has a thuggish mentality, similar to Diarmuid Connolly, obviously without the skill set of Connolly. I don't rate Comer too highly, he's effective yeah, but he's not exceptional by any means. Shane Walsh is in a different realm to Comer. Comer seems to have an ego about him too, it's egos like his that lead to Galway crumbling in games like today when they go behind. Maybe his disgraceful behaviour at the end of the game is tainting my view on him slightly.

And we don't like "egos" in these here parts ya hear !!!!

I agree he is a limited player and I don't particularly like him tbh
I also think his hit on diarmuid was dirty and illegal but was lauded by many

Fr Tod Umptious · 09-07-2017 08:23PM

casscass4444 wrote: »

Not being smart but if you're ranking Mayo in the top 3 teams in the country who are you ranking at numbers 2 and 1.are Galway in there considering they beat Mayo 2 years in a row both home and away.
I wish Mayo well today but they will have to step up a lot since the Derry game and I wouldn't be too fast writing off Clare playing at home.to be fair Mayo were lucky to come out on top against an average Derry team whose keeper was beyond suspect with butterfingers moments and a disastrous kick out strategy.overall should be an interesting weekend in football

Sorry for quoting someone on many people's ignore list but I could not resist.

No, Galway are not in the top two, actually they would be lucky to be in the top 10.

Gutless as another poster called them.

Eyes Down Field · 09-07-2017 08:25PM

So if Mayo beat Cork. They play either Roscommon or Kerry in the 1/4 final.

I presume Mayo would prefer to be drawn against Roscommon, but after today, I don't think many teams will be crazy about meeting this Roscommon side after what did to Galway today.

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:25PM

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

He's a tremendous ball winner, he's tremendously strong but technically he is poor. He has a thuggish mentality, similar to Diarmuid Connolly, obviously without the skill set of Connolly. I don't rate Comer too highly, he's effective yeah, but he's not exceptional by any means. Shane Walsh is in a different realm to Comer. Comer seems to have an ego about him too, it's egos like his that lead to Galway crumbling in games like today when they go behind. Maybe his disgraceful behaviour at the end of the game is tainting my view on him slightly.

He's not the most graceful but to be fair he's well able to kick off both feet and gets a good return every game. Super hands too

It won't be a popular opinion but I think he's better than anything we have up front tbh

That said I cheered quite loudly seeing him sent off today

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:26PM

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

So if Mayo beat Cork. They play either Roscommon or Kerry in the 1/4 final.

I presume Mayo would prefer to be drawn against Roscommon, but after today, I don't think many teams will be crazy about meeting this Roscommon side after what did to Galway today.

The time to play Kerry is the quarters. Completely untested and a lengthy enough layoff

km79 · 09-07-2017 08:26PM

jr86 wrote: »

He's not the most graceful but to be fair he's well able to kick off both feet and gets a good return every game. Super hands too

It won't be a popular opinion but I think he's better than anything we have up front tbh

That said I cheered quite loudly seeing him sent off today

Better than cillian ? Get out of it
He is similar to Andy alright but Andy is more graceful to say the least

jam83 · 09-07-2017 08:27PM

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Damien Comer showed his true colours today too. Very lucky he got a second yellow and not a straight red. He's a thuggish player with little skill and a big temper, and when the pressure came on and his team needed him to kick points with a strong breeze he wasn't able. Shane Walsh carried him. Damien Comer = over rated.

How is comer overrated? He showed
for an awful lot of ball today and kicked 2 from play. Being an outlet for ball helped set up a few other scores today.
Did an awful lot of damage in the mayo game too, between 2 from play and being fouled for a few more.
He's both a target man and able to score so I don't see how he's overrated unless everyone's saying he's the best in ireland, which they aren't.
What's this thuggish thing based on, aside from today?

km79 · 09-07-2017 08:27PM

jr86 wrote: »

The time to play Kerry is the quarters. Completely untested and a lengthy enough layoff

I had myself convinced of this last night too BUT who is to say that if donegal come through they won't take them out for us

MaroonAndGreen · 09-07-2017 08:30PM

jr86 wrote: »

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

He's a tremendous ball winner, he's tremendously strong but technically he is poor. He has a thuggish mentality, similar to Diarmuid Connolly, obviously without the skill set of Connolly. I don't rate Comer too highly, he's effective yeah, but he's not exceptional by any means. Shane Walsh is in a different realm to Comer. Comer seems to have an ego about him too, it's egos like his that lead to Galway crumbling in games like today when they go behind. Maybe his disgraceful behaviour at the end of the game is tainting my view on him slightly.

He's not the most graceful but to be fair he's well able to kick off both feet and gets a good return every game. Super hands too

It won't be a popular opinion but I think he's better than anything we have up front tbh

That said I cheered quite loudly seeing him sent off today

He could only kick one point with one of the strongest winds I've seen in a long time behind him. Also facing a rookie full back line basically. He let Galway down terribly today anyway.

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:30PM

km79 wrote: »

Better than cillian ? Get out of it
He is similar to Andy alright but Andy is more graceful to say the least

Cillian has been way off form all year.

Comer is miles more effective on current form

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:31PM

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

He could only kick one point with one of the strongest winds I've seen in a long time behind him. Also facing a rookie full back line basically. He let Galway down terribly today anyway.

I think that's harsh. He was definitely one of the better players. His antics are clouding your judgment I think

He was a colossus against ourselves

Fr Tod Umptious · 09-07-2017 08:32PM

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

So if Mayo beat Cork. They play either Roscommon or Kerry in the 1/4 final.

I presume Mayo would prefer to be drawn against Roscommon, but after today, I don't think many teams will be crazy about meeting this Roscommon side after what did to Galway today.

No I'd prefer to be drawn against Kerry.

Likely to have to play them anyway so better to get them after a months break and two fairly straightforward wins over much weaker opposition.

Monaghan nearly caught them in 2007 and Down certainly did in 2010.

km79 · 09-07-2017 08:34PM

jr86 wrote: »

Cillian has been way off form all year.

Comer is miles more effective on current form

You know points from frees count too?
So you are saying all Ireland final day comes you want comer in ahead of Cillian

Completely disagree

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:36PM

km79 wrote: »

You know points from frees count too?
So you are saying all Ireland final day comes you want comer in ahead of Cillian

Completely disagree

I'm not sure your point about the frees? I wasn't talking about the higher scorer

In open play which is what we should judge on considering comer doesn't take the frees (superb at 45s though) comer has been comfortably ahead of cillian this season

MaroonAndGreen · 09-07-2017 08:41PM

jr86 wrote: »

km79 wrote: »

You know points from frees count too?
So you are saying all Ireland final day comes you want comer in ahead of Cillian

Completely disagree

I'm not sure your point about the frees? I wasn't talking about the higher scorer

In open play which is what we should judge on considering comer doesn't take the frees (superb at 45s though) comer has been comfortably ahead of cillian this season

It's not Cillian's fault he can take frees and Comer can't. It's not an easy skill. It deserves to be considered and it absolutely puts him as a more valuable player to a team than Comer.

km79 · 09-07-2017 08:41PM

jr86 wrote: »

I'm not sure your point about the frees? I wasn't talking about the higher scorer

In open play which is what we should judge on considering comer doesn't take the frees (superb at 45s though) comer has been comfortably ahead of cillian this season

You said he is better than everything we have up front
I disagreed as I think Cillian is better as he has proved year in year out at the highest level every summer
An important part of what Cillian brings is free taking which is why I said that
Cillian sets up a lot of scores for other players too
Even when not playing well.......I believe he set up one goal yday and the all important goal for loftus last week too

It's not even close imo
Has comer even played against the Dublin's Kerry's and Tyrones ? No
I judge Cillian against the best cos that's what he is up against every august and September and he generally delivers

Comer got 2 points today and then got sent off
Great stuff out of him when the chips were down

seligehgit · 09-07-2017 08:44PM

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Damien Comer showed his true colours today too. Very lucky he got a second yellow and not a straight red. He's a thuggish player with little skill and a big temper, and when the pressure came on and his team needed him to kick points with a strong breeze he wasn't able. Shane Walsh carried him. Damien Comer = over rated.

It was a definite straight red without a doubt,he's a tremendous footballer but he's got a nasty streak.Bizarre all the calls for Kevin Walsh to go.They are still in the championship with a massive game against Donegal who themselves are rebuilding.Blame all on the manager!Yes there were failings on the sideline with regard to the goalkeeper and the back line but the players on the pitch carry a significant amount of the responsibility for the defeat today.

No disrespect to Roscommon but it appears that Galway believed they only had to turn up today to collect the Nestor Cup,complacency and overconfidence can be a fatal combination.

PressRun · 09-07-2017 08:44PM

I don't know why people give out about the free taking as if it's so easy. It's not an exact science and it takes a lot of practice to perfect. Cillian has been a bit hit and miss this year, but a team without a solid free taker is going nowhere.

jr86 · 09-07-2017 08:47PM

To be fair he's hardly needed for frees when Shane Walsh is normally very accurate and Armstrong when he's playing

Anyhow il leave my opinion there it was never going to be well received in a mayo thread but I stand by it.

jam83 · 09-07-2017 08:48PM

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

Very enjoyable seeing the same Galway knobs that were on here having a dig at us earlier in the week back on the Galway thread turning on their own players and management this evening.

It happened here on this forum too after galway beat Mayo so there shouldn't be a holier than thou attitude to how supporters react to losing! Rochford was getting some stick here that time.

km79 · 09-07-2017 08:49PM

jr86 wrote: »

To be fair he's hardly needed for frees when Shane Walsh is normally very accurate and Armstrong when he's playing

Anyhow il leave my opinion there it was never going to be well received in a mayo thread but I stand by it.

For what it's worth I'd have Diarmuid ahead of him too
And Andy of 2 years ago

Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

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