All Ireland Senior Football Championships 2017 - Read Mod Note Post #1

raiders11 wrote: »

Will the draw for other side of qualifiers be fixed tomorrow, Monaghan v Armagh and Carlow v Tipp.

If Monaghan and Armagh are kept apart and win their respective games, Down will be more than likely be one of their next opponents in next round, Down have met both so will they avoid that problem and pair them together tomorrow?

Would actually love to see a Monaghan v Tipp game in Thurles. Would tell us a lot about where both teams are

ArnoldJRimmer wrote: »

Would actually love to see a Monaghan v Tipp game in Thurles. Would tell us a lot about where both teams are

Well, they'd both be in Thurles, obviously

Patww79 wrote: »

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They didn't. They showed a one second slo mo of the captain lifting the cup...there was no presentation, no speech, no post game reaction from the players and managers etc etc. People in Roscommon/Connaught are just as entitled to see all that, as the hurling crowd are.

I've no time for this "my sport is better than your sport" snobbery. On the day of a provincial final, RTE should not be scheduling the second game so close to the first, if they can't give both games fair dues...especially as there was still 20 minutes to go to throw in of the Cork/Clare game, when they cut away from Salthill. It's not as if there was extra time in Salthill, and they had to cut away from it, to go to a game already in progress.

ProudDUB wrote: »

They didn't. They showed a one second slo mo of the captain lifting the cup...there was no presentation, no speech, no post game reaction from the players and managers etc etc. People in Roscommon/Connaught are just as entitled to see all that, as the hurling crowd are.

I've no time for this "my sport is better than your sport" snobbery. On the day of a provincial final, RTE should not be scheduling the second game so close to the first, if they can't give both games fair dues...especially as there was still 20 minutes to go to throw in of the Cork/Clare game, when they cut away from Salthill. It's not as if there was extra time in Salthill, and they had to cut away from it, to go to a game already in progress.

There are also the ads and that rip off to enter competition,also there had already been a discussion about the hurling at the start of the Sunday Game before the build up Galway v Roscommon

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Patww79 wrote: »

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I want each game to be treated equally. Both codes should have their post game trophy presentations covered equally. Is that too much too much to ask? If want to do loads of build up to the hurling fine, but not at the expense of the code that was on before. I'd be saying that, regardless of what code was on before.

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Eh, Roscommon only reach the Quarter Finals after winning that.............

Munster Final is a far more significant event on the sporting calender than a Connaught final . It is almost a cultural event for many. I genuinely can't believe anyone outside of the counties involved, even the most ardent of football fans wouldn't accept that.

And progress wise in their respective Championships, winning a Leinster or Munster hurling final is far more significant than winning a provincial final in football also.

How is it more significant? I don't agree with that at all. That's is such sh&t and I'm sure most of the people on here will agree with that.

Ompala wrote: »

Lads how does the draw work for the next round of the qualifiers?
Specifically if anyone can explain to me who Tipp can play next

Tipp can face any of Armagh, Carlow or Monaghan in an open draw in round 3, with the first side out playing at home.

For the following round, the below applies with Tipp on the same side of the draw as the Ulster and Leinster losers

'In the fourth round of the qualifiers, the four winning teams from round 3 play the four beaten provincial finalists. Round 4 draw rules do not allow two teams that have played each other in a provincial match to meet again if such a pairing can be avoided. The four winners of these matches play the provincial champions in the All-Ireland quarter-finals.'

Ompala wrote: »

Lads how does the draw work for the next round of the qualifiers?
Specifically if anyone can explain to me who Tipp can play next

Open draw to play Armagh, Carlow or Monaghan in next round.
Win that and play either Ulster or Leinster runnerup in Last 12.
Win that and play quarter final against Ulster or Leinster winner.

happyoutscan wrote: »

You know nothing really.

You alright there pet ?

Deleted User wrote: »

Its probably the most competitve province after Ulster, anyone of three teams can win it any year.

Which says more about the any one of thems inability to stick two wins together than the quality of the football. Roscommon only managed to win one match in the league this year. The lack of consistency might make it "competitive". Nothing else.

Patww79 wrote: »

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And what about the people who aren't even there, who are watching it on the telly....the people who RTE are supposed to be catering to, no?

There doesn't even need to be any conflict between the codes here. Start the entire broadcast earlier. Get all the build ups and previews and cheesy, misty eyed Marty Morrissey videos out of the way, before either game starts. Start the second game 15 minutes later, so as to give the first game and post game hoopla fair coverage. Then switch to the second game and rinse and repeat. It's hardly rocket science.

Patww79 wrote: »

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And what about the people who aren't there, who are watching it on the telly....the people who RTE are supposed to be catering to, by broadcasting it live in the first place. Do they not matter?

There doesn't even need to be any conflict between the codes here. Start the entire broadcast earlier. The All Ireland final broadcast doesn't start a mere 40 minutes before throw in. Why should this one, when it features two provincial finals? So start it earlier. Get all the build ups and previews and cheesy, misty eyed Marty Morrissey videos out of the way, before either game starts. Start the second game 15 minutes later, so as to give the first game and post game hoopla fair coverage. Then switch to the second game and rinse and repeat. It's hardly rocket science.

Like it or not, the Munster Hurling Final is steeped in lore and nostalgia with a fierce modern edge to this day, something that no provincial football final can rival bar a hugely competitive renewal of an old rivalry eg Dublin v Meath, Kerry v Cork, Galway v Mayo. Other than that, the Munster Hurling Final will always be held in higher regard overall than the Connacht Final, for example. There is more riding on the Munster Hurling Final too, where the winner will be just 140 minutes away from the All Ireland title, with the loser having one last chance at redemption. With provincial football finals, they don't carry the same weight as the season is longer (with teams like Kerry having a huge break), the winners are still three matches away from an All Ireland title and the loser still has a fair chance at making it to the same stage with some ease depending on opponents.

thelad95 wrote: »

Who are the Rossies potential opponents in the QF's?

Mayo donegal or cork

SecretsOfEarth wrote: »

Like it or not, the Munster Hurling Final is steeped in lore and nostalgia with a fierce modern edge to this day, something that no provincial football final can rival bar a hugely competitive renewal of an old rivalry eg Dublin v Meath, Kerry v Cork, Galway v Mayo. Other than that, the Munster Hurling Final will always be held in higher regard overall than the Connacht Final, for example. There is more riding on the Munster Hurling Final too, where the winner will be just 140 minutes away from the All Ireland title, with the loser having one last chance at redemption. With provincial football finals, they don't carry the same weight as the season is longer (with teams like Kerry having a huge break), the winners are still three matches away from an All Ireland title and the loser still has a fair chance at making it to the same stage with some ease depending on opponents.

Matter of opinion, and given that only 12 or so teams play in the McCarthy, its not more significant than a quarter final in football

Anyway, the Ulster final trumps them all for me (runs for cover)