Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/

All Ireland SHC Final (formerly SHC thread) - READ MOD NOTE POST #1

1…3132343637…119

Comments

  • #992
    C__MC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭C__MC


    windy shepard henderson wrote: »
    to be fair wexford and dublin at 21s level have been the top dogs for the last few years , kilkenny have a few minor teams coming through and what looks like a deacent 21s team this year

    brought very little through in the last few years and lost some exceptional players in the process it was bound to happen at some stage ,no fear they will be back

    I expected the Kilkenny demise to come after 2014, not sure how they made back to back finals winning one. What I didn't expect was how the basic skills of the game from them became so bad. When you compare their speed of thought, fitness, touch, mobility and striking to that of cork Tipp Galway Clare etc, it's actually terrible for such a proud county. I expect lean times ahead for them, and I don't think Cody is the right man to rejuvenate kk hurling either. Some of his calls in the last year have been strange to say the least.

    A Galway Tipp final if they stay apart in the draw


  • #993
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,899 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Things have moved on since Codys heady days- not least of all the other teams have improved immensely and kilkenny have regressed. Don't think there'll be any pressure on him to go per se, but there will be pressure to improve things...a lot. If that doesn't happen discontent will grow.


  • #994
    KevIRL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,489 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    average_runner wrote: »
    Only problem for Kilkenny, is they haven't won a u21 leinster title in 5 years.

    Except for the one they won on Wed night.


  • #995
    jelutong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭jelutong


    C__MC wrote: »
    I expected the Kilkenny demise to come after 2014, not sure how they made back to back finals winning one. What I didn't expect was how the basic skills of the game from them became so bad. When you compare their speed of thought, fitness, touch, mobility and striking to that of cork Tipp Galway Clare etc, it's actually terrible for such a proud county. I expect lean times ahead for them, and I don't think Cody is the right man to rejuvenate kk hurling either. Some of his calls in the last year have been strange to say the least.

    A Galway Tipp final if they stay apart in the draw

    Hard to disagree with any of the above. The hurlers just aren't there at present.


  • #996
    average_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,895 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Except for the one they won on Wed night.

    In France so didn't know. What was the score?


  • Advertisement
  • #997
    dastardly00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,615 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    average_runner wrote: »
    In France so didn't know. What was the score?

    0-30 to 1-14


  • #998
    Right2Write
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,356 ✭✭✭Right2Write


    gilberto_eire wrote: »
    Codys tenure has been similar to Alex Ferguson.

    A longevity of unparalleled success.

    The difference now is that Alex retired at the exact time it was going to unravel.

    You could see this coming a few years ago so it's not as if he couldn't have known.

    Exactly, Cody has done a fantastic job for KK hurling over the years. He must be an utterly dedicated to it, his life. But he hasn't seen the wood for the trees and has hung on too long. What do they say about political careers and their ending?


  • #999
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    jr86 wrote: »
    I can't get over how bad kk were this year. How they made an AI final less than a year ago? Amazing

    Says more about the other teams than it does about Kilkenny.
    Ask an even better question, how did they come from 7 down last night and also get a shot on goal to win it (which went wide)
    A question I would ask is why the media's lovechild Gleeson went completely missing when the real heat came on.


  • #1000
    mountgomery burns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    washman3 wrote: »
    Says more about the other teams than it does about Kilkenny.
    Ask an even better question, how did they come from 7 down last night and also get a shot on goal to win it (which went wide)
    A question I would ask is why the media's lovechild Gleeson went completely missing when the real heat came on.

    He was the top scorer from play in Normal time, and was out on his feet but still back putting in the hits. Disappeared...

    People love to cut the back of the best players, but he was magnificent last night.


  • #1001
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    washman3 wrote: »
    Says more about the other teams than it does about Kilkenny.
    Ask an even better question, how did they come from 7 down last night and also get a shot on goal to win it (which went wide)
    A question I would ask is why the media's lovechild Gleeson went completely missing when the real heat came on.

    Love child is a bit harsh. They pointed out a few times how he went so out quiet in extra time so they did criticise him in fairness.


  • Advertisement
  • #1002
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • #1003
    Motivator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,794 ✭✭✭Motivator


    washman3 wrote: »
    Says more about the other teams than it does about Kilkenny.
    Ask an even better question, how did they come from 7 down last night and also get a shot on goal to win it (which went wide)
    A question I would ask is why the media's lovechild Gleeson went completely missing when the real heat came on.

    Lovechild? Easy knowing you're from a small county with a comment like that. A 21 year old hurler of the year is likely to get some media attention. Also, it's easy knowing you weren't at the game last night because those who were there will appreciate how much work Austin Gleeson put in - he was outstanding.


  • #1004
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    He was the top scorer from play in Normal time, and was out on his feet but still back putting in the hits. Disappeared...

    People love to cut the back of the best players, but he was magnificent last night.

    Without doubt he is a brilliant player, nobody can argue that. But needs to stand up when it matters most.
    As a neutral looking in, a lot of the time he puts himself ahead of the team.
    At this stage All-Stars are useless to Waterford, All-Irelands are what its about.


  • #1005
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭blackcard


    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    washman3 wrote: »
    Says more about the other teams than it does about Kilkenny.
    Ask an even better question, how did they come from 7 down last night and also get a shot on goal to win it (which went wide)
    A question I would ask is why the media's lovechild Gleeson went completely missing when the real heat came on.

    He was the top scorer from play in Normal time, and was out on his feet but still back putting in the hits. Disappeared...

    People love to cut the back of the best players, but he was magnificent last night.
    Was he not replaced by Dan Shanahan in extra time?


  • #1006
    blackcard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭blackcard


    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    washman3 wrote: »
    Says more about the other teams than it does about Kilkenny.
    Ask an even better question, how did they come from 7 down last night and also get a shot on goal to win it (which went wide)
    A question I would ask is why the media's lovechild Gleeson went completely missing when the real heat came on.

    He was the top scorer from play in Normal time, and was out on his feet but still back putting in the hits. Disappeared...

    People love to cut the back of the best players, but he was magnificent last night.
    Was he not replaced by Dan Shanahan in extra time?


  • #1007
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,094 ✭✭✭threeball


    washman3 wrote: »
    Without doubt he is a brilliant player, nobody can argue that. But needs to stand up when it matters most.
    As a neutral looking in, a lot of the time he puts himself ahead of the team.
    At this stage All-Stars are useless to Waterford, All-Irelands are what its about.

    If Gleeson was given that last free instead of shanahan I don't even think there would have been extra time and there would be no place to criticise him as he was immense in the 70 mins


  • #1008
    nice_guy80
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    dastardly00 wrote: »
    average_runner wrote: »
    In France so didn't know. What was the score?

    0-30 to 1-14
    Westmeath gave them their hardest game
    and beat the KK U21s last year
    are Westmeath that good? or the standard of U21 teams has regressed a bit?


  • #1009
    2forjoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 464 ✭✭2forjoy


    Cork and Galway final with Cork winning outright.


  • #1010
    redlead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭redlead


    2forjoy wrote: »
    Cork and Galway final with Cork winning outright.

    The only team I think will definitely be in the final is Tipp. They have the best starting 15 and best squad and are hitting form at the right time. There is nothing between the rest of the teams bar Wexford so you just couldn't pick. I'd probably be surprised to see Clare there I suppose.

    Cork aren't being given enough credit for beating two title contenders already. I can't get my head around why Galway are being put on a pedestal over Cork. Galway haven't played a big team yet and were actually rubbish in the league the final aside.


  • #1011
    washman3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    blackcard wrote: »
    Was he not replaced by Dan Shanahan in extra time?

    No, they couldn't get Dan's baseball cap off, so they put on Maurice instead..:D:D


  • Advertisement
  • #1012
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,832 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    I was Informed on the Waterford board that possibly the QFs will be broken up into 2 different days if Cork are involved. So prob Sat 22nd and Sunday 23rd July

    That's bollox and should always be a double header, tough **** if you can't get tickets. I have u2 on the Saturday in Croke Park and don't want Waterford to be playing there QF that day and end up missing it


  • #1013
    mountgomery burns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    I think if the demand is there they should not be double headers, and the demand could well be there this year.

    Great to see the amount of interest reflected in attendances this year.


  • #1014
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,832 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    mountgomery burns wrote: »
    I think if the demand is there they should not be double headers, and the demand could well be there this year.

    Great to see the amount of interest reflected in attendances this year.

    Just have too wait and see and pray I'll be able too go. Don't want too miss u2 for a hurling match but don't want too miss the Waterford match either tough choice


  • #1015
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,034 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    redlead wrote: »
    Cork aren't being given enough credit for beating two title contenders already. I can't get my head around why Galway are being put on a pedestal over Cork. Galway haven't played a big team yet and were actually rubbish in the league the final aside.

    I imagine because Galway have been there or thereabouts for a few years now. Many of them have already played in 2 All-Ireland finals when they were younger. They look a mature side now. Not that it guarantees success.

    Cork have won two games after a few bad years. Well they might make it three today but I imagine the bookies feel Galway are a much more known commodity.


  • #1016
    Ompala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Ompala


    redlead wrote: »
    The only team I think will definitely be in the final is Tipp. They have the best starting 15 and best squad and are hitting form at the right time. There is nothing between the rest of the teams bar Wexford so you just couldn't pick. I'd probably be surprised to see Clare there I suppose.

    Cork aren't being given enough credit for beating two title contenders already. I can't get my head around why Galway are being put on a pedestal over Cork. Galway haven't played a big team yet and were actually rubbish in the league the final aside.

    Disagree, absolutely no definites that Tipp will be back in the final. They absolutely have the ability to do it but have not played with the same form they showed last year. Lot of hurling to do yet.

    True no one is giving Cork enough credit for winning 2 games no one thought they would, but Galway have been there for a few years now and have more experience and have shown the best form so far this year. Again though, lots of hurling to go. I find Cork and Galway play very similar styles.


  • #1017
    magentis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭magentis


    That Cork team is full of running,hunger and ability.I can see them going all the way,the intensity they have is superb.


  • #1018
    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    Cody will be very lucky to avoid a suspension for touching the linesman if the GAA are consistent with their disciplinary procedures.


  • #1019
    1984baby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭1984baby


    2forjoy wrote: »
    Cork and Galway final with Cork winning outright.

    I reckon it'll be Galway/Cork or Clare in the final.
    Waterford/Wexford and Tipp are not good enough to reach the final this year.


  • #1020
    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Advertisement
  • #1021
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,832 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Not going to U2 is the correct answer to any quandary.

    Big u2 fan and this is a once in a lifetime opportunity but this discussion is for the u2 forum

    Just my luck that they will fix Waterfords qf for the same day


Advertisement