Bull [CBS] [ Spoilers ]

JP Liz V1 · 19-06-2016 11:32PM #1

Mr E wrote: »

CBS has greenlit a slew of series for the 2016-2017 season.

In the comedy department, the network has ordered projects starring Matt LeBlanc and Joel McHale. As for dramas, CBS will be rebooting “Training Day,” “MacGyver,” plus has picked up a medical drama from Jason Katims and a new show starring “NCIS” star Michael Weatherly.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/cbs-training-day-macgyver-reboots-joel-mchale-matt-leblanc-michael-weatherly-shows-2016-2017-season-1201774004/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNc4AZRZxAs

I am very interested to see how Weatherly fares after NCIS in this mash of Lie to Me, Scandal and The Mentalist from Dr. Phil (based on his earlier job) and Paul Attanasio

Go Harvey Go · 20-06-2016 02:38PM

Not the first American drama series to be titled Bull, as TNT will testify...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83WxfO4QG4I

However, that's the only thing these two dramas have in common. Indeed, the title of TNT's Bull didn't refer to any of its characters - but to a bull market, being made before 9/11 and the subsequent downturn.

I do like *this* Bull's tagline, "No rules... no apologies... all Bull". And the trailer isn't bad, either.

But of course, having Weatherly, a good trailer and a good tagline, and being based on the earlier experiences of one of CBS's biggest personalities, doesn't guarantee huge ratings...

Taltos · 28-09-2016 09:13PM

So two episodes in. How are folk finding it?

Personally I hope it's just early day jitters but it's not doing anything for me. Find it too much of a mix of Lie to Me & Endgame but without any of the depth or great characters. Again it's early so who knows...

expectationlost · 28-09-2016 10:01PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNc4AZRZxAs

I am very interested to see how Weatherly fares after NCIS in this mash of Lie to Me, Scandal and The Mentalist from Dr. Phil (based on his earlier job) and Paul Attanasio

whats the show about ?

Taltos · 29-09-2016 04:42AM

Bull and his team set up mirror juries to fake try cases and prove the innocence of those who would otherwise make a settlement or be found guilty. Along the way he may even find out who the guilty party is but that's a by product and at least so far was a throwaway afterthought where done with no real exposition.

All he's missing is Lightman's micro expression facial maps... Oh and some good character interaction.

Clareman · 29-09-2016 03:20PM

I find it a dumbed down Lie to Me but not a bad way to kill 40 minutes.

Taltos · 29-09-2016 03:24PM

Yup. Really hoping that will change or they'll start to build on the characters soon as I don't think just the stories will hold me for long.

Clareman · 29-09-2016 08:40PM

It's very "by the numbers" so far, the eccentric boss that knows something but doesn't share it, the woman who keeps track of him, the gay 1 and the socially awkward one.

JP Liz V1 · 29-09-2016 08:54PM

Clareman wrote: »

It's very "by the numbers" so far, the eccentric boss that knows something but doesn't share it, the woman who keeps track of him, the gay 1 and the socially awkward one.

The cast isn't gelling for me yet

Agent Coulson · 29-09-2016 09:55PM

Very boring really by the numbers show and Weatherly is no Tim Roth when it comes to reading people.

Go Harvey Go · 30-09-2016 01:03AM

The first episode was watched by 15.5 million people - but nearly two million of them chose not to stick around for the second episode.

As I said in post #2, basing it on Dr Phil's earlier experiences and having Weatherly, a good trailer and a good tagline doesn't automatically mean that it'll be a roaring success. And so it's proving...

TheCockpitGuy · 30-09-2016 01:08AM

But you have the lead in from the massive NCIS.

NCIS LA and NOLA got that same lead in and they are holding their own.

True enough the Weatherly interested has slackened off a lot in the first week but probably will come down to 10-11M when it settles. The other NCIS's had the same kind of numbers.

The bigger question is how will NCIS go over the course of this season with the death of Gary Glasberg and how will that effect Bull.

Agent Coulson · 20-10-2016 04:04PM

This weeks episode was fun but they really need to get a season overview arc now instead of the generic by the numbers weekly episode.

JP Liz V1 · 20-10-2016 11:14PM

Yara Martinez from Jane the Virgin cast as Bull's ex - TV Line

Go Harvey Go · 22-10-2016 12:54PM

13 million viewers for the third episode (after a week's break for the vice presidential debate) and 12.3 million for the fourth.

And reviews remain mixed to negative.

Ah, well...

Taltos · 22-10-2016 01:01PM

Still waiting for it to take off. Has potential but is they don't hurry and start with the relationships or as above an arc this show is at risk of sinking. Not getting with Weatherly's character really although the latest episode did reveal a lot more about what drives him

Go Harvey Go · 24-11-2016 11:10AM

It's dipped below 11 million viewers now - down almost a third on the first episode.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tuesday-final-ratings-november-22-2016/

So can we safely say that this will be the only season?

Agent Coulson · 24-11-2016 11:13AM

It's an enjoyable show but without a season arc it's basically the same story every week.

Nody · 24-11-2016 11:37AM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It's an enjoyable show but without a season arc it's basically the same story every week.

This; I had high hopes and it was an interesting premise but there are literally no connection between the episodes and you could watch them out of order without losing anything.

Clareman · 24-11-2016 11:39AM

It's not a bad show, kind of like Lie to Me but the lack of a overarching story line is killing it, it just goes from case to case now at this stage.

JP Liz V1 · 30-11-2016 04:04PM

It starts on FOX UK on Friday January 13th at 10pm

Nody · 04-01-2017 08:57AM

And another episode which could be played anywhere in the playlist without feeling out of place (like the previous nine).

I think I've figured out what annoys me with the show beyond the lack of any type of meta plot and that's the perfect people. Bull and his team are always 110% correct, no character flaws, no real prejudices, never make a mistake and always the perfect people with the perfect opinion getting to the right answer catching the bad guys. Compare this to Elementary and the heroin addiction, wrong assumptions or Conviction with the rebelling against her mother, ex police who wants to believe police don't do things wrong, prosecutor who believes the evidence etc. and it's a clear difference in how the stories play out.

Agent Coulson · 04-01-2017 02:40PM

Nody wrote: »

And another episode which could be played anywhere in the playlist without feeling out of place (like the previous nine).

I think I've figured out what annoys me with the show beyond the lack of any type of meta plot and that's the perfect people. Bull and his team are always 110% correct, no character flaws, no real prejudices, never make a mistake and always the perfect people with the perfect opinion getting to the right answer catching the bad guys. Compare this to Elementary and the heroin addiction, wrong assumptions or Conviction with the rebelling against her mother, ex police who wants to believe police don't do things wrong, prosecutor who believes the evidence etc. and it's a clear difference in how the stories play out.

Bull is based on Dr Phil and sums up how he sees himself to a tee I thinking so It's no wonder the show is following suit.

Go Harvey Go · 07-01-2017 08:36PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

It starts on FOX UK on Friday January 13th at 10pm

And it's on UTV Ireland Be3 from Thursday 12th.

Back in America, viewing figures appear to have stabilised at around the 11-and-a-half million mark, as the season nears its midpoint. Plus, Weatherly believes that the show still has plenty to offer:

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/bull-michael-weatherly-future-cbs-series/

Agent Coulson · 25-01-2017 05:10PM

Dr Phil wrote last nights episode and I think say more about how he sees himself more than anything else.

Still nothing but story of the week episodes and pretty much the same story each week.

Not sure why I have stuck with it being honest and will probably drop it soon enough.

Taltos · 26-01-2017 12:06AM

Afraid I've already dropped this one. Pity as I had hopes originally but it just never seemed to go anywhere. Might give it a shot again in a few months but somehow doubt it. Feel the name was prophetic.

Nody · 26-01-2017 11:06AM

Taltos wrote: »

Afraid I've already dropped this one. Pity as I had hopes originally but it just never seemed to go anywhere. Might give it a shot again in a few months but somehow doubt it. Feel the name was prophetic.

12 episodes in and there is still no meta plot nor reason to watch them in any specific order. I'll probably finish season 1 as I'm 12 episodes in but not expecting to bother with season 2.

Nody · 15-02-2017 09:34AM

Episode 14 and we might have the first story arch going beyond 1 episode...

Agent Coulson · 23-03-2017 08:57PM

Renewed for a second season.

Eliza Dushku joins the cast for a 3 episode arc at the end of season 1 and may become a series regular in season 2.

Agent Coulson · 10-05-2017 01:56PM

Benny's case is really interesting just a pity it took the whole season standalone episodes before getting to this point.

Also Eliza Dushku can't act to save her life the wrong actress cast for that character.

Sierra 117 · 08-07-2017 09:56PM

I've watched up to episode 12 so far. I find it's an easy show to watch, and that's not a compliment. There's no tension, no struggle. Bull and his team either know everything or are able to easily find out what they need to know. Maybe it will improve in the second half but I expected the show to have more to offer at this point.

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