Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

wonderfullife · 05-07-2017 07:18PM

I don't see how that poster is accurate because Lockhart was saying he'll still be around Maynooth next week. It's London first.

Spudman_20000 · 05-07-2017 10:39PM

I can't tell if this is utter belief from Kavanagh, or utter naivety:

It must be a hell of a game plan they have.

I really hope Conor shocks the world, but I think team SBG are out of their depth on this one.

Gamebred · 05-07-2017 10:42PM

Come monday after it he'll be wheeling out the ''Look we win or we learn, we took a shot for the stars took on the best boxer ever nobody has ever tried that from mma, we'll learn and go again in mma'' meanwhile they will spend a few months counting their money they made from the idiot public wanting to see the fight.

Call Me Jimmy · 05-07-2017 11:38PM

Very interesting here going back and analysing Mayweather v BigShow. I've noticed that when BigShow lunges in Mayweather ducks and moves the same every time. Also BigShow throwing punches a couple of feet above Mayweathers head opened himself up to multiple body shots.

Don't think Mcgregor should turn away from Mayweather either. Bigshow did that and was punished with a piggybacking.

Lukker- · 05-07-2017 11:45PM

Always enjoy JK's interviews.

It's a shame MacLife Andrew McGahon doesn't do more interviews though.

cloudatlas · 06-07-2017 12:56AM

Lukker- wrote: »

Always enjoy JK's interviews.

It's a shame MacLife Andrew McGahon doesn't do more interviews though.

He needs to be interviewing Roddy though by the sounds of things J.K has little to do with it.

Lukker- · 06-07-2017 09:33AM

cloudatlas wrote: »

He needs to be interviewing Roddy though by the sounds of things J.K has little to do with it.

Seems normal to me. JK puts things together rather than working on the little things. I'm sure we'll get a few Roddy interviews and vlogs too.

06-07-2017 02:08PM

cloudatlas wrote: »

He needs to be interviewing Roddy though by the sounds of things J.K has little to do with it.

I think Conor is the mastermind of his own camps and everybody else is hired help.

No disrespect to John or Owen but McGregor's boxing knowledge, background and ability is on another level to both guys.

John is a very good jiujitsu coach but he has never struck me as knowledgeable in the striking area. He has never 'produced' a good striker - actually I think most of SBG are very poor in that area - whereas he definitely has produced some very good grapplers.

bmcc10 · 06-07-2017 02:12PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think Conor is the mastermind of his own camps and everybody else is hired help.

No disrespect to John or Owen but McGregor's boxing knowledge, background and ability is on another level to both guys.

John is a very good jiujitsu coach but he has never struck me as knowledgeable in the striking area. He has never 'produced' a good striker - actually I think most of SBG are very poor in that area - whereas he definitely has produced some very good grapplers.

Roddy is a fantastic striking coach.

06-07-2017 02:18PM

bmcc10 wrote: »

Roddy is a fantastic striking coach.

I just don't see it in the young guys coming out of SBG. They all have poor striking.

What is Roddy's background? Did he not learn striking from VHS tapes etc?

If it was a good striking gym then you would think each generation would get better. But Gunnie and Conor are the only two who can strike worth a damn...they both cut their teeth elsewhere.

bmcc10 · 06-07-2017 02:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I just don't see it in the young guys coming out of SBG. They all have poor striking.

What is Roddy's background? Did he not learn striking from VHS tapes etc?

If it was a good striking gym then you would think each generation would get better. But Gunnie and Conor are the only two who can strike worth a damn...they both cut their teeth elsewhere.

Obviously if there joining with a background in striking there gonna better strikers, Gallagher is primarily a grappler because he's better at grappling that doesn't mean there not working on his striking which has improved greatly, There's more too it that makes a good coach he's very knowledgeable his advice during fights is brilliant in picking his shots, Take Cowley for example obviously a good striker doesn't make JK a bad bjj coach because he's not a brilliant grappler yet does it?

Outlaw Pete · 06-07-2017 02:44PM

Surely Paulie will be taking over when they get stateside.

I doubt 'sparring partner' alone will be all he's used for.

Lukker- · 06-07-2017 02:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I just don't see it in the young guys coming out of SBG. They all have poor striking.

What is Roddy's background? Did he not learn striking from VHS tapes etc?

Roddy was one of the top guys on the regional circuit which was frankly underrated. Guys didn't have the same opportunities back than as they do now. I suggest you watch some of his fights, or even the mini documentary on him to see his pedigree. SBG have plenty of good strikers coming through, at the end of the day, he's only one man and can only give so much time to everyone.

billybonkers · 06-07-2017 03:07PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Roddy was one of the top guys on the regional circuit which was frankly underrated. Guys didn't have the same opportunities back than as they do now. I suggest you watch some of his fights, or even the mini documentary on him to see his pedigree. SBG have plenty of good strikers coming through, at the end of the day, he's only one man and can only give so much time to everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmjTwYW2IDw

That knee and those body shots!

06-07-2017 04:28PM

Lukker- wrote: »

Roddy was one of the top guys on the regional circuit which was frankly underrated. Guys didn't have the same opportunities back than as they do now. I suggest you watch some of his fights, or even the mini documentary on him to see his pedigree. SBG have plenty of good strikers coming through, at the end of the day, he's only one man and can only give so much time to everyone.

I don't want to go back and forth too much on Owen because he seems like a very good bloke.

My feeling is just that it's ludicrous to think that Kavanagh, Roddy or anyone else from SBG can provide something technically beneficial to this camp.

They can support Conor logistically - holding pads, arranging sparring schedules etc - but when you're talking about studying footage, finding holes, devising strategy...they are totally unqualified. They have only the most basic understanding of boxing.

Imagine if Floyd was going to grapple Conor and he brought in his brother or Mayweather Sr to coach him...we would rightly ridicule it.

It was mentioned above that Malignaggi might take on more of a coaching role, and I really hope that's the case.

Lukker- · 06-07-2017 04:31PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't want to go back and forth too much on Owen because he seems like a very good bloke.

My feeling is just that it's ludicrous to think that Kavanagh, Roddy or anyone else from SBG can provide something technically beneficial to this camp.

They can support Conor logistically - holding pads, arranging sparring schedules etc - but when you're talking about studying footage, finding holes, devising strategy...they are totally unqualified. They have only the most basic understanding of boxing.

Imagine if Floyd was going to grapple Conor and he brought in his brother or Mayweather Sr to coach him...we would rightly ridicule it.

It was mentioned above that Malignaggi might take on more of a coaching role, and I really hope that's the case.

Fair enough, you don't rate him as a boxing coach, but your previous post seemed to be more having a go at his MMA striking credentials.

bmcc10 · 06-07-2017 04:32PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't want to go back and forth too much on Owen because he seems like a very good bloke.

My feeling is just that it's ludicrous to think that Kavanagh, Roddy or anyone else from SBG can provide something technically beneficial to this camp.

They can support Conor logistically - holding pads, arranging sparring schedules etc - but when you're talking about studying footage, finding holes, devising strategy...they are totally unqualified. They have only the most basic understanding of boxing.

Imagine if Floyd was going to grapple Conor and he brought in his brother or Mayweather Sr to coach him...we would rightly ridicule it.

It was mentioned above that Malignaggi might take on more of a coaching role, and I really hope that's the case.

You said you think conors the mastermind in his own camps, This is his first boxing camp.

Gamebred · 06-07-2017 04:42PM

If Manny Stewart came back from the dead he wouldnt be able help Conor in that time frame so makes no odds whose holding pads Floyd is taking him to school and their best off saving money paying coaches.

Frank Bullitt · 06-07-2017 04:50PM

Gamebred wrote: »

If Manny Stewart came back from the dead he wouldnt be able help Conor in that time frame so makes no odds whose holding pads Floyd is taking him to school and their best off saving money paying coaches.

Didn't Freddie Roach say it would take him 2 years to get ready for boxing, and 5 years to get ready for Floyd?

Gamebred · 06-07-2017 04:52PM

Gintonious wrote: »

Didn't Freddie Roach say it would take him 2 years to get ready for boxing, and 5 years to get ready for Floyd?

He couldnt get one of the best ever in Manny to land a glove on him, would need a miracle worker not a boxing coach to get him good enough to beat the best defensive boxer ever.

Lukker- · 06-07-2017 04:55PM

Gamebred wrote: »

He couldnt get one of the best ever in Manny to land a glove on him, would need a miracle worker not a boxing coach to get him good enough to beat the best defensive boxer ever.

Manny was done at that stage and went into the fight unable to load up because of a shoulder injury.

Who knows how the fight would have gone with both men in their prime.

wonderfullife · 06-07-2017 05:34PM

It's worth pointing out Conor has a wealth of good boxers to lean on for advice, and that's just people he's friends with. You see Gerry Byrne gloving him up every day in training, well his brother Dean was pretty talented and trained for years under Freddie Roach. Conor would also be close enough with Andre Berto, Jamie Kavanagh, Mick Conlan, Jason Quigley etc.

He won't be short on actual friends he can whatsapp and talk about boxing with.

Anyway let's all remember, if Crumlin Boxing Club can teach Daniel Day-Lewis to do this, then Conor will do grand with advice originating there :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1Mxsst2IY

hewhoscares · 06-07-2017 05:40PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's worth pointing out Conor has a wealth of good boxers to lean on for advice, and that's just people he's friends with. You see Gerry Byrne gloving him up every day in training, well his brother Dean was pretty talented and trained for years under Freddie Roach. Conor would also be close enough with Andre Berto, Jamie Kavanagh, Mick Conlan, Jason Quigley etc.

He won't be short on actual friends he can whatsapp and talk about boxing with.

Anyway let's all remember, if Crumlin Boxing Club can teach Daniel Day-Lewis to do this, then Conor will do grand with advice originating there :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1Mxsst2IY

a gameplan to beat Mayweather over whatsapp?

D.Q · 06-07-2017 05:41PM

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's worth pointing out Conor has a wealth of good boxers to lean on for advice, and that's just people he's friends with. You see Gerry Byrne gloving him up every day in training, well his brother Dean was pretty talented and trained for years under Freddie Roach. Conor would also be close enough with Andre Berto, Jamie Kavanagh, Mick Conlan, Jason Quigley etc.

He won't be short on actual friends he can whatsapp and talk about boxing with.

Anyway let's all remember, if Crumlin Boxing Club can teach Daniel Day-Lewis to do this, then Conor will do grand with advice originating there :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1Mxsst2IY

Generally enjoy reading your posts mate but jesus christ.

wonderfullife · 06-07-2017 05:45PM

D.Q wrote: »

Generally enjoy reading your posts mate but jesus christ.

Did the Pacman smiley not give away it was a joke

Conor is up against it against a world-class competitor but we should all be encouraged how seriously he's taking it. He has actual ref's in every sparring session and video analysis from multiple angles. 4 sparring partners of a certain standard to try out gameplans and bringing in 6 better sparring partners stateside.

He's doing all he can. I just don't think people should be bashing John and Owen....they're doing the best camp they can and sparing no expenses.

Even Ido is involved

everlast75 · 06-07-2017 05:46PM

Anybody Conor brings in should not be on a fixed fee. They should have a clause which says if he wins they get an absolutely ridiculous amount of money. I mean use ALL of the proceeds of the fight - the entire amount as an incentive. Heavens knows if he wins he will get money elsewhere.

I'm not saying they won't be getting a good wage or be keen for him to win... I just mean that he should incentivise the **** out of them.

Outlaw Pete · 06-07-2017 06:01PM

With Conor's connections, celebrity (and bank balance) I would say we have yet to hear the most high profile boxer / coach named who will be part of McGregor's camp when he his stateside. I'm sure he has been inundated with offers from some household names. Even Eubank came out and said he knew how McGregor could beat Mayweather but conveniently he is only willing to tell him face to face.

Of all the fighters or boxing coaches that it would be reasonably possible for him to acquire the services of..... who would you all like to see named as being part of McGregor's camp in the lead up to the fight?

Remember now, Mickey Goldmill is dead.

Sweet Science · 06-07-2017 07:31PM

I know how conor can win too . He cracks Floyd on the chin and knocks him out . Or else he schools him and wins a points decision

Don't mind Eubank hire me

Everyone knows how someone can win . Doing it is the issue

Whelo79 · 06-07-2017 07:36PM

Sweet Science wrote: »

I know how conor can win too . He cracks Floyd on the chin and knocks him out . Or else he schools him and wins a points decision

Don't mind Eubank hire me

Everyone knows how someone can win . Doing it is the issue

You've just given away tour plan for free, why would anyone hire you now!!

Outlaw Pete · 06-07-2017 07:53PM

Sweet Science wrote: »

Don't mind Eubank...

Nobody does.... hence the sarcasm

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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