Mayo GAA Discussion Part 2

km79 · 02-07-2017 11:13AM

It's time our own lads in the media started highlighting the treatment AOS gets from the opposition.........always looking for a reaction but he never gives it to them.......... absolutely no protection from Deegan yday either.
If we draw Donegal it should be all we talk about until the game ........

blinding · 02-07-2017 11:16AM

km79 wrote: »

It's time our own lads in the media started highlighting the treatment gets from the opposition.........always looking for a reaction but he never gives it to them.......... absolutely no protection from Deegan yday either.
If we draw Donegal it should be all we talk about until the game ........

Are you talking about Aiden O'Shea ?

seligehgit · 02-07-2017 11:16AM

km79 wrote: »

It's time our own lads in the media started highlighting the treatment gets from the opposition.........always looking for a reaction but he never gives it to them.......... absolutely no protection from Deegan yday either.
If we draw Donegal it should be all we talk about until the game ........

I presume you're talking about Aidan?;)
I agree like many other players he gets insufficient protection and all credit to him never reacts.He was superb yesterday.

jasonroche123 · 02-07-2017 11:26AM

Not our best peformance, Looking at the next day we must avoid Ballybofey - As regards our forward divison, O Connor should start next day ahead of Boland who to me is a nice footballer but just not good enough and Loftus in instead of moran, Doherty won't be afr off either.

We seem to lack a plan which is worrying - If Derry were disciplined in tackle we were in trouble as most of our scores arose from frees

Bunny Colvin · 02-07-2017 11:28AM

Aidan was great yesterday. Attitude, work rate,desire all there and was good on the ball. Need him playing out of his skin if we want to be in Croke Park come August.

km79 · 02-07-2017 11:38AM

One lastpoint that probably got last amidst yday madness
Kevin mcl should not be on a single free again
I just don't understand it. It affects him too every time he missed one early he missed easy shots for the rest of the game

TCDStudent1 · 02-07-2017 11:45AM

km79 wrote: »

One lastpoint that probably got last amidst yday madness
Kevin mcl should not be on a single free again
I just don't understand it. It affects him too every time he missed one early he missed easy shots for the rest of the game

I'd imagine he's finished with frees for this year.

Has cillian O'Connor ever kicked frees with his left? I don't recall him ever doing it for Mayo, but maybe he has at club level?

yop · 02-07-2017 03:01PM

Fully agree, our pundits need to go into full "Dublin whinge" around the treatment that AOS gets, only way to do it. It worked against Keegan last year and now the blessed Connolly. Keep beating the drum and they can't ignore it.

Windy if your serious with your posts then you need to have a chat with yourself, otherwise if thats the level you live to then I'm afraid.

PressRun · 02-07-2017 03:09PM

Very strange game. Basic skills lacking with both teams and completely awful shooting tbh, but still highly entertaining. Honestly, I think the main reason we won was because of our superior fitness in extra time. Derry were out on their feet by then and we were able to capitalize on that. For long periods of normal time Mayo seemed to be doing their level best to throw it away and not to keep reiterating the point, but the shooting was utterly dreadful.

AOS had a big game, Cillian was trying to make things happen too but was probably lacking in a bit of luck, hitting the posts a couple of times.

Donal Vaughan was ineffective and Ger Cafferky hasn't gotten back into the swing of things really yet.

Kevin McLoughlin should be kept well away from frees. He doesn't even look like he wants to take them. The one he missed affected his confidence for the rest of the match.

Conor Loftus deserves a shot at starting the next day. His goal was the ballsy move we needed to get back in the game. His movement is good.

We were cut open way too easy at times, Derry players just strolling through the middle with no one putting a glove on them. Why? And are we really fully abandoning the sweeper system with Kevin McLoughlin? He helped our defense issues.

There are a lot of problems with the forwards and the fullback position has to be of concern. We got away with it yesterday and our fitness and bench are really what got us through. An awful lot of improving to do and still some injury concerns. Not sure I'd fancy a trip to Donegal next weekend tbh.

SomethingElse · 02-07-2017 03:14PM

Just a sore knock to the shin for Keegan apparently, so he's not a long term doubt. Similarly, I hope to recover by next weekend!

I spent much of the second half thinking back over the good days this team has given us, both in McHale Park and beyond. From that "novelty" provincial final against London, the win against Cork, running in goals for fun against Galway, drawing with the Dubs at the death and getting a measure of revenge against the reigning champions from Donegal. It all flashed before my eyes. But yesterday was not meant to be. Yesterday was not the day the dream ended. We live to fight on for at least another day.

The positives:

Aidan O'Shea - looks back to his best
Kickouts - we retained a lot of possession from our own ball, and really pressed Derry
Putting their hands up - some strong showings from our subs, perhaps most tellingly Conor and Jason.

The negatives:

Performance in normal time - we were toothless in ideas going forward. The half forward line failed to impact much, and we failed to convert a large number of scoring opportunities.
Extra-time - how great a toll this will have taken on the players physically remains to be seen.
Andy Moran - Unfortunately time is catching up, and calls for him him to revert to role of impact sub appear to be justified.

cocoman · 02-07-2017 03:18PM

Did anyone notice there was no announcer at McHale yesterday? No announcement of subs, injury time, etc. Was he on a day off ?

yop · 02-07-2017 03:21PM

cocoman wrote: »

Did anyone notice there was no announcer at McHale yesterday? No announcement of subs, injury time, etc. Was he on a day off ?

the left hand side of the stand was out of PA coverage, must have been broke. It seems the right hand side worked!

PressRun · 02-07-2017 03:28PM

And a word for Paddy Durcan - very stupid from him. We don't need any more absentees for any reason. If Keegan doesn't play next weekend, which he very well might not, we'll be short two of our best half backs. Not ideal if we end up going to Donegal.

Stoner · 02-07-2017 03:33PM

seligehgit wrote:

TBH I have never given any countenance to this opinion that Aidan should be used as an impact substitute.

To be fair some have pushed that agenda, However AOS was my MOTM yesterday.

However one of the main reasons people suggest impact sub was because he starts games better than he finishes. In recognising that modern teams finish with their best team, the idea was that AOS struggles to keep the energy levels up against the top 5.

So if we look at that Derry team, to say AOS has it in the tank to finish strongly against say Kerry or Dublin on the basis that he lasted through extra time against a Derry team that was bunched with 15 minutes to go and had lost a starting midfielder so early would be slightly naive IMO.

seligehgit · 02-07-2017 03:40PM

Stoner wrote: »

To be fair some have pushed that agenda, However AOS was my MOTM yesterday.

However one of the main reasons people suggest impact sub was because he starts games better than he finishes. In recognising that modern teams finish with their best team, the idea was that AOS struggles to keep the energy levels up against the top 5.

So if we look at that Derry team, to say AOS has it in the tank to finish strongly against say Kerry or Dublin on the basis that he lasted through extra time against a Derry team that was bunched with 15 minutes to go and had lost a starting midfielder so early would be slightly naive IMO.

Yip totally get that train of thought but in the end there's no way we can afford not to start Aidan O Shea.

PressRun · 02-07-2017 03:42PM

I'd agree with you Stoner. Aidan was immense yesterday and showed great leadership. It's the best performance I've seen from him in a while.
But to suggest that his performance against a gassed Derry team is indicative of what he could do against a team with the fitness of Dublin is not a realistic comparison. Aidan is a great player with loads of potential, but he won't have it as easy as he did yesterday against teams with stronger midfields.
I do think however that midfield is his best position, and I've long said so. It's where he looks most comfortable.

Shurimgreat · 02-07-2017 03:47PM

PressRun wrote: »

I'd agree with you Stoner. Aidan was immense yesterday and showed great leadership. It's the best performance I've seen from him in a while.
But to suggest that his performance against a gassed Derry team is indicative of what he could do against a team with the fitness of Dublin is not a realistic comparison. Aidan is a great player with loads of potential, but he won't have it as easy as he did yesterday against teams with stronger midfields.
I do think however that midfield is his best position, and I've long said so. It's where he looks most comfortable.

Agreed. You can't judge players against lower division opposition. Unfortunately for O'Shea in recent years his performances and influence diminish the further into the championship he goes to the point he's often a bystander come AI final or semi-finals.

I'd nearly prefer if he was sh*te in the early rounds and brilliant at the business end of the championship.

Having said that, he's not the only one. There are a couple of Mayo players who are usually outstanding at this time of year, make themselves almost undroppable and in the really big games are just taking up space.

Flange/Flanders · 02-07-2017 03:50PM

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

look you are right , no player sets out to do that , it all happened in a moment , the derry player in qustion will surly be embarresed when he sees it , but whats the point in hanging him out to dry on the sunday game or in the media ,

all that crap is ridiculous if mayo people are serious about wining an all ireland , an isolated incident that happened yesterday should hardly be a problem ,

i seriously cant get over the reaction to this , things like this happen every week in gaa

"It's a tough game", "It all happened in a moment", "Things like this happen every week in gaa".

None of which makes it in anyway acceptable. Contact sports are all played with a level of aggression that always leaves the potential for incidents. However, everyone who's playing contact sports knows that there's a line. Striking a man in the testicles crosses the line (and Higgin's was rightly banned for this), contact with the eyes crosses the line. No amount of aggression involved is an excuse for a discusting act like this. I've played football and currently play hurling and no matter how revved up I've been (and i've been very revved up at times), I'd never make intentional contact with someones eyes.

QuiteInterestin · 02-07-2017 04:18PM

yop wrote: »

the left hand side of the stand was out of PA coverage, must have been broke. It seems the right hand side worked!

I was on the left hand side of the stand, there were definitely some people that left not realising that it was going to extra time with no PA system to inform them otherwise

Western Pomise · 02-07-2017 04:24PM

Thought that Higgins was badly missed yday,When the game opened up our kick passing was good which was great to see.

padd b1975 · 02-07-2017 04:53PM

yop wrote: »

the left hand side of the stand was out of PA coverage, must have been broke. It seems the right hand side worked!

That is so "Hyde Park".

pimpmyhat · 02-07-2017 05:33PM

Any idea who mayo may meet in the next round?

seligehgit · 02-07-2017 05:36PM

pimpmyhat wrote: »

Any idea who mayo may meet in the next round?

Meath,Donegal or Clare.

Ladies are getting a bit of a trimming.

Mayo 1-5
Galway 3-10

20 minutes left.

seligehgit · 02-07-2017 06:05PM

Full Time

Mayo 1-8
Galway 3-12

Shurimgreat · 02-07-2017 08:09PM

seligehgit wrote: »

Meath,Donegal or Clare.

Ladies are getting a bit of a trimming.

Mayo 1-5
Galway 3-10

20 minutes left.

I think any of those teams could do a number on mayo based on what we saw in the derry game. There needs to be dramatic changes in the forward line.
We have too many workhorse "forwards" and not enough who can put the ball over the bar. At most we need one forward whose main role is to link the play yet we seem to have 3 or 4 who only want to go sideways or back and have no interest in kicking points. As long as this continues we won't go far in the championship.

mayo.mick · 02-07-2017 08:52PM

:D:D

https://twitter.com/D9BMayo/status/881600388918587392

yop · 02-07-2017 10:16PM

mayo.mick wrote: »

:D:D

https://twitter.com/D9BMayo/status/881600388918587392

That will be interesting. That will mean Clare off to Donegal?

squiredanaher · 02-07-2017 11:48PM

Not normally known as a great pitch, but Thought it looked in fantastic condition on tv., anyone at the game think the same?

PARlance · 03-07-2017 12:03AM

squiredanaher wrote: »

Not normally known as a great pitch, but Thought it looked in fantastic condition on tv., anyone at the game think the same?

Pitch was in great condition, I spent 65 mins with my head in my hands staring down at it.

PARlance · 03-07-2017 12:07AM

Meath, Donegal, Clare in that order is my preference. I just think that Clare are exactly the kind of team that could cause us problems. They're the form team of that trio and could catch us a bit flat. We'll raise our game vs the other two.

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