Marvel’s ‘Inhumans’ TV Series

Foxtrol wrote: »

But why would anyone think that wasn’t going to be the case?

Because the reason we were talking about it at all was someone asking if they'd show up in a film. We were explaining why the likely answer is no.

Foxtrol wrote: »

But you linked the potential that they wont show up in a film or be mentioned in advance to a sign that Marvel is going against a claim of connectivity, which you completely took out of context.

Given the 2 seasons or so that AoS has given background to Inhumans I think it shows clearly that it fits in the general MCU. I’m sure the narrative will explain if/why it wouldn’t be on say the Avengers’ radar, even if it doesn’t specifically call it out.

How is what I said out of context? I gave specific examples of where the connectedness falls apart and then very specifically said it will probably show up in AoS, effectively the same thing you said.

They can give all the narrative reasons they want on AoS for why there's no Avengers aren't involved, it doesn't change the fact they almost certainly won't be because of larger, probably political issues that are beginning to haunt the MCU.

They might pay out for a Sam Jackson cameo or something like SHIELD used to do. That'd be nice

Foxtrol wrote: »

You took the #ItsAllConnected out of context. The context of it isn’t that every narrative or even each show is going to be directly connected to each other so it is ‘kinda not true anymore’ because it was never true.

The examples you provided made less sense than the direction that Marvel went and would just be ramming in crossover for the sake of crossover. Your plan to add Daredevil to Civil War falls into this as in the MCU Daredevil is extremely underpowered when compared to the rest of the Avengers (aside from Clint and Blackwidow who the other Avengers were close friends with so wouldn’t want to intentionally hurt them) so he would have gotten his ass handed to him within seconds.

I much prefer how the big events that occur in the movies shape the television shows (eg Hydra taking over SHIELD or the political climate around the Skovia Accord) than have Luke Cage name drop Thor a few times.

Internal politics or not, once the narrative makes sense and the shows/movies fit into the rules/context of the universe I don’t think they should force crossovers unless they work.

I think you're missing my point. Internal politics HAVE more than likely have changed the likelihood of easy crossovers happening from Civil War on. In theory yeah, they could. In reality..?

The MCU is fractured in a way it did not use to be. Feige and Perlmutter hate each other, and the Inhumans were something he always forced on Feige. The Inhumans film was written off as soon as Feige got the creative control.

Regardless of any potential narrative reason to do so, it is likely there will be absolutely zero reference in the films because of this fracture. Up til Civil War, Perlmutter had the final say, so if he wanted the Inhumans pushed everywhere they would be. So, yes, sadly, the world is not as connected as it was. There is 2 camps in the MCU where there used to be one. Three, if you include Netflix (although I think it's probably more filming conflicts between two distinct teams rather than a deliberate blanking of the netflix characters). The level of inclusion in the films is likely to be far less than AoS gets (and I agree it manages that well, although it''s had its poor moments as a series).

Does this make for worse content? Probably not, it's not like the MCU was crap with Perlmutter in charge, he put the right people in the right place. Does it mean the status quo has changed? In all probability.

What I want to know is why no one is going nuts about the deliberate use of "it's all connected" in Logan.